There is no debate AT ALL whether default systems should be put back or not. It's what is needed. The HD issue is the biggest concern that we even have people fighting about switching the HD over in events that it creates such a ruckus. I have no clue why Night made the toggable HD's but it's in now and it will cause a lot of *****ing to take it out.

DC, I've said before people aren't using the default hd ares because the server is NOT in default. That makes no sense just to go to Classic and use their default hd when their events are on some other HD.

As far as levels go, you already know the deal on it. Quests can be converted but as far as the whole overworld, thats asking too much.

Tyhm,

What is on...

exodus_inside_08.nw

...that makes it a default hit detection?

Can it be done to the rest of the server?

Tyhm?

Shows exactly how out of touch you are with Classic to think Tyhm has any involvement here.

Because he can check and answer my question. You can but will you is the question.

...how would Tyhm be able to check?

Tyhm doesn't have RC on classic.
Tyhm isn't versed with Classic's systems at all.
He is still learning GS2, and probably wouldn't be able to make out half of whats going on.

Bell said his tools were still available there. I misunderstood, thought he had access.

thats obviously not the case since I beat you on your clientside garbage.
its about the feel of graal.
this HD system only takes classic back to the stone age of 56k since it feels like lag and looks so awkward when hit.

I will admit that the default HD in exos spar feels super smooth though.

beating me in a spar is not hard lol

I agree. :fro: (exodus_inside_08.nw)

i'm pretty sure he does

It's been made crystal clear time and time again within this thread and many older threads that it can not,
neither can it just be uploaded as part of the old levels.
This is not an opinion, this is a fact, and from somebody who knows.

I find it funny that throughout all of your arguements you've referred to the issue as bringing back the Default "Hit Detection", while I am keen on the idea of Developing with Default Systems on a seperate server, it's not for the sake of the Hit Detection, it's for the sake of encouraging work towards improving the server, and what's to say that if we did somehow bring it back you wouldn't just keep playing on some of the other servers that use the Default HD?, what's to say that if we did try something wreckless like you've been suggesting which were to ruin the server that it would be any loss to you whatsoever?

If you really want Default Systems back, be it for Development reasons or for the sake of Hit Detection, you need to start thinking constructively,
and to consider reasonal options which might actually be possible, if not already being pushed,
this thread proves nothing and is going nowhere.

And if there was content to support the HD, then Classic's playercount would improve.

Nonetheless with state that current Classic is; we need more Classic Graal The Adventure flavor.

To start:

1. I'd still like to see all spar areas with the default HD.
2. Fix the 'focus on' setting to EACH of the exsiting spar rooms.
3. Upgrade the main sparring house, 'Battle Arena'. If it's SuperNick's again, so be it, but make sure each level is up to date and current with scripts and player friendly on viewing spars taking place. And most importanly have a 'join spar' and 'i call winner' feature as well as the above suggestions, 1-2.
3. Make a default HD PK level (i.e. Angel Clan.).
4. Make more ani's AND emotes like the shift h (utilize shift 1-9 as emotes and shift all other letters for anis..)
5. And make a hat economy like UN offers. Place random hats, and give out hats of anyones choosing as a sign on bonus, limit 5.

To address the hat economy, I already can hear the arguements; "this is not UN."
But in reality, my only arguement is that it's actually quite the oppisite.
Unholy Nation IS Classic, and both are Graal.
Graal evolution is Graal Kingdoms and Zone.
UN is just another server that had creative players make what Classic already had to offer, only Classic's development never continued in this direction.

When Pepsi makes a product does Coke make something similar if it works?

(Burger King - McDonald's) (Neighboring gas station prices.) (Bank fees.)

Competition - It's moving with the change in the right direction.

And finally I just want to address the part where you claimed this poll wasn't contructive;

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wow contego LOL

Unholy Nation IS Classic, and both are Graal <--- *****

5. And make a hat economy like UN offers. Place random hats, and give out hats of anyones choosing as a sign on bonus, limit 5.

that suggestion is just dumb 0_0 classic do not need to look like UN

If you're trying to make Classic into Unholy Nation, then I don't know why you're not just trying to get Unholy Nation to improve itself.