I think you need to grab your blanky and bottle of milk and take a nap.

Are you honestly not seeing how Nintendo's usage of a resistive touchscreen on the Nintendo DS (next to eight buttons and a d-pad) had essentially nothing to do with Apple's push towards a phone design using only a capacitive touchscreen and one button? Am I overlooking all the phones featuring resistive touchscreens with pens or something?

You guys are forgetting about the OG handheld with touch screen, the game.com released by Tiger Electronics in 1997. It heavily influenced the design of the DS with it's multi button input, touch screen with stylus support, two cartridge slots, and online functionality.

I actually played Duke Nukem on game.com back when it came out in the 90's.

Once again I believe you're referring to the iPod Touch.

you are the only human being on this entire planet post-2007 that actually believes this, my dude. i give you a lot of credit for carrying the Nintendo Torch (someone has to) and i think a lot of the people in this thread give you an unnecessary amount of crap for it and also don't give Nintendo enough credit on a lot of stuff, but there is not a single tech historian on the face of planet earth who will tell you that the DS disrupted technology more than the iPhone.

don't be goofy

phew, good thing that's not at all remotely like the thing that i said

i clearly stated that the DS did it first and is responsible for being the first successful entertainment device with a touch screen leading to it becoming mainstream tech

it's obviously true

i can even go further with this. did you know that smartphones currently use ARM processors? the history of ARM processors goes all the way back to the Game Boy and the Super FX chips used in games such as Star Fox on SNES which were co-developed and funded by Nintendo with a company called Argonaut.

Current iPhones use the Apple A9 64-bit 1.85 GHz ARMv8-A dual-core CPU called Twister. This means the current iphone tech is literally using a beefed up version of the hardware used in Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, and DS that was originally pioneered by Nintendo.

smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech. prove me wrong. pro-tip: you can't

But they weren't, touch devices were already commonplace. Nintendo is just the first who successfully made one that said Nintendo on it. These things still existed and were still capable of simple games, and Nintendo just did a better version of that, and then other people did better versions of that, and then other people did better versions of that. If Nintendo wasn't the first, and it wasn't the best, and it wasn't the last, why arbitrarily create a finish line for them? "They're the first that did it for entertainment that got famous enough for me to decide it's one that matters".

Nintendo consoles, especially handhelds, don't sell great because they're revolutionary pieces of hardware anymore than GI Joes didn't sell in the 80s because they were revolutionary toys. They sold because they were targeted at kids and were affordable toys. That is why the DS and the Wii made money. Not because they were "ground breaking", because they weren't. The ground that the DS "broke" had already long since broken, even in the mainstream, even in terms of games (albeit simple ones), and the ground that the Wii broke was immediately filled back in because they were digging in the wrong place.

Nintendo is truly revolutionary in ****ing over Argonaut. The company that created the backbone that would serve Nintendo's second wind of games like Ocarina and Mario 64, tossed aside and given no recognition while Nintendo fanboys line up to celebrate.

I'm here for the roll call, I check in once in a while to see what's new overall. I'm usually on GK (as little as I am on), so if you see me online give me a shout.

Sorry for infringing on your Nintendo debate. Please continue since the Argonaut thing is news to me, and I find it quite interesting.

if you say so dude

once again, the lynchpin of your argument here is the implication that if the DS hadn't been successful then Apple would have never used a capacitive glass touch display in the iPhone. which again i and the vast majority of everyone ever would disagree with, but you do, and you are entitled to your opinion just as i am to mine and i guess.

[quote=Kamaerui can even go further with this. did you know that smartphones currently use ARM processors? the history of ARM processors goes all the way back to the Game Boy and the Super FX chips used in games such as Star Fox on SNES which were co-developed and funded by Nintendo with a company called Argonaut.

Current iPhones use the Apple A9 64-bit 1.85 GHz ARMv8-A dual-core CPU called Twister. This means the current iphone tech is literally using a beefed up version of the hardware used in Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, and DS that was originally pioneered by Nintendo.

smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech. prove me wrong. pro-tip: you can't[/QUOTE]

because the gameboy had accelerometers, gyroscopes, cellular radios and wifi, a built in GPU, fingerprint scanners, capacitive touchscreen, cameras, force feedback...

this is some hilariously bad faith arguing though, and so incredibly condescending. did you go to wikipedia to look up the full spec sheet on the A9?

"smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech" is the sort of argument people make on the playground in middle school or on gamefaqs, my man. support your argument by more than just citing a processor.

just to prove to you how absurd sounding your suggestion is: because the Wii used a PowerPC-based processor, it's Literally just a console using Apple/IBM/Motorola tech


god, this is tiring. you are tiring.

if you say so dude

once again, the lynchpin of your argument here is the implication that if the DS hadn't been successful then Apple would have never used a capacitive glass touch display in the iPhone. which again i and the vast majority of everyone ever would disagree with, but you do, and you are entitled to your opinion just as i am to mine and i guess.

because the gameboy had accelerometers, gyroscopes, cellular radios and wifi, a built in GPU, fingerprint scanners, capacitive touchscreen, cameras, force feedback...

this is some hilariously bad faith arguing though, and so incredibly condescending. did you go to wikipedia to look up the full spec sheet on the A9?

"smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech" is the sort of argument people make on the playground in middle school or on gamefaqs, my man. support your argument by more than just citing a processor.

just to prove to you how absurd sounding your suggestion is: because the Wii used a PowerPC-based processor, it's Literally just a console using Apple/IBM/Motorola tech


god, this is tiring. you are tiring.

I literally have not said this. All I said is that the DS is what made it mainstream.

Nintendo popularized the use of accelerometers and gyroscopes in consumer products. DS was the first mainstream game system to use Wi-Fi (PS3 and Xbox 360 both did not originally ship with wi-fi although Wii did). Game Boy literally, and I mean literally coined the meme of a selfie with the Game Boy Camera. You can cry about that all you want but it's a fact, I had Game Boy Camera as a kid. Apple copies the concepts which were developed in-house by Nintendo in their camera app to this day with filters and stickers that can be added to photos. Nintendo did that first.

Everything you have listed there is a freudian slip revealing your true intentions to talk about stuff without doing any research hoping nobody will notice.

Force feedback was pioneered in video games by Nintendo clearly. Cellular radios? Seriously I don't even know what you're referring to here but obviously it has nothing to do with video games, like fingerprint scanners.

What's wrong with that? It's true. Nintendo SNES used a Sony sound chip, you don't see me upset about that. It was awesome sound. But when I point out that Sony copies basically all of their stuff from Nintendo and continues to make that their core strategy to this day, you go into a tirade about how terrible Nintendo is.

Not sure if troll or just crazy.

yo

Just because you take a piece of technology and improve it doesn't mean you copied anything in all reality. Copying is taking a product and disrupting it with out modifications., you can't really Copy a concept if you built it from ground up.

In my honest opinion all these Gaming Platforms revolution'd off each other. Ganted Nintendo did come out with the first touch screen type game play, however people didn't buy there product because of this and although Nintendo got the "idea" from PDAs (Pocket Device Assistance) but improved on it. Apple was indeed the first to make people purchase there product because of this touch feature in which they updated 100 fold. Then Nintendo took that Idea and improved on it etc etc, this is how our world gets innovated on technology, there is always someone taking someone elses idea and says, "How can we take it 10 steps further". In my conclusion, the who copied who thing is moot, since they all build off each other.

Good example of this,
Apple tried to sue Samsung for taking the pinch zoom functionality and lost. Why? Because you can't patent a Idea as long as you didn't stone cold steal it.