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Originally Posted by TSAdmin
(Post 1590015)
Cats and mousse.
...We are moving onto mentioning two things that are dissimilar in topic now, right? Especially considering that Classic wasn't removed simply because of lack of development, which you obviously have yet to read up on.
Edit: Sign your reps, please. Things such as "You do a bad job of making people in your position seem competent" don't really make sense and I'd love to speak further on how sarcasm != ability to perform my duties competently.
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for the record, it wasn't me (:
and as for your sarcasm, i used classic as an example, and i don't wish to discuss classic's personal problems. the point is, classic has reliable development and had a stable playercount, and was removed. n-pulse has a non-stable staff (considering how many managers and other staff they go through), and a playercount made entirely of staff (all 5-7 of them) and still hasn't been removed for months. it's not logical, and i didn't need to read the multiple 20 page thread arguments to understand that point, so your negative rep was actually you not realizing the distinct difference to which i drew conclusions from
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Originally Posted by Bell
(Post 1590047)
As TSA said, the PWA has not even had the time to discuss the fate of NPulse. I will say this though. I do NOT take removal of servers from Classic tab lightly. We're in a difficult situation as it is trying to get quality, reliable development staff without adding more hardships onto a server.
While I don't recall the details of Delteria's removal I do still firmly support the idea of putting it back on tab once they feel they are ready.
Classic was put on UC by mutual agreement between myself and Thor. There was so much drama surrounding Classic that we both felt that by putting it UC he wouldn't have to worry about player support staffing and could focus on development alone. If I didn't feel that Thor would have the stamina to complete the effort I wouldn't of gone that route in the first place. So far its proven to be a good decision.
I've given Npulse some tools they asked for to help jumpstart their newest efforts and reduce some of the tedium. Thats not to say they won't still have a mountain of work to do but its up to them now to see it through. If they feel that going UC will make their life easier then I would move them immediately but unlike Classic they may not have a small core of dedicated staff to help in this and may not want that invisibility.
There was mention that this whole situation doesn't seem fair to UC servers. Why not? These other servers made their qualifications years ago and just because the playercount of Graal overall has dropped considerably they should not be held entirely to blame if they haven't been able to keep up. When people decided to rent and develop these new servers, they knew what they were in for (or should have) and its their turn to battle their way to the top. We encourage those servers along that are making a true effort at making a decent server but not all are even trying. All they want to do is snag some images and scripts from other servers, slap them together to make some minimum qualifications so they get to play manager.
Bottom line, what happens to NPulse isn't up for a public vote. The PWA will encourage them to keep things on track but don't expect any instant results.
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well you're just too cool for graal aren't you. we all know you'll do whatever you want, but that won't stop us from debating the topic, so you don't have to sound so coy in your remarks towards our discussion
and if you wanna play the "they made the effort beforehand" the requirements for classic tab now are much more rigorous than they were back when n-pulse was first put on the classic tab. those UC servers are paying a lot of money to get less than half the support than n-pulse receives for the same project, just because they made it to classic tab back in the day where a quest could consist of pulling a block out and killing a baddie
this isn't to say that n-pulse or any other server is entirely to blame for the drop in playercount - we know who's fault that is. but making them go UC seems plausible given the situation of their main server - it obvious by now that they cannot maintain both, so why even give them the option? hell, move them to hosted tab so they can get some more staff to help them get the server back to a playable state: that still gives them an advantage over the common UC server
but again, this isn't up for public vote. do whatever you please, we all know that it won't get them anywhere, and leaving a dead server on the classic list sure isn't helping graal out
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Originally Posted by ffcmike
(Post 1590051)
We decided to remain off the Classic tab with that action initially being taken as an ultimatum by PWA to come up with a definate direction, which it appears Npulse have decided on, we had no intention of maintaining both an up + an Under Construction project which I believe is something Npulse did intend to do, and we haven't released anything playable in the last few months (though something substantial is fairly imminent).
Edit : What Bell said.
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and what happens when they cannot seem to maintain that main server? is it really worth keeping their server up just because they asked for it? it could be understandable if they had even 10 active players who were not staff online, but they don't even have that!
and we've at least
seen the content you plan to release, while n-pulse has only given us rough percentages. and now that they've gone back to becoming a classic server, they have no answers for how to differentiate themselves from anything UN doesn't already do. their current main server, and any old backup they receive, is essentially a dead UN whose only goal could be to create a schism in UN's playercount
