Um, no...a dagger that's a foot and a half long is called a Short Sword.

Umm no...swords were pretty damn long Tyhm....a short sword would maybe be three feat or more. A knife is around 6 inches maybe. A tanto is a sgort dagger maybe 8-10 inches or more. A dagger is a dagger...whic are pretty long...I've never seen a dagger at my dojo or at museums (not only oriental museums, lots from many time peroids and places) that was less than a foot a a few inches...although I have seen them as small as 11' in websites.

I have a knife in my kitchen that's like 3". Does that mean it's not a knife?

why the hell does it matter? me stefan or er1c pick the names....not you guys

screw all the scientific historic mumbo jumbo ;)

Call it a... Harrypoterroxsharpthing

WHAT THE HELL? 11 foot swords?!?

Yeah, your average sword is 3-4 foot, your average short sword is 1.5-2, counting blade length here. If our daggers are too short to be daggers, then call them knives and have done with - daggers just sound better. You can't possibly expect me to believe that the Nail Dagger is a foot long...

in graal size doesnt matter, blknight or whatever should stop trying to make everything too realistic.

Tell that to Tyhm than too. He said that it was unrealistic that daggers do more damage than they do now. I said it isn't and supproted it with real life examples. Please read all the messages Pir if you must comment on a matter that in no way affects the actual stuff that happens on the server.

Um, no you didn't dude...you said that a stab through the heart with a poisoned dagger wielded by an expert assassin would do more damage than a clumsy sword swing, which I agree, but it's not even remotely a fair comparison.

A slash with a normal sword verses a slash with a normal dagger, the normal sword does more damage.
A stab with a normal sword verses a stab with a normal dagger, the normal sword does more damage.

If you refuse to make fair comparisons, your arguments are null and void.

The current thing I am debating is that you as well are trying to argue my suggestions using real life examples (ie. swords in real life do more damage than daggers) while Pir told only me to stop doing so.

why the crap does it matter. im going to make 2 new weapons, The BLKnight Machine Gun and The Tyhm Bazooka, karate will do more damage than both. please shut up

What about my Harrypoterroxomgsupersharpthing??

It's a public forum Pir, we can argue about pointless topics if we feel like it. You posted this thread to get information on a idea you decided not to go ahead with, and now is but a free discussion thread, so I don't see why you are annoyed by these messages.

A compromise -
as these are Diamond daggers, it makes sense they would be harder, sharper, and more damaging than Steel swords. However, I will not admit that a diamond dagger would do more damage than a diamond sword, and still think they should add diamond swords and metal daggers - probably the metal dagger should be the absolute cheapest and easiest weapon in the game to make, rivaled only by Karate - 1 blade and 0 gold gets you a Simple Dagger.

Fine. Diamond daggers are stronger (a bit) than regular swords. And faster. But the regular swords have a longer range as they do now and ovbiously can be used with a shield. The diamond swords are stronger than diamond daggers, but you can't use a shield with them........agreed?