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Zurkiba 06-13-2002 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Discharge
Ok well be more clear and im glad you were mature enough not to cuss. Anyhows Rome had a MAJOR effect on the world. The US goverment was indeed greatly influenced by the Roman republic since Rome was the first nation to practice a republican form of goverment. Our english language and most all of the euro countries our based on Latin. And today Roman desendents are every where, including me XD
Romans helped to make old english... Vikings helped to make the modern new english. I have no Roman blood in me... I have Celtic blood... the blood that turned the Romans around. I think I was pretty clear in there.



And to the other guy who said there was no such thing as a Viking Kingdom... there was... the Vikings weren't just all "lets go kill this because we are tribal beast".

The Vikings had one of the bests economics, without the Vikings there would be no Russia, there would be no Denmark, Normandy, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Poland.

The Norse Vikings were civilized as they estabilished The Denmark Kingdom (a spand of Denmark and Sweden, including Greenland, Iceland, Alaska)

I've studied Vikings too much and I know about them :) so there is no need to argue.

People think too highly of the Romans... they had little effect on the world. I myself know latin and the only language that even comes CLOSE to latin... (besides Italian) is Spanish, the first state to be conquered by the Romans. Even though the Spanish language is still differnt from Latin. There are few english words in latin (Intro(enter), Vir(man), vehicula(carraige), etc).

And just to add... The Dark Ages were before the Middle Ages.
The Middle Ages were in the middle of the Dark Ages and the Renaissance. (Dark Age < Middle Age < Renaissance < Imperal < Industrial < Atomic)

draygin 06-13-2002 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

Romans helped to make old english... Vikings helped to make the modern new english. I have no Roman blood in me... I have Celtic blood... the blood that turned the Romans around. I think I was pretty clear in there.



And to the other guy who said there was no such thing as a Viking Kingdom... there was... the Vikings weren't just all "lets go kill this because we are tribal beast".

The Vikings had one of the bests economics, without the Vikings there would be no Russia, there would be no Denmark, Normandy, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Poland.

The Norse Vikings were civilized as they estabilished The Denmark Kingdom (a spand of Denmark and Sweden, including Greenland, Iceland, Alaska)

I've studied Vikings too much and I know about them :) so there is no need to argue.

People think too highly of the Romans... they had little effect on the world. I myself know latin and the only language that even comes CLOSE to latin... (besides Italian) is Spanish, the first state to be conquered by the Romans. Even though the Spanish language is still differnt from Latin. There are few english words in latin (Intro(enter), Vir(man), vehicula(carraige), etc).

And just to add... The Dark Ages were before the Middle Ages.
The Middle Ages were in the middle of the Dark Ages and the Renaissance. (Dark Age < Middle Age < Renaissance < Imperal < Industrial < Atomic)

Actually almost all languages where derived from Latin. Aside from the asian languages. English French Spanish you name it. For example Exit is pure latin. The word Prime I could go on and on. Of course languages change and grow but that doesnt change where it origonally game from.

Discharge 06-14-2002 04:03 AM

The Roman Empires influence on our everyday life in the United States is never ending. Rome has influenced the form of government we’ve chosen, the buildings we build, and the language we speak, read, write, and hear. One of the most apparent of Rome's continuing influence on today's society exists in the governmental structure and legal system in use in much of the western world. The Roman law as codified by Gaius during the Flavian emperors is today the basis for most European legal systems and laws. In this system, all laws are listed by crimes in one or more books. In England and the United States, a variation of the Roman law is used, called Common Law. The judgement and punishments are based on precedent, on rulings that previous judges and juries have made. Where we see Latin influence most in the legal system of the United States is in the language of the courts. The Romans bulit amazing coliseum and they built aqueducts so there people can get water pratically anywhere. Today you will see many house with the influcences of Greek/Roman art. And if it was not for the Christian Emperors, many of us in europe and pretty much every where in the world would not be in a Christian church. We would would still be practicing spells on each other or whatever or of course might be in the other popular religions around the world. Haha the Roman economy was far far superior then the Vikings who were barbarians. In the middle ages most of euorpe could not read nor write. They had to depend on the Roman Catholic churches. Rome lasted about 600 years which is alot for a HUGE empire that cover Asia, Europe and Africa. Yes celtics did have an impact on some of our languages but very little on the southern euro nations. The Ottoman empire coverd very little comapred to Rome.

Zurkiba 06-14-2002 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by Discharge
The Roman Empires influence on our everyday life in the United States is never ending. Rome has influenced the form of government we’ve chosen, the buildings we build, and the language we speak, read, write, and hear. One of the most apparent of Rome's continuing influence on today's society exists in the governmental structure and legal system in use in much of the western world. The Roman law as codified by Gaius during the Flavian emperors is today the basis for most European legal systems and laws. In this system, all laws are listed by crimes in one or more books. In England and the United States, a variation of the Roman law is used, called Common Law. The judgement and punishments are based on precedent, on rulings that previous judges and juries have made. Where we see Latin influence most in the legal system of the United States is in the language of the courts. The Romans bulit amazing coliseum and they built aqueducts so there people can get water pratically anywhere. Today you will see many house with the influcences of Greek/Roman art. And if it was not for the Christian Emperors, many of us in europe and pretty much every where in the world would not be in a Christian church. We would would still be practicing spells on each other or whatever or of course might be in the other popular religions around the world. Haha the Roman economy was far far superior then the Vikings who were barbarians. In the middle ages most of euorpe could not read nor write. They had to depend on the Roman Catholic churches. Rome lasted about 600 years which is alot for a HUGE empire that cover Asia, Europe and Africa. Yes celtics did have an impact on some of our languages but very little on the southern euro nations. The Ottoman empire coverd very little comapred to Rome.
Never stated the Celtics had an impact on our language.

Go to any historian and ask if the Normans/Vikings had more of an impact on the world today then the Romans.

The Vikings set up the idea US Court system. BECAUSE of the Norman control over england... a new culture and language was brought into the island.

And Europe, Africa, and Asia... all lost Latin influnce. I speak Latin... if I was to go to Spain, or France... I wouldn't know what the hell they were talking about... but if I was to go to Italy... I would understand nearly every single word.

Discharge 06-14-2002 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

Never stated the Celtics had an impact on our language.

Go to any historian and ask if the Normans/Vikings had more of an impact on the world today then the Romans.

The Vikings set up the idea US Court system. BECAUSE of the Norman control over england... a new culture and language was brought into the island.

And Europe, Africa, and Asia... all lost Latin influnce. I speak Latin... if I was to go to Spain, or France... I wouldn't know what the hell they were talking about... but if I was to go to Italy... I would understand nearly every single word.

Indeed, go ask any historian and they will tell you Rome had a far more impact on the world in general then the Vikings.

ghostsamurai 06-14-2002 05:33 AM

questoin for discharge: do you have any sort of creativity?
first you were a roman, then you became a spaniard, now you have this viking idea. ARE YOU EVER GIONG TO MAKE UP SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDNT STEAL FROM A HISTORY BOOK?

Brad 06-14-2002 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by ghostsamurai
questoin for discharge: do you have any sort of creativity?
first you were a roman, then you became a spaniard, now you have this viking idea. ARE YOU EVER GIONG TO MAKE UP SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDNT STEAL FROM A HISTORY BOOK?

Holy:
Please join my new kingdom
America

Discharge 06-15-2002 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by ghostsamurai
questoin for discharge: do you have any sort of creativity?
first you were a roman, then you became a spaniard, now you have this viking idea. ARE YOU EVER GIONG TO MAKE UP SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDNT STEAL FROM A HISTORY BOOK?

Well if you got a problem with that then too bad. Anyways I joined Rome, I never made Rome and the spaniard thing is just me in Dustari. Viking was an idea I had awhile back and now Im just happy being in Dustari as a spaniard.

-FIN-

ghostsamurai 06-15-2002 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Discharge


Well if you got a problem with that then too bad. Anyways I joined Rome, I never made Rome and the spaniard thing is just me in Dustari. Viking was an idea I had awhile back and now Im just happy being in Dustari as a spaniard.

-FIN-

well, I think it completly destroyes the rp atmosphere when someone descides to take a place or culture from the real world and try to fit it into an already bustling rp storyline :mad:

Discharge 06-15-2002 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by ghostsamurai
well, I think it completly destroyes the rp atmosphere when someone descides to take a place or culture from the real world and try to fit it into an already bustling rp storyline :mad:
Well didn't the Samuaris come from history? I guess the story is mest up all ready. :o


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