Maybe some of the lower tier weapons released could be purchased with achievement coins, helping the newer players out a little bit.

An up-to-date spreadsheet of all guns would be sweet if there's one available! I recently started playing again and I'd love to be able to compare all gun options.

I know you can type the name of each gun into the server individually to check stats, but I don't know the names of all the guns :p

I think there was a live document on google docs or something at one point in time. Can't seem to find it though.

Could also go to the pawn-shop guy and go through clicking each gun and hitting 'Stats'.

This won't work for the handful of EC/MVP guns though.

Idk, all the links to spreadsheets I have are out of date.

Could you not copy the stats for spread from a similar gun like say ove for example? or is the sytem working the weapon that much different that even setting spread isn't uniform? I noticed you removed spread and i agree with that option until you figure it out. I personally like guns with low-no spread but i know the average player base doesn't. Just curious if you are still tweaking it and it is meant to have spread, or not? Just so i know what to expect since i plan on maining the gun for a while. Just waiting to see what the next set of releases brings to the table for my off hand gun. Sable is really good in the right hands but apparently those hands aren't mine so i sold it to seth :3.

No; the majority of guns on Era join to the weapons class and you just set variables with the numbers you see when you ask the NPC-Server for stats.

Tempest and Crizen's functionalities are all manually done in the weapon itself. I figured out where/how to modify the spread but I can't figure out how to make it exactly the same for all 4 directions, currently it's just shooting straight. :asleep:

Honestly it's fine shooting straight. I think it fits well when compared to Mp5sd. Mp5sd is the same firerate but full auto, 19 damage, fast reload and 30 shot clip. Tempest is semi auto, same firerate, 20 damage, regenerate-able clip. Having and mvp gun at which it pretty much matches with is probably a good thing balance wise. If you let it get too out of hand we are just going back down a dark path again anyways. As it sits now with the tweaks to energy regen and consumption it feels alot more viable, but without the spread doesn't feel over powered. I think you should just keep it like this.

Or if you do figure out the spread situation, make it auto and .25 firerate as to not just make it into an s6 that never reloads. Zilla seems to think that just cuz it is 1.2m that it should be above the rest, and i disagree. It should just be a slightly improved version of what already exists like Ares is.

I base my opinion on the stats for weapons off of 3 things;

In real life performance; I mean, stats need to some-what correlate with the gun itself, no one wants to buy a deagle in game and the gun is .2 fire rate with 15 damage.

Shop Value; Why would you buy a gun for $1,200,000 when it is as good as a gun you could buy for $900,000?

Tier level; We have a tier system in place to evaluate an equation of guns to see what level they are on and which guns they are compete-able with.

Since the Tempest is an energy gun (non-existent in real life) my opinion is solely based off of the other two; Tier Level and Shop Price. The "Tempest" was released in a new tier which currently a few guns sit in (God-Tier) which are well into the million dollar price range. I'm loving the gun as is, adding a little spread won't hurt but I could care-less either way. I think it's perfectly in-line and in-balanced with it's tier and price now after the tweaks Ishmael made. I could see it getting a slight spread but I don't see it as a priority.

A weapon is only as good as it's owner. If you slap a tempest into someones hands for example; "MunK3H" the Co-Owner of Gun Point, he won't stand a chance against a good 50% of the server.

Weapons are only as OP as you allow them to be in the hands of an elite. I'm very eager to see someone like Corey or William using the weapon.

Love this idea. It'll be a bit of work, but I'd be willing to go through the effort.

I don't know the plans for achievement coins, but I would be open to having guns purchasable not using money.

I 90% agree. The "real life" argument is easily lowest on my priority. You have no clue how many cries I got about the AA12 (look at how FAST it is IRL).
I just don't want to make an SMG into a handgun or something stupid.
But yeah, I think the tempest is balanced. Not super OP, but better than Navy.

dat call-out, tho.

Could probably use the item database to pull a list of all the guns and their statics. Paste the results into an Excel spreadsheet and let players check it out via web link.

You might be talking about this:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

but, yeah, it's as of 1.5 years ago lol.

Those old stats doe..... Lol Ump never got any attention back then even though ares is essentially the same thing and is now the "best gun".

I used the UMP as my main gun lol

yeah because you were one of the few people that saw its potential. i had one as well.

That's it! Though I don't remember all the pricing graphs and whatnot. And I have no idea what a Legendary MS is xd. Sounds legendary!