Bringing yourself down to their level is not worth it and makes you no better than they are so don't do it.....

With your logic you are saying ICQ would be shut down. Any kind of communication used by terrorists should be shut down. what the forums and the main page of SG111 really are is a way of communication. ICQ and e-mail is a way of communication.
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Of course the site would be shut down if it was made by terrorists. Everything terrorists are known for is Illegal. What SG111 does it simply critizises graals management, he may have some pictures of Unixmad and Stefan that are altered, but people do that to celeberties ALL THE TIME. You dont see them going crazy. Viper is just someone he allows (or used to allow) to post on his site, not knowning what he would do.
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Of course the host would shut you down because most likely they have many other people to host, and losing just one person isnt that much, and they can't tell if you are lieing or not. For them to sit there and deal with that would be pointless. You shouldnt of even mentioned that.
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SG111 never helped with the attacks. He simply created a website, long before this was EVER planned. Viper and a few others have constantly been talking about doing something like this for a long time... but never to go through with it. SG111 simply thought this was another one of his little "Im pissed and I want to talk about taking down graal" which he has every right to do.
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REMINDER: I DO NOT SUPPORT VIPER IN A LITTLE WAY. WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG AND SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. SO DONT THINK I AM STICKING UP FOR THEM.

Check my IP. I know for a fact that I am not one of those *****s Ddosing Graal...

ICQ is a piss poor example because it is a "chat program" and we are not talking about a Chat program....something you fail to see is , they provided the "means " for the "tools " they used in a illegal activity, this in itself makes them responsible, by allowing the link to the tools they need to hack Graal and gave out info on the ports which is also illegal... To run a responsible journalistic site to post "freedom of speech" you must also take responsiblity for it's content to make sure what is there is first "true and accurate " and not slanderous .. for this will make them responsible in a court of law as spreading malious slander..As the same goes for a newspaper , that is why they have a legal dept to guard the paper from this kind of thing. If a paper willingly prints lets say "top secret papers " of the Goverment something that will harm the defense of that country, do you still say they have the right because of "free speech?" Of course not , why? because it would be harmful to that said country , what is the difference here? What they "allowed to stay up " was indeed harmful to others and yet they choose to ignore that and let it remain and because of this fact are directly resonsible for the actions taken against Graal lanched not by one but by many because they allowed it to be "spread by their site". To be responsible Journalist they should have removed it from their site so as not to be involved with any illegal activity , whether directly or indirectly... This is my gripe with them and check with an Attourney and see if what I say is correct or not...

Re: Stefan/Unixmad - This Guys May Have Had Something To Do With Servers Going Down
 

All of them are idiotic poseurs, none of which can actually "hack." Getting the passwords using Brutus and deleting them with telnet or such is not hacking.

Viper or whoever does not know how to use PSP very well, because that is not what unixmad looks like and you can see where it was airbrushed.

I'm laughing so hard right now, my stomach hurts. These guys give off a good laugh. Now let's watch a picture of a skinny Lycia roll in that's been airbrushed.


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Oh, and if unixmad does send in the FBI, or whatever against SG111, I am fully with that. I support it, in fact.

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"They" the ones who posted the tools and ports was VIPER. Not SG111.

Read that over and over... please...

Of course YES. The whole point of a newspaper is to give information to the public. If they can get there hands on the information, then they print it. There are no ethics in the media. Do not tell me that there are, the only place where you see ethics is on the Disney shows full of queers. In this case, it would be the countrys fault for allowing those papers to get out. The way the paper got them though was probally illegal, inless the country's management was made up of ****ing gummy bears. The news paper would get in trouble for abtaining the documents illegally but not for posting them.

yeah thats all find and dandy, but bill clinton basically protects them when he signed the internet laws that prevents a site from shutting them down because of the content on their page. Just like porn sites, they have the right to be there. Providing the "tools" is not illegal, the people who misuse them are irresponsible.