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Proxy 09-22-2002 07:54 PM

Re: Re: Re: Read this NOW. All of you.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight


Ask Disturbed himself. He will tell you, point blank, that he puts Sub7 in trainers. :\ Don't believe me if you don't want to.

I'm sure if Corpse does say he downloaded one, it was to "test the trainer."


Yes, Lyndzey, I meant as in one of those lame programs people use on Classic (or try to) all the time.


DL didn't use a Sub7 this time... he abused a windows security glitch found on a prominent hacking site, he wasn't ashamed to admit it.

zell12 09-22-2002 09:00 PM

Why couldn't you Global Staff globally ban Disturbed Limit. I mean, we all know he was a hacker, and screwed up many servers, like Mithica :O. And he also thief's accounts, like Flip.

Milkdude99 09-22-2002 09:38 PM

Ok I am confused here , I have many accounts and in the 3 years I have played Graal NEVER have I had an account "hacked" and some of the best hackers on Graal have tried BUT I have always protected my comp at all times with a good virus program and a firewall (Norton SystemWorks 2002 right now) so why doesn't anyone in a Staff postion take better care of their accounts? Sorry guys I find it inexcusable to let this happen ......Also why are they allowed to hold high Staff if their IP's change to that degree?Even if they had the password; and the IP is set a hacker cannot get on the RC with the wrong IP, this is why it is so important to have your IP set and not use Staff with a dynamic IP for a RC job. We do but do not allow them to have RC for obvious reasons and give them non-RC jobs.:(

Googi 09-22-2002 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Ok I am confused here , I have many accounts and in the 3 years I have played Graal NEVER have I had an account "hacked" and some of the best hackers on Graal have tried BUT I have always protected my comp at all times with a good virus program and a firewall (Norton SystemWorks 2002 right now) so why doesn't anyone in a Staff postion take better care of their accounts? Sorry guys I find it inexcusable to let this happen ......Also why are they allowed to hold high Staff if their IP's change to that degree?Even if they had the password; and the IP is set a hacker cannot get on the RC with the wrong IP, this is why it is so important to have your IP set and not use Staff with a dynamic IP for a RC job. We do but do not allow them to have RC for obvious reasons and give them non-RC jobs.:(
:-\, if you have the skills to hack, I think you can spoof your IP.

zell12 09-22-2002 10:23 PM

coughroutercough

freddyfox 09-22-2002 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight

Disturbed Limit cannot hack. He implants Sub7 into trainers. He told me this when we were actually friends on Elven Lands.

So you can only assume Corpse downloaded a trainer. :\

If a murderer told you he didn't murder people, does that make it true?

Neonight 09-22-2002 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freddyfox


If a murderer told you he didn't murder people, does that make it true?

Read the conversation. I admitted I was wrong.

Basically, Disturbed Limit signed up for Corpse's old hotmail account that had expired and either requested a new password or he looked at an email with the password in it.


To James:

Sorry. :( I didn't notice that post. You must've posted that after I left. ;x

gloop 09-22-2002 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
You can't just give yourself an arbitrary IP otherwise the TCP/IP wouldn't work. The server wouldn't be able to send you any data. Sure, you can use a router to achieve a different IP to your 'true' one, but you can't decide "Hey, I want the IP 133.713.371.337" unless you somehow have access to the computer with that IP and are using it to bounce your connection.
nono
you can get an ip spoofer for your comp, it just gives you a selected range


crazyness

PIRAT 09-23-2002 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight
Now I know I'm gonna see "HE WAS HACKED BY DL" throughout this whole thing, but I must tell you all something.

Disturbed Limit cannot hack. He implants Sub7 into trainers. He told me this when we were actually friends on Elven Lands.

So you can only assume Corpse downloaded a trainer. :\

ok so its his own fault and he should be banned for life.

SaitoHajime 09-23-2002 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Ok I am confused here , I have many accounts and in the 3 years I have played Graal NEVER have I had an account "hacked" and some of the best hackers on Graal have tried BUT I have always protected my comp at all times with a good virus program and a firewall (Norton SystemWorks 2002 right now) so why doesn't anyone in a Staff postion take better care of their accounts? Sorry guys I find it inexcusable to let this happen ......Also why are they allowed to hold high Staff if their IP's change to that degree?Even if they had the password; and the IP is set a hacker cannot get on the RC with the wrong IP, this is why it is so important to have your IP set and not use Staff with a dynamic IP for a RC job. We do but do not allow them to have RC for obvious reasons and give them non-RC jobs.:(
His RC didn't get logged-onto. And not allowing those with dynamic IPs to have RC is a mistake; dynamic IPs make it more difficult for someone to be hacked, because if a "Hacker" got his/her IP address at one time, it will have changed by the time they would have "given up and gone to their hacker friends with that IP for extra help."

And, most dynamic IPs (exception being large providers such as AOL) will only give a certain IP range in a local area; so to have an IP in the IP range would mean they would have to meet a lot of circumstances.

Quote:

Originally posted by PIRAT


ok so its his own fault and he should be banned for life.

To you, all I can say is that you did not read this whole thread, and therefore have no idea what you're talking about.

Nemesis 09-23-2002 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
Oh ****...

Lets hope konidias can change passwords, Disturbed must have gotten to Corpse again.

A lot of people know his passwords...someone was taunting me telling me the password last night and other people tried to contact Konidias on aim but they say he wasn't even bothering to respond, or he was away or something....so hope was lost whatever was done, is done cuz only 3 people can fix it as of right now....so yeah

VampiricTutorNewHD 09-23-2002 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


This makes no sense. If the server does not know your real IP address then it can not send you data.

Yes.


However, they could still proxy. That is how the wackos like Viper DoSsed Graal back in June(?).

Milkdude99 09-24-2002 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis


Umm people hacked your accounts before...just they never masked your IP and back then you could of changed your own password for your account...You do not have AOL...so the security issue isn't really there...Member when they got the whole account database? Yeah thats one time...just that it's easier to hack dialup users than cable because if they can't ip spoof good luck...Generally they go for people who use the same ISP....but yeah

No Nem NONE of my accounts have EVER been hacked , what you refer to is Richard , his account was hacked by him letting his firewall down and they got his password and since he was Head Admin he had access to the levels , this is the ONLY time someone got access to the levels and deleted them. It wasn't by my accounts but by Richards accounts , at least if you are going to post something like this GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!:grrr:

Darlene159 09-24-2002 11:20 AM

err, nem...you said he had his accounts hacked....noone ever got on Moon gods accounts, thats what the post appeared that you were saying

Neonight 09-24-2002 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Nemesis


you seem to forget the infamous account hack when they got the entire graal database...Heck people know where I live...my address..full name phone number etc etc etc

People have all that information from when it happened...Yes passwords were there...But the account team immediately changed them and we had the website working I believe (thank god) anyways...It's a true fact and I know a lot of people can back the claim up when they got the entire database....So do not get mad at me...I wasn't specifiying npulse...I was stating graal as a whole...

If you forget that easily...I'm sorry, just refreshing your memory and clearing up the situation

Nemesis, when the account information leaked, that wasn't someone who knows little about hacking. What you're saying is comparing a box to a mansion. One is little and one is big.

Just for the record, that was in Graalonline's account database, not requesting a new password.


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