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G_yoshi 07-19-2003 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy


I must say I do think he stoled them but thats not proof. The fact that it is lighter and darker is just common shading for it to be lighter on top and darker on bottem. They are the same lenth because thats how it fits on 16 by 16 tiles. The colors are different and the actual house brick is different. It is really easy to make such things in ms paint. So that is not proof but I still think he stoled it...

its easy to make anything in any image program :p MS Paint is just a crappy tool Microsoft gave people to make images with. Get Neopaint. Its far more powerful than MS Paint and it can save in many formats and with different color resolutions (full color, 256, 8, etc.).

tlf288 07-19-2003 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


its easy to make anything in any image program :p MS Paint is just a crappy tool Microsoft gave people to make images with. Get Neopaint. Its far more powerful than MS Paint and it can save in many formats and with different color resolutions (full color, 256, 8, etc.).

But... Is it as good for pixel art as MS Paint? That is why everyone uses MS Paint for Graal.

G_yoshi 07-19-2003 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


But... Is it as good for pixel art as MS Paint? That is why everyone uses MS Paint for Graal.

I highly doubt everyone uses MS Paint for Graal. :p I recommended a better graphics program, are you going to doubt me? Its what I've been using to make any kind of artwork. I do use a little of Photoshop, but not for doing sprites.

tlf288 07-19-2003 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


I highly doubt everyone uses MS Paint for Graal.

I didn't mean is literally :\ .


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Its what I've been using to make any kind of artwork. I do use a little of Photoshop, but not for doing sprites.

I'm not doubting you. It is just I have been working with Graphic Artists for many years and _almost_ all of them use MS Paint. Infact, I think all that I have worked with have used MS Paint.

G_yoshi 07-19-2003 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288

I'm not doubting you. It is just I have been working with Graphic Artists for many years and _almost_ all of them use MS Paint. Infact, I think all that I have worked with have used MS Paint.

That's their problem :p Like I said, I use Neopaint for all of my graphics which means lots of sprites and lots of working with pixels. I only use photoshop for a few things and that's about it. Usually, its like a post-production tool for me :)

MadWolf 07-19-2003 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


its easy to make anything in any image program :p MS Paint is just a crappy tool Microsoft gave people to make images with. Get Neopaint. Its far more powerful than MS Paint and it can save in many formats and with different color resolutions (full color, 256, 8, etc.).

Neopaint eh? I might try this after I reformat. :p

G_yoshi 07-19-2003 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

Neopaint eh? I might try this after I reformat. :p

MS Paint is rather cumbersome to use since the color palette, while slightly configurable, is too small. Neopaint has a nice color tray you can just go to and click any where inside it to pick any color you choose.

Plus there are a nice set of image editing tools and such as well as image effects.

MadWolf 07-19-2003 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


MS Paint is rather cumbersome to use since the color palette, while slightly configurable, is too small. Neopaint has a nice color tray you can just go to and click any where inside it to pick any color you choose.

Plus there are a nice set of image editing tools and such as well as image effects.

I'm not really an effect fan(I found that for the terrain on maloria all they used was ONE simple effect in PSP), however I will need to start using brushes and such for my next project. For MS Paint I usually make my own palettes by putting squares of the darker color going to a higher contrast. Works fine for me, but this would save me time.

G_yoshi 07-19-2003 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

I'm not really an effect fan(I found that for the terrain on maloria all they used was ONE simple effect in PSP), however I will need to start using brushes and such for my next project. For MS Paint I usually make my own palettes by putting squares of the darker color going to a higher contrast. Works fine for me, but this would save me time.

Another nice thing about Neopaint is when stepping down in color resolution, it makes the smaller palette match the original image as best as possible. Also uses dithering effects to make the changes less noticeable. Also has an adjustable grid overlay :) Mine's always set to 16x16 since that is how I work.

davidpsy 07-19-2003 09:06 AM

No offence G yoshi but MS paint rox the sox I make some of my greatest works on MS paint. Really, it is the best program for me anyway.

mhermher 07-19-2003 01:31 PM

Fence:
I told you Donald, it will change, i saw a fence like that in a stupid ranch, what do you want from me? -_-

Roof:
That are the only way, to make them fit, i don't want to make 25 tiles for 1 roof, so i made it fit, how else could i do it?

Kinatt:
hell no, buddy.. Kinatt is a good friend, he were helping me with the bodies, next day he said, get me a job on GK, so i tryed, and stefan hired him.. what's wrong with that?

Just because you didn't get to keep him, doesn't make me bad for having it.

Mark: On this board, i can tell you: I didn't lie to you, contact me on AIM for full story please.

Donald: I don't know what your problem is, on AIM you're a nice guy, on here to accouse me of theft without proof?

WarLord2004 07-19-2003 03:04 PM

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Hmmm.......

First of i don't want to get on anyone bad side since i hardly know any of you. But from what i seen here is total ****. How can you bash at one guy for making a fence simular to a playerworld project that i have not seen up yet on the server list and yet others are editing graal kingdoms stuff and walking around freely? So since others are allowed to do soo why can't the normal people do it? We need to be friends with a special team before we can edit stuff and no one would bash at us? This is very un-fair soo guess graal is just about power and not helping each other. So it's clear now since other playerworlds can do it so can the rest so don't come to my server and bash me for stuff you see is simular -ktnxbye

mhermher 07-19-2003 03:19 PM

By the way Mark, don't say as it was my fault that i remade GK stuff, you sent me GK templates and said "Here edit this ones and send me it" about making them bad: Never worked with terrain, and about my hamster, why do you think it's a lie, when infact it's 100% true?

MarkB 07-19-2003 09:15 PM

To Warlord:

You dont know how to let **** lay do you? I talked with Tfia, k? Dont even start about Archaic, DD doesnt even have a set theme. So keep your **** to yourself k?

konidias 07-19-2003 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by WarLord2004
Hmmm.......

First of i don't want to get on anyone bad side since i hardly know any of you. But from what i seen here is total ****. How can you bash at one guy for making a fence simular to a playerworld project that i have not seen up yet on the server list and yet others are editing graal kingdoms stuff and walking around freely? So since others are allowed to do soo why can't the normal people do it? We need to be friends with a special team before we can edit stuff and no one would bash at us? This is very un-fair soo guess graal is just about power and not helping each other. So it's clear now since other playerworlds can do it so can the rest so don't come to my server and bash me for stuff you see is simular -ktnxbye

You're not really using logic here. Say you have server B who is copying server A, and server D who is copying server C.

Server A gets angry at server B for copying their stuff, and they argue about it. Server C doesn't care if server D copies the stuff, and everything is fine. It's not a matter of whether or not it's "legal" to copy someone elses work. It's apparent Stefan doesn't mind if someone makes something similar to GK, but I mind that people are doing it to my stuff. There is a difference.


Tyrial
"Kinatt:
hell no, buddy.. Kinatt is a good friend, he were helping me with the bodies, next day he said, get me a job on GK, so i tryed, and stefan hired him.. what's wrong with that?

Just because you didn't get to keep him, doesn't make me bad for having it. "


Uh, right... Kinatt talked with me on aim and said it really sucked that he HAD to make those bodies for you, and that he got stuck because he said he would make them if you got him a job on GK. He even told me "I didn't really think he'd be able to get me a job" or something along those lines. So you basically suckered him into working for you. He left Oasis a while before he even worked with you. He left for Era because Angel said she was going to pay him. Then you threw him that deal, he accepted, and now he is stuck with you.

Another reason he probably left Oasis, like some of the "staff" I have there, is because I didn't allow him to access Oasis, didn't give him RC, nothing. He made graphics and that was it. I guess he didn't like that setup much, so he left to get something other than satisfaction out of working. Basically he left because he got greedy. He wanted money/power. I would never take him back. He acts like a total jerk on the forums, and then he goes and pulls stupid crap like leaving because of greed.


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