I didn't know googi could epic phail, weaponmagic is the reason people prep a weapon gov...it most certainly does damage. Not only that, weaponmagic can't be resisted so to say a thunder sword is slightly better than a talefung is lulz

This is news to me, but makes me wonder why anybody would be interested in Leuc blessings, as they clearly are, since if this is the case it would mean Leucetious is obsolete.

I use IFS and Leut blessings.

Aside from Sigil, there's not many items with lightning resistance (There's a few wands too), and the only people who really bless high gov are inactive/too lazy to bless

Yeah, that's what I had believed, but what they're saying is that the "weaponmagic" attacktype has no items that resist it, which would make all other non-status attacktypes inferior.

(By the way, I've had it written on my site that weaponmagic only let you deal more damage to giant monsters like T-Rex, etc. and nobody ever said anything to me about it.)

Also, even though I used a bad example, what I said about rarity and usefulness not being directly proportional is still true. Flaming Sword is better than Ice Flaming Sword, which is rarer, since fire is a better attacktype than ice with half the server following Bile. And even if ice were better, it would just mean that Ice Dagger is better than the rarer Inferno Dagger.

There are a lot more items with high fire resist, though. With Brigid's shield on and a PMoP, I get close to 60 fire resist without breaking a sweat. Add a level 107 fire protect scroll on top of that and it gets to be around 75. I can't usually get anywhere near that with cold because there are no items with a substantial amount of cold resist on them. From my observations, here's what the server looks like overall...


Most common high resistances:

1. Physical (It's on pretty much all armor.)
2. Fire (PMoP, Govannon, Brigid's Shield, Capes, Fire Resist Spell, Demon Stone, Demon Shield)
3. Magic (Elronds, RDA / BDA, Fragments, Adamant Rings, Magic Resist Spell, Balor)
4. Cold (Bile, Ogma, Ice Bracers, Ice Shield, Cold Resist Spell, Forgotten Frost, Immortal Frost)
5. Lightning (Gale, Chainmail of Electricity, Brigid's Shield, Lightning Resist Spell, Leucetious)
6. Poison (Large Pirate Belt, Glok Belt, Poison Resist Spell, Bile)
7. Drain (Bile, Brigid)
8. Death (Bile, Brigid)
9. Life Stealing (Bile, Brigid)
10. Fear (Bile, Diancecht, Balor)
11. Confusion (Aengus, Diancecht)
12. Blinding (Diancecht)
13. Depletion (Brigid)
14. Paralyzation (Rings)
15. Slow (Rings)


(Near the end, it kind of gets hard to determine which ones are used the least.)

Bile resists cold too. With Bile Holy Posession + Protection from Cold, you can get pretty high cold resist before you even put on any equipment.

But like I said, it doesn't matter either way.

Thanks for the correction. I'll re-rank cold on my list, too.
What doesn't matter? Resists? Resists certainly matter. You're right about usefulness not being tied to rarity, but usefulness and resists, bonuses, and so forth definitely go hand-in-hand.

I remember talking to you about the whole weaponmagic situation, but I just accepted what you said as truth because you're Googi :frown:

I want the real Kaimetsu back! :cry:


Edit: Also, Drae, couldn't your list have been better sorted? It seemed like magic resistance is only from really rare expensive items, where as some resistances you listed are on easier-to-acquire items. I 'm not sure though, so do correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, I think that's what's most important- how difficult it is to get these items.

Is that so? ;)

Come on, we both know you were inactive there for abit butthead:asleep:

There is magic resist on a lot of smaller items too, like Arcane Shield, Ring of Magic, etc. I was just listing off the items that usually give you more points for your resistances.

It doesn't matter on things like that, because everyone who actually pks wear RoWs and no one wears Arcane Shields.

I doubt everyone who pk's wears rows.
And they still matter, because in the end, they are still obtainable items that help resist certain elements.

They're obtainable, but they're hardly used. Just because they exist doesn't mean they need to be accounted for, especially if no one uses it.