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ZER0_H0UR 03-29-2004 11:18 PM

Master Storm would make an excellent manager.

nikomi946 03-29-2004 11:43 PM

For those of you who say managing classic is easy need to think about one thing. Your not taking over a server thats already healthy. Your taking on problems that have existed for a long time and will be blamed for those problems.

Whoever takes over, and I feel it needs to be someone like Masterstorm who actually plays the server consistantly and needs to be willing to devote most of their time and energies into solving its problems. If you need a second candidate that is capable of the organization skills and has the ability to motivate then Sting is another possibility though I don't know if he's interested in the job.

Please forget the idea of a new classic, there is no such thing. Classic is classic. Yes, the oldbies are opinionated but contrary to popular belief not completely without compromise. I think you'll find the reason for their stubborness is nobody bothers to ask them their ideas on a change, its just pushed onto them.

Now get to it, get this management mess sorted so progress can be made! Talking it to death isn't gonna solve anything.

Bell Darkmane

TESTRETIS 03-30-2004 12:04 AM

I think the current staff of the server should decide.

Andy0687 03-30-2004 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by --Chris--

Wrong. GTA is not a "playerworld."

A) i am not Wan

b) It might as well be the same diffrence, in the playerworld application it said you must quit jobs at any server

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Originally posted by Kristi
I would include you =p
Hell Raven and James for managers :cool:

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Originally posted by nikomi946

For those of you who say managing classic is easy need to think about one thing. Your not taking over a server thats already healthy. Your taking on problems that have existed for a long time and will be blamed for those problems.

Yes i truely know how that is, when i took over Babylon i had to work with all of the problems it had, i had just got allong to solving them as well, when Nemesis came and messed things up. This is a great point and anyone considering it should take notice.

Polo 03-30-2004 12:18 AM

No problem is too great when you have a deep love for the server as I have.

Kristi 03-30-2004 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by nikomi946
For those of you who say managing classic is easy need to think about one thing. Your not taking over a server thats already healthy. Your taking on problems that have existed for a long time and will be blamed for those problems.
Wow, thanks for that enlightenment, none of this occured to me as I typed my posts because I don''t actually think. Thinking is silly. (end sarcasm)

I have been there since the problems started, im well aware of what needs to be done (including solutions to the exploits i easily capatilized on)

Quote:

Originally posted by nikomi946

Whoever takes over, and I feel it needs to be someone like Masterstorm who actually plays the server consistantly and needs to be willing to devote most of their time and energies into solving its problems. If you need a second candidate that is capable of the organization skills and has the ability to motivate then Sting is another possibility though I don't know if he's interested in the job.

Why? Some people stopped playing because no one is doing anything. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be devoted to fixing it. That only means they aren't devoted to the nonadvancing GTA that exists at the time.

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Originally posted by nikomi946

Please forget the idea of a new classic, there is no such thing. Classic is classic. Yes, the oldbies are opinionated but contrary to popular belief not completely without compromise. I think you'll find the reason for their stubborness is nobody bothers to ask them their ideas on a change, its just pushed onto them.

Now get to it, get this management mess sorted so progress can be made! Talking it to death isn't gonna solve anything.

Bell Darkmane

I said new classic sarcastically. I posted my start of a solution in another thread. And yes, the players opinions do matter. A lot of the old people left because they didn't like the changes.

As for "sorting this management mess" it is clearly out of our hands. We can only hope some higher power steps up and starts calling shots.

Malinko 03-30-2004 01:57 AM

Graal The Adventure is a great server. It's probably one of the only Classic playerworlds with something to do, and quest that actually take time to do. With most of the staff being GPs and FAQs, the server probably has few updates but still, the server is a fun place to play on. But back to the topic, Master Storm, he is current GP Admin. I've known him for little time and seen his server and also seen him on the Classic Development server where I was helping NPC Server conversion, but out of all that time, I've talked to Master Storm time to time. He is a good person, great GP Admin. He knows how to keep the old classic styles of the levels, he knows a great sum about scripting and gani making. He even makes a few great movies time to time. Classic Graal could make a great development with Master Storm as Manager. He is probably the best choice I can think of to see some more things on Classic. I support Master Storm 100% of the way for Management of Graal The Adventure.

Damix2 03-30-2004 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by WanDaMan
Hrmm Spark mabey?
He is head of PWA.. so it seems appropriate..

Retarded idea, I'm even against Spark super modding these forums.

No one should have more then one job, no matter how well they do both, they both will take time and both jobs will not have the persons full time.

jake13jake 03-30-2004 04:09 AM

Having an active manager probably wouldn't catalyze anything. The only real effect would be more or less abuses by staff. The other affect, though, is something that would definately help Classic out. A PRESENCE.

Since I have begun playing Graal, I have seen Tyhm on maybe 10 times. Two times before the Cypher/Devas thing, during the Cypher/Devas thing, during the Nemesis thing, during the Soul thing, and then a few other times to give rights to people. Tyhm has NO PRESENCE. The presence of a manager might settle down the Classic-ites from their anarchy/state of boredom.

Master Storm wants me to endorse him. :P
I endorse... hmmmmm.... Storm is the most responsible person I can think of. Kat would have gladly pounced on any chance to ban me that he could. That and Storm is knowledgable in programming, does not have any majorly obligating prior engagements, isn't too skeptical, and has respect from the players.

I really should be FAQ Admin on Classic, but instead right now I'm LAT workhorse... And my god... I can't believe that these people are so friggen slow at converting levels. I've gone through like 150 in one week... It's not hard... Especially with the map levels. Malinko has been doing CC, and in that time span I've gone through the mapped Avalon, Dragon's Isle, Floydia, Graal City, Swamp Town, Destiny Desert, Dark Forest, Master Li's Area, Delta, and a couple of playerhouses.

--Chris-- 03-30-2004 04:14 AM

"b) It might as well be the same diffrence, in the playerworld application it said you must quit jobs at any server"

Wrong again: "*You must be willing and must to quit any job you have with a playerworld at this moment in time, should you get offered (you don’t have to take it) the job and take it."

-Ramirez- 03-30-2004 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by jake13jake
Kat would have gladly pounced on any chance to ban me that he could.
That was completely uncalled for. You don't know anything about me like you think you do. I don't recall banning a SINGLE PERSON for something not related to trainer usage. I had sooooooo many people I would have gladly banned if I were like that, but clearly I'm not.

Quote:

I really should be FAQ Admin on Classic
Such arrogance...

WHIPENIE4 03-30-2004 07:06 AM

Kat could of banned you if he wanted to, but hes not really corrupt, he may insult me, I don't give a damn? he still isn't corrupt.

Well you can say Classic "sucks" but if you can manage about a 50 player average, please step up and do something you smartass.


Oh and yes. I am a dedicated player/staff member. But I have very little level or NPC skills. I don't have skills to manage :) thats why I say Storm for Manager

GTXOO 03-30-2004 09:55 AM

GTA?

WanDaMan 03-30-2004 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
"Originally posted by Spark910


I have what it takes for a server manager,
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However it would be aginst the pwa rules, if you were to take up such a task." - Wan

Wrong. GTA is not a "playerworld."

It is? is this a new rule?

kabouter 03-30-2004 11:06 AM

Well, we can all say, Storm for Manager, Spark for manager.
But who decide's who is going to be the new manager, and will there be?


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