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Scoper 11-08-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1707249)
do i know you??
I did say i was taking a break from the graal forum but that was over 6 months ago!

No, you don't.
And okay @ the break bit.
I've made completely valid points though, so please drop your argument

Cow2001 11-08-2012 07:03 PM

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

Tim_Rocks 11-08-2012 07:05 PM

You sound like a man/women? who needs a time machine.

kia345 11-08-2012 07:10 PM

Cow sounds like someone with a point.

Every update, old things break and the UI gets worse.


It doesn't help that the client actually used to look like a game's menu before, now it looks like a kitsch flash game hub that I just might see advertised on Nick Jr.'s website.

Crono 11-08-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1707251)
i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

w0rd.

Scoper 11-08-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow2001 (Post 1707251)
i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?
Also, don't speak for all 'regular' players. I prefer v5 and v6 over previous versions, and am sure some others do as well.

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

Tim_Rocks 11-08-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1707257)
Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?
Also, don't speak for all 'regular' players. I prefer v5 and v6 over previous versions, and am sure some others do as well.

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

w0rd.

kia345 11-08-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1707257)
thousands of trial hackers

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

And that's why the improved security is a laughable point. There's nothing to secure.

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Scoper 11-08-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1707259)
I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

And that's why the improved security is a laughable point. There's nothing to secure.

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Ha, yeah, thousands might be a large overstatement. But,any hackers is still bad.

Tim_Rocks 11-08-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1707259)
I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

Uh, by thousands, he means a couple of players who just get banned over and over again. Sure the total could be a thousand, but it's really just a few players who get banned and keep coming back on another trial. And around the circle goes!

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1707259)
And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Uh, would you still rather be using GS1??

kia345 11-08-2012 07:26 PM

My favorite part about Tim's posts is that they only seem like applicable responses when they're in the form of tired memes

Tim_Rocks 11-08-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1707262)
My favorite part about Tim's posts is that they only seem like applicable responses when they're in the form of tired memes

http://t.qkme.me/4a31.jpg

kia345 11-08-2012 07:33 PM

That's subjectively better.

Tim_Rocks 11-08-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1707264)
That's subjectively better.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/24111835.jpg

<3

Crono 11-08-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1707257)
But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.

The only hacks that ruin our gameplay on Zod apparently still work on v6.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoper
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

Right, because v5 was totally pushed to its limit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoper
What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?

A good game, obviously.


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