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Codein 02-08-2006 10:50 PM

Oh, right, funny man, now you're just being stupid.

Graphics, Ganis or major Script does not relate to Levels, end of. If a graphics designer was interested in contributing to the project, and the only team they had would be levels, then they'd be put off, and even go away. This means less contributors, less progress and people who complain and make jabs at the server in it's current state - people like you, for instance.

Minoc 02-08-2006 11:00 PM

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Graphics, Ganis or major Script does not relate to Levels, end of.

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If a graphics designer was interested in contributing to the project, and the only team they had would be levels, then they'd be put off, and even go away.

Fortunately, most people are gifted with common sense.

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This means less contributors, less progress and people who complain and make jabs at the server in it's current state - people like you, for instance.

Reread.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...5&postcount=13

Codein 02-08-2006 11:08 PM

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Fortunately, most people are gifted with common sense.

It's common sense to think "Right, they're hiring Levels Team, I think I might apply for Graphics Design."? Right.

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I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the poll you made not too long ago, that suggested you were bashing the current project.

Minoc 02-08-2006 11:17 PM

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It's common sense to think "Right, they're hiring Levels Team, I think I might apply for Graphics Design."? Right.

You are a lost cause..


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I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the poll you made not too long ago, that suggested you were bashing the current project.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...87&postcount=9

Codein 02-08-2006 11:25 PM

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You are a lost cause..

I thought the same when you pulled that crap about "Only people with common sense would know that the Levels Team is expected to do everything".

CidNight1142 02-08-2006 11:42 PM

I'd have to say the probably solution to this would be just rename the "LAT" team or whatever to "development" or the "wedoeverythingsquad"...I mean, thats the common sense here...

Minoc 02-08-2006 11:48 PM

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I'd have to say the probably solution to this would be just rename the "LAT" team or whatever to "development" or the "wedoeverythingsquad"...I mean, thats the common sense here...

A solution to what exactly?

Codein 02-08-2006 11:58 PM

The solution to the inevitable arguement.

CidNight1142 02-09-2006 12:00 AM

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A solution to what exactly?

To the confusion over the development squad on classic.
I suppose if you're only looking for classic players, its not bad, since anyone with reasonable hours on classic will probably know the whole "LAT means developer in general" thing. But if you're searching for help from the general development pool, which includes many people who have never played classic, it might help to have a less misleading name.

Inverness 02-09-2006 12:18 AM

Classic does not need to hire any more scripters if they have enough and the LATs can script aswell, it is the same with Aeon, Napo and myself are the only major scripters on the server because most other staff know enough about scripting to do what scripts they need for their own project themselves, which is why we're not hiring scripters.
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The solution to the inevitable arguement.

Levels are what make a server, and levels have graphics and npcs in them. Scripts are Graphics are worth nothing without levels, I don't see anything wrong with the name except for the fact that its is misleading. Changing the name to Developer would make their job more obvious to players who do not understand the difference.

Polo 02-09-2006 01:46 AM

LAT includes scripters, tilers, gani makes, gfx'ers etc on Classic, but as they are all co-ordinated by one admin, they all get braded as on team. It's called LAT instead of Developer because well originally it was called LAt, and I guess it's mainly nostalgia.

Most people looking for a job on Classic usually ask me, then I direct them to the relevant admin, so I don't think the naming really creates much of an issue. ^^

MysticalDragon 02-09-2006 03:18 AM

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Fortunately, most people are gifted with common sense.

I don't usually get into these small bikering arguments but I had to state my opinion. You say most people are gifted with "common sense" huh...Well How is calling a LAT a Developer common sense?I been playing Graal Online Since 99 and i was tought as a Player that LAT stood for "Levels Admin Team".SO how is that common sense? When you where tought one thing and a Classic server comes along and changes a common rank like "LAT" into a developer type status.Having LATs be Dev is a type of Oxy***** move in my opinion. When ever i ran a server i had my LATs,NATs and my Devs that did a ittle bit of everything and work got done rather quickly.Maybe this small rank adjustment is why classic fails to speed up progress...Yes?

jacob_bald6225 02-09-2006 03:20 AM

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Oh, so there is someone, who is highly skilled, yet hasn't played or touched classic, or this post, and they come to Classic, trying it out and notices that they might be in need of their skills, but they're only hiring for Levels Team.

Heck, I didn't know that until you told me. I wouldn't consider myself highly skilled, but I'm not a newbie and I can contribute in some way.

Someone who doesn't or hasn't played classic enough to know that LAT is a mix of staff positions would be useless in making the server more classic-like. This I see is a good choice not to break it into a whole bunch of useless tags.

maximus_asinus 02-09-2006 03:40 AM

Since Classic started the original LAT (which covers scripting/tiling/gfx/etc), wouldn't it be the other servers fault for misleading newbies since they changed the definition of LAT?

Mark Sir Link 02-09-2006 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo
LAT includes scripters, tilers, gani makes, gfx'ers etc on Classic, but as they are all co-ordinated by one admin, they all get braded as on team. It's called LAT instead of Developer because well originally it was called LAt, and I guess it's mainly nostalgia.

Most people looking for a job on Classic usually ask me, then I direct them to the relevant admin, so I don't think the naming really creates much of an issue. ^^

I don't understand the desire for nostalgia since the current server has none.


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