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Knight 11-27-2007 12:47 AM

Some people need to learn what exactly "harassment" is. I get spammed, followed, and commented on by one person and they say it isn't harassment. Yet I tell an ET that they eat babies because they told me to "f off" in game that is harassment and nothing happens to them?

UnknownMasterMind 11-27-2007 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1360589)
Some people need to learn what exactly "harassment" is. I get spammed, followed, and commented on by one person and they say it isn't harassment. Yet I tell an ET that they eat babies because they told me to "f off" in game that is harassment and nothing happens to them?

Which ET is using this kinda of language to a player? Or are you being sarcastic if not, please either post it or forum PM, and I will bring it up in discussion, or forum pm it directly to *anubis_wing(Account, he is ET Chief currently).

Also, you did bring up a good point, they do need to know what harassment is, (The link is to the original post)

Verbal Abuse
This, naturally, is not tolerated. If you start insulting someone over teamchat, PMs, whatever, then expect a warning. If you continue to disrupt another player or staff member you will be locked. No unsticking, no kicking. If you do not take note of your first warning you will be locked and STAY locked for the entire hour. Any apologies/begging after the locking will be disregarded.

Some guideline examples of the abuse that count as offenses are the following:

* Swearing excessively at an individual
* Making any amount of sexual remarks towards an individual
* Bashing the management via text/teamchat, mass messages, nicknames or any other method
* Making racist/prejudice remarks against others

VergilP2P 11-27-2007 05:45 AM

I Would Be Fine With Ets Having This As Long As It Does Not Get Abused

Frieza 11-27-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1360589)
Some people need to learn what exactly "harassment" is. I get spammed, followed, and commented on by one person and they say it isn't harassment. Yet I tell an ET that they eat babies because they told me to "f off" in game that is harassment and nothing happens to them?

i dont remeber the ET using obscene languge and i as there O_o, besides, you called him Mr. Bean.

seanthien 11-27-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VergilP2P (Post 1360644)
I Would Be Fine With Ets Having This As Long As It Does Not Get Abused

1.That's you.
2.Et's would use it versus their friends for playful fun. Which realy would abuse, so there's no stopping it.:l

Dante55555 11-28-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1360741)
1.That's you.
2.Et's would use it versus their friends for playful fun. Which realy would abuse, so there's no stopping it.:l

*cough*

Frieza 11-28-2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1360741)
1.That's you.
2.Et's would use it versus seanfor playful fun. Which realy would abuse, so there's no stopping it.:l

i agree

seanthien 11-28-2007 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1361025)
*cough*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frieza (Post 1361038)
i agree

-Looks at both account names-

-Thinks of yesterday-

-COUGH COUGH-

Dante_P2P 11-29-2007 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1361081)
-Looks at both account names-

-Thinks of yesterday-

-COUGH COUGH-

Tell me what happened yesterday!

Knight 11-29-2007 06:45 AM

I never called Ravenblade Mr. Bean, I have a witness that even agrees that you just said that to him to get him pissed at me. Also the cursing occurred before, I told Dante right after it happened.


Knight: Host
*Ravenblade flys off*
*Friezas comes back from AFK*
Frieza: I am not a PA
Knight: I wasn't talking to you
Frieza: Who were you talking to then?
Knight: Ravenblade
Frieza: Oh you mean Mr. Bean?
Knight: No I mean Ravenblade
*Ravenblade returns*
Frieza: Hey Raven, Knight called you Mr. Bean
Knight: Uh no.
*Ravenblade then locks me*

---Arguing begins---

I then try to contact someone, no one does anything...

Ravenblade: You offered cash to Dante for Reapers

Knight: Uh actually no, I said I sent a report ticket about my Reapers. That was TheIgg who offered you cash for Blue Pistoles. Oh yeah, that other kid in the dark gray armor offered 15k for Double Shot or Candy Reapers to him...?

Ravenblade: So did you.

Knight: Were you even there? Shouldn't Dante be the one locking me...? Why did you wait till he left?

Ravenblade / Frieza: Why don't you just go outside? Go get a girlfriend or something...?

Knight: Well I'm not paying this game to go outside now am I? I have a busy schedule.

*Ravenblade flys off*


I remained locked, my time is up already though.



CHAT HISTORY of my report:

Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:18:51 2007):

Fine I will talk to all of them. Someone like me? You're pretty ****y Dante. I don't see you lasting an eternity.
Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:18:19 2007):
Locking me without a reason is pretty good abuse.
Dante (Events Chief) (Tue Nov 27 18:17:12 2007):
In your opinon, but not on the Event Teams or Dan's Stefan's or Unixmads. Someone like you complaining about such a trivial event will mean nothing. Please stop pming me unless it's something new; I already took care of your issue and warned him regarding it. If he does it again I will suspend his Event Team membership for a week. HOWEVER this will only be done if you have valid proof (and I mean PROOF) that he abused on you.

Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:15:35 2007):
Your reign of chief is already looking bad.
Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:15:11 2007):
Not invalid, same situation basically. I pay, everyone has knowledge. It gives him no right to abuse it.
Dante (Events Chief) (Tue Nov 27 18:14:29 2007):
Comparison ruled invalid. He's got job knowledge and locking you on a video game and killing you in real life are two different things.

Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:11:20 2007):
Welll anyone can host, he may be valuable but that is not an exscuse. I don't even see him host. That's pure biased... If a cop kills someone the police chief doesn't say, oh well if he shoots you again tell me. The least I will do is warn him for now.
Dante (Events Chief) (Tue Nov 27 18:09:03 2007):
If it happens again tell me. For now I don't really mind. He's a valuable ET and the least I'll do is warn him for now.

Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:08:09 2007):
Please find out later.
Dante (Events Chief) (Tue Nov 27 18:06:50 2007):
Don't remember. Stressful day.

Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:05:10 2007):
lol how so?
Dante (Events Chief) (Tue Nov 27 18:04:49 2007):
Harassment.

Quake1 (Tue Nov 27 18:04:34 2007):
o what did Raven say?





PAST REPORT of being cursed at by Ravenblade:

*Dante55555 (Staff) (Thu Nov 15 16:10:31 2007):
Not really. By the time he's even gotten around to it I'm sure I'll have quit Graal (in about two weeks).

Quake1 (Thu Nov 15 16:09:33 2007):
We will see
*Dante55555 (Staff) (Thu Nov 15 16:09:00 2007):
Sure. Either way, Ravenblade is a valued ET and will not be fired or even reprimanded for it. Stefan'll probably copy and paste the history and they'll have a nice laugh.

Quake1 (Thu Nov 15 16:07:09 2007):
He does all the time
*Dante55555 (Staff) (Thu Nov 15 16:07:00 2007):
Stefan won't even read your pm.

Quake1 (Thu Nov 15 16:06:34 2007):
I'll tell Stefan, staff shouldn't be cursing at players for no reason.
*Dante55555 (Staff) (Thu Nov 15 16:06:16 2007):
Dan won't do anything about it.

Quake1 (Thu Nov 15 16:05:42 2007):
Not really, I kind of find it sad. Tell him not to do it again or I will Dan, he is an ass.
*Dante55555 (Staff) (Thu Nov 15 16:05:03 2007):
I guess you deserved it then.

Quake1 (Thu Nov 15 16:03:59 2007):
Ravenblade just told me to "fk off"



I don't know if this is just me or is this a bit biased? I understand... He is an ET so anything he does is legal! Sadly he doesn't even host much. I mean if a policeman goes up to someone they don't like and arrests them for no reason and then the police chief finds out I guarantee they won't get off with a "Oh well, he is a good cop!"...? Frieza, you were already mad at me for protesting mouse click at the beginning even though I am for getting rid of it. Not to mention I left your guild right before this incident occurred.

Ravenblade1979 11-29-2007 06:47 PM

I actually have a reason for not hosting much. I don't have gold time dude. You also have the worst attitude I have seen on Graal. Shall I put in some of the stuff from our pm's? I am sure staff would love to see how you verbally abuse their staff. I am just one of those staff who tend to bite back. Now that dante is in charge however, I have to be nicer.

Frieza 11-29-2007 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1361194)
PM History talk

oh my god, your pathetic, you hadan hour off unable to playzone and you get all whiney over it, raven locked you because you begged dante to trade money for reapers, why dont you just drop it.

os. if you have such a busy shcedual why play graal?

anubis_wing 11-29-2007 07:59 PM

Wow, Dante sounded like an ass in those messages.

Dante55555 11-29-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1361194)
PM History talk

Raven IS a good ET and I warned him. I took care of your problem. I will not fire someone for one offense and I'd rather you not pursue an issue that was already solved. I've begun to crack down on ETs locking without reason due to me now being GP and Head ET. This won't happen again :)

As for the chat history beforehand...well, that was a REALLY REALLY bad day and there wasn't really anything I could do for you. At that time I couldn't overrule an ET because I wasn't any higher in authority than them. I apologize for the way I treated you, it was indeed way out of line.
Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis_wing (Post 1361279)
Wow, Dante sounded like an ass in those messages.

I know :(

Ravenblade1979 11-29-2007 09:14 PM

Yeah great apologize to the person who thought it was ok to offer money for a event prize.


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