No it isn't.

I mean the current pics1.png. I did some research the other day about how the tileset was bought to Graal and I read a thread about Konidias making new tiles and Stefan wanted them. Them tiles are the current tiles.

I remember back on Dino Valley, there was a weapon that everybody wanted, it was very fun; basically, it was just a putexplosion-weapon. Simple, no ?!
I don't think anyone would like to bring stuff like that anymore, comparing to Graal Kingdoms/Zone things. Things changes, we have to deal with it.

Actually Koni, I wasn't agreeing with you.

I personally enjoyed the Graal that had Zelda stuff in it. I'd be willing to wager more people liked it that way too.

I liked Graal in 2001, communities were nice and such. After p2p the only 2 servers I played that had decent communities were delteria, val, and babylon. All which died after 2003. Sad really :/

I'm not describing NewWorld. I had a chance to play it and I didn't like it. That's not what I had in mind at all. It would be a lot easier if I drew out the concept but then I'd end up devoting myself to the project and I'm not really sure I want to do something like that.

NewWorld resembles pretty much any developing playerworld now. New graphics, new GUI, new gameplay, etc. It doesn't remind me of classic Graal at all. It's totally different. I don't believe it would require THAT many people. You're always thinking far too deeply about things, Soulblade.

I think the bottom line is... that I was disappointed with the route that Cyberjoueurs chose to take with Graal. It's not "Graal" anymore. I won't get into the details because it would cause this thread to somehow vanish... and I'm not trying to be the enemy or anything. I'm simply saying that Kingdoms and Graal 3D and Zone are not "Graal". I'm not trying to say that I know what Graal should be... But in a way, we all know what Graal should be.

Again referencing Mario... It would be like instead of Super Mario Bros coming out... they made Mario more realistic and he hit things with his wrench and he could level up and he'd have to eat mushrooms for sustenance. It's totally not Mario.

Koni you're like my long lost twin brother or something, I agree so much xD

Yeah it is. They were making a new graal that was better then the first, something that had qualities and resembled some parts of the first but was superior in every way. To say "no it isn't" is just stupid.


If you want to be reminded of classic graal, thats fine. Personally, I think classic graal was nothing amazing. It was fun because I saw nothing better. Now that there is better, it needs to be way upgraded. The "yin-yangs" were dumb, the unoriginal "ASD" key interface was dumb, the way items worked was dumb. There is no need to go backwards and do things like that. I do think something which resembles the past could be made, but not something that feels like the classic graal. Am I making sense?

Were you on the team?

Indeed, it was more fun at the time and they should consider doing something like it again.

Dont let people rent servers anymore.
Get rid of P2P.
Put OLD OLD OLD Delteria back up.
Delete other servers.

^^

And make sure all players are atleast 13 years old and have a good amount of maturity.

You're an idiot. Delteria was never good.

Yes I was. I read over 50 pages of discussion done by the original team while I was on the team. When I was on the team many of the originals left...I think NewGut and Kyle0654 were still on...I don't remember the rest.

Ah, so you were there in the amateur phase. Presumably they had truncated their goals somewhat to compensate for lack of talent.

While I was there, we discussed detailed statistics, new combat systems, wide ranges of items, dynamic quests, diverse monsters, storylines, intelligent NPCs, magic, numerous races, vehicles, equivalents of GK's kingdoms, etc.

All of which seems antithetical to Konidias' keep-it-simple credos.

UN is not classic

My Favorite time in Graal was the day before Hera crystals were put up. After Hera crystals a part of me died forever.