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DustyPorViva 03-22-2010 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloven (Post 1564041)
I don't disagree, but that still doesn't really answer my question regarding the 'why' factor... what are some practical purposes for having them on a live server (other than selective conveniences)? The fact that an item in this case can be rendered relatively harmless does not necessarily justify its existence and subsequent usage. That's all I'm saying. :p

Why are they useful on an UC server and not a live server? ET's, for example, use them for monitoring events. On Classic, CTF's and such spanned multiple levels. It's easier for an ET to stay out of the way(on a tree), and to quickly navigate around to see what's going on. I mean... any instance is useful on a live server just as much as it is an UC server. Live servers get worked on(ya I know it's hard not to laugh at), too.

Cloven 03-22-2010 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1564045)
Why are they useful on an UC server and not a live server? ET's, for example, use them for monitoring events. On Classic, CTF's and such spanned multiple levels. It's easier for an ET to stay out of the way(on a tree), and to quickly navigate around to see what's going on. I mean... any instance is useful on a live server just as much as it is an UC server. Live servers get worked on(ya I know it's hard not to laugh at), too.

Two things:

- I agree and your particular example is one of the reasons why I personally allow staff boots (though I can still think of other non-boot tools that could be used instead).

- I only distinguish between live/dev solely out of ideology. The reality of course is that it doesn't matter if average players have the ability to access either.



Just wanted to play devil's advocate a bit, in any regard. Thanks for the discussion. :)

DarkCloud_PK 03-22-2010 08:36 AM

seriously if you are honestly crying so hard about staff walking on some walls, you have some serious priority issues in your life.

no one cares.

James 03-22-2010 09:04 AM

ya just imagine your dreaming

Imperialistic 03-22-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK (Post 1564072)
seriously if you are honestly crying so hard about staff walking on some walls, you have some serious priority issues in your life.

no one cares.

Do you think I'm really crying hard or whining about it? I'm just so curious on the point of having them for non-dev staff pretty much.

Thanks for the advice though.

xAndrewx 03-22-2010 10:03 AM

the real question is "What's the point in FAQ's!"

Demisis_P2P 03-22-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1564090)
the real question is "What's the point in FAQ's!"

Right on.

If you design your server well then FAQs are totally unnecessary.

Crow 03-22-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1564105)
Right on.

If you design your server well then FAQs are totally unnecessary.

If that'd be the case, the FAQ position wouldn't be necessary anymore. But there will always be a need for a small team of maybe one to three people solving all kinds of issues the devs shouldn't handle in the first place anyway. GPs usually do that though.

DarkCloud_PK 03-22-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic (Post 1564087)
Do you think I'm really crying hard or whining about it? I'm just so curious on the point of having them for non-dev staff pretty much.

Thanks for the advice though.

Non-dev graal staff only get 'paid' with power and popularity for their volunteer work.
Other than that, unless you get a boner from helping people as a FAQ or controlling the masses as a GP, what is the point to even apply for these positions? To get a shiny staff tag and some toys. Unless a system is worked out either on a local or global scale to pay players for their contributions as staff in some other method besides this, it isn't going to change.

Edit: Anyone that says they apply for FAQ or GP to help the players is full of ****.

jorollychu 03-22-2010 11:42 PM

I agree all staff should have reset ban it would definitely mean incompetents like all of UN and era would not be hired

DarkCloud_PK 03-22-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jorollychu (Post 1564242)
I agree all staff should have reset ban it would definitely mean incompetents like all of UN and era would not be hired

I agree that you should stop posting on the forums.

salesman 03-23-2010 12:42 AM

Era awards ECs to FAQs, ETs, PRs, and GPs for being on tag...but it's barely anything.

Vman13x 03-23-2010 02:10 AM

I made like 10 or more probably ecs off of being an et on era lol. Though 7 hours to get 1 ec is hardly an award, but whatever :D


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