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Admins 12-08-2012 06:20 PM

We check if we can update the RC for Windows8 sometime, but not this year (less than one percent of the Windows players are using Windows8 right now).

fowlplay4 12-08-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1708987)
We check if we can update the RC for Windows8 sometime, but not this year (less than one percent of the Windows players are using Windows8 right now).

I would personally like to try Windows 8 but the lack of RC2 not working really ****s that up for me.

InfamousPride 12-08-2012 07:13 PM

So far I've seen 3 people on this post say that they are using Windows 8 and it doesn't work for them. That's a hell of a lot more than 1% of players on Graal much less Windows players xD. Last time I checked there are not 300+ active players.

scriptless 12-09-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by InfamousPride (Post 1708992)
So far I've seen 3 people on this post say that they are using Windows 8 and it doesn't work for them. That's a hell of a lot more than 1% of players on Graal much less Windows players xD. Last time I checked there are not 300+ active players.

My thought's exactly.. I know alot more then 3 people are using windows 8, plus other's would like to try it but because of lack of support for graal they don't. I am wondering if just recompiling it on a windows 8 machine would make it work. I had that problem with programs I made on XP not working on windows 7.. all I had to do was recompile it without changing code.

Also, if anyone has a Microsoft Surface Pro, let me know if Graal run's on it.. I am dying to see if it work's, how well, and if it would make for a development device..

xXziroXx 12-09-2012 12:56 AM

Wouldn't it be possible to run RC in compatibility mode to work around the bug mentioned in the thread? Sorry, but I didn't really read many posts before replying with this :<

NicoX 12-09-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1709025)
My thought's exactly.. I know alot more then 3 people are using windows 8, plus other's would like to try it but because of lack of support for graal they don't. I am wondering if just recompiling it on a windows 8 machine would make it work. I had that problem with programs I made on XP not working on windows 7.. all I had to do was recompile it without changing code.

Also, if anyone has a Microsoft Surface Pro, let me know if Graal run's on it.. I am dying to see if it work's, how well, and if it would make for a development device..

He probably count the Iphone Servers too. :D

fowlplay4 12-09-2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1709030)
Wouldn't it be possible to run RC in compatibility mode to work around the bug mentioned in the thread? Sorry, but I didn't really read many posts before replying with this :<

No, compatibility mode does nothing to fix it regardless of what you set it to.

SouFooOoO 12-10-2012 09:33 AM

I am also on Windows 8 and it doesn't work (no surprise). Tried running in compatibility mode and all that too. Would have been fine if Windows 8 had XP Virtual Machine, not sure why they took it out.

So... I am hoping for a fix on the external RC as the scripted RC doesn't have all the same functionality.

Anyways, Stefan, it doesn't matter if less than 1% of the Windows players are using Windows 8. Players don't use RC, the staff do. Really hard to do PR work without external RC for iEra.

Admins 12-10-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1709032)
He probably count the Iphone Servers too. :D

If we count also iphone servers then PC Graal is less than 4% x-x I meant Windows users.

scriptless 12-10-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1709169)
If we count also iphone servers then PC Graal is less than 4% x-x I meant Windows users.

But iPhone players can't play pc... and iPhone doesn't have staff tools.

And others have mentioned, if the RC worked they would be using windows 8.. so numbers of players who want to use Win8, and those that actually do are 2 different numbers too.

Also, not sure if I can post links to articles outside graal. But Microsoft has been talking about using SecureBoot. Basically they want to work with hardware manufacturers and lock your PC to windows 8 only once it's been installed.. they want to make you run signed code... they pretty much want to prevent pirating and malicious stuff at a more annoying level.

So if any of us get a new pc, and load Windows 8 onto it.. we might just get screwed with no chance of external rc for a long time.. :(

devilsknite1 03-20-2013 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1709169)
If we count also iphone servers then PC Graal is less than 4% x-x I meant Windows users.

Bumping this. Stefan, fix it. If a user said he could throw together a fix in a hex editor (assuming decompiler?) in 8 hours, it shouldn't be a problem for you to give it an update to have it work. You say ~4% of Graal users run Windows 8, but realize less than that percentile can actually develop what makes you money. Who's to say those people on Windows 8 don't have potential to make something that will attract more players or maybe even get you another beloved iPhone server? If we're paying you to develop our own servers with already existing flaws in the game's engine, and your solution is to use client-RC, I'd really rethink your business plan. Not to mention the comment about iPhone servers...

We're paying you money to develop things on our own time that ultimately gives us no reward outside of Graal. The very least we would expect you to do is give us **** that works.

Draenin 03-20-2013 02:12 AM

Hopefully this gets fixed soon. Not that I plan to use Windows 8 immediately or anything, but it would be nice for those who are.

TooTy 03-20-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1 (Post 1715192)
Bumping this. Stefan, fix it. If a user said he could throw together a fix in a hex editor (assuming decompiler?) in 8 hours, it shouldn't be a problem for you to give it an update to have it work. You say ~4% of Graal users run Windows 8, but realize less than that percentile can actually develop what makes you money. Who's to say those people on Windows 8 don't have potential to make something that will attract more players or maybe even get you another beloved iPhone server? If we're paying you to develop our own servers with already existing flaws in the game's engine, and your solution is to use client-RC, I'd really rethink your business plan. Not to mention the comment about iPhone servers...

We're paying you money to develop things on our own time that ultimately gives us no reward outside of Graal. The very least we would expect you to do is give us **** that works.

This. Now.

devilsknite1 03-20-2013 02:18 AM

Luckily I build my own computers so I can switch between and run multiple operating systems with ease, but most players probably don't have that luxury and bought a computer from a website, or a store which come installed with an operating system; normally windows. They all like to have the most recent version of windows so they aren't selling an outdated product, which would make sense that its population will inevitably grow as people purchase new computers... So saying that not enough people use it to release an update for broken software is lazy and incorrect imo.

Stowen 03-20-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by devilsknite1 (Post 1715197)
Luckily I build my own computers so I can switch between and run multiple operating systems with ease, but most players probably don't have that luxury and bought a computer from a website, or a store which come installed with an operating system; normally windows. They all like to have the most recent version of windows so they aren't selling an outdated product, which would make sense that its population will inevitably grow as people purchase new computers... So saying that not enough people use it to release an update for broken software is lazy and incorrect imo.

This. Fix your problems, Stefan. You wonder why PC Graal is dying so fast.:\


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