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Well its just safe to bet money on now classic being thrown into the ****ter again for a couple of more years. I wouldn't expect anything to good now that we have two people who are not capable of managing as our managers. Hoorah!
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"This tile looks like it's been inactive for 4 years" but since merely being on the server didn't seem to be productively moving anything along, it was a good thing that the people still had a voice. The moments in which I was able to get in contact with a tiny mass of people on Classic at one time, all I got were a 3-4 man strong set of "DC Supporters" who only moaned and complained how they wanted DC as Manager, but honestly avoided most of my questions by giving deflective answers, so I knew that DC would never get manager as he were one of the people in the room, as well. You can't hope to reach the top if you deflect everything. This, in-turn, left only 1 real aspect to fulfil which was to just speak to those who would speak, and Bell summed that up pretty well. When given the chance, I had quite a few people simply say "I'll post it on the forum thread later" who never did, and never showed up again. Quote:
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Feel free to point out that this is my opinion of his actions. You'd be right, but what, exactly, DOES it take before it's severe enough without just plain being "corrupt"? There is no clear rule to go by here, it's all based on opinion of severity. Clearly myself and a lot of others think that what has transpired IS enough. The time involved is BEYOND ridiculous. |
I think I might have called the outcome of this thread somewhere... but before I make some long winded posts to further sidetrack this thread, I want to get my facts straight first...
First off, I want to see the results (by account name) from the poll house on Classic, preferably posted by Storm, or a member of the PWA (I don't want to run the risk of the results being tampered with). Just post the list of who voted for what option. I do this because I call the validity of the poll results into question. I spent some time 'idling' in the poll house and seen a number of players warped in and told to vote against the PWA decision. I would even bet that there is a second or even third account used by the 'whiners' to further influence the results. Secondly, I'd like to know why some of the issues players are bringing up now regarding the validity of the PWA review weren't addressed from the very beginning (such as "the PWA don't play Classic, how can they make a decision"). Thirdly, I'd like to point out that the two primary 'whiners' had some personal agenda regarding who should replace Storm, and insist on causing this drama after the decision (with the help of a lacky or two). |
Reading this thread is very disappointing.
I really hope that all of you will find a way to accept the PWA's decision, and try to work together for the better of Classic. |
I'm probably going to be rambling again, but after seeing 4 pages added since I last checked this thread this morning, it would seemingly fit in.
Look. What's done is done. The PWAs have made their decision, right or wrong, and we have to stick with it. The players asked for a review of management, hoping for the removal of storm. The PWAs decided that, upon 'extensive' review, that storm could indeed still do his job, but he needed some help from someone a bit more active. Thus the solution of two managers was decided upon. As far as I know, these are the facts. Now obviously some people have questioned the way in which this review occurred. They got opinions from some people, but not all. They got opinions from some admins, but not all. But lets be realistic here. It'd be nearly impossible to get the opinion of every single person who played classic. Apparently some admins were left out by accident, though I'm not sure how that can happen. Then again, we all make mistakes. The problem I found with the review is that when the PWAs asked 'who would be a good manager', they really left a lot of open room. Who exactly was qualified? Who exactly wanted the job in the first place? What would that person actually (or at least promise) do as manager? The problem I saw is that many people knew they wanted a new manager, but weren't exactly sure who they wanted. Some people, such as DC, actively promoted themselves and listed a few things they would try to do. Other people suggested Thor, stryker, kat, or sometimes rufus. The problem was, most of these candidates never posted (at least that I saw) their credentials or their plans for the server, if they wanted the job at all. So as far as I can tell, we had the majority of the playerbase wanting a new manager, but wasn't exactly sure who. Thus the PWAs were left scratching their heads, and eventually settled on the decision that they did. IMO, though the 2 manager system could work out, it probably wasn't the best solution. In a review of management, the PWAs should review whether the manager in question can do his job or not. If the answer is yes, then that person should be left as manager. If the answer is no, then that manager needs to be removed completely. Then, they need to gather up all the qualified people and see if they are interested in the job. Of those that are, they need to hold a week-long poll/discussion about who the people think the best manager would be. The potentials would present their plan in a thread, and both the PWAs and players would vote for the next manager. If they came to the same conclusion, then we would have a new manager. If not, they would need to see why the people thought person A was more qualified than Person B, who was picked by the PWAs, and then discuss it more and then come to a decision. At least, thats how I think a review should go. The players, if presented a list, should know who they'd want to take their server into the future. The PWAs, if presented a list, should be able to figure out (with investigations) who the best person would be. That's not how it was done, and its too late to change it. Let us forget about these PWAs and focus on our future. If we work hard enough, perhaps we'll never have to ask them for their 'assistance' again, since apparently all they create is massive forum arguments. I respect the PWAs and all, since holding a review of a server they don't play certainly isn't easy. But with results and backlash like this, maybe they need to rethink how they handle these reviews. Nonetheless, we must now make due with what we have, which is two managers. |
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Still haven't been offered any explanation as to why I was completely overlooked on two aspects of this review. Apologies are cheap, reasons why are worth more. |
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So.. when's the old content going to be converted and uploaded?
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looking back, thor was an excellent choice for manager but having 2 managers is ****ing stupid. when ibonic became comanager with storm production slowed down even more.
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Thor is a blind fool, who does only what he thinks is right. No communication skills (even i can type better, then he communicates with the people of classic) Master Storm is a inactive fool, who has a perfect excuse for everything, and sums away every suggestion made by the players, because he also thinks HIS GOAL is the ULTIMATE GOAL. conclusion: 2 stupid people were selected to lead classic to a place where it already was, which is at the bottom of the drain. This choice was made by people who could be my freakin lil brothers of 5 year old. I mean Bell is over 50 years old, and she let 2 kiddo's decide what's best for classsic, while she is a classic player from the beginning. Every choice that has been made in the last 5 years, has been the wrong one. And all the people who made these choices for the server should be fired and banned from graal. They made classic what it is now, a pile of poop. Assign some people who are new, who share classic moments, and are willing to listen to the community of classic, and maybe add stuff that the players made. Back in the days staff always added stuff made by the user. Nowadays they just follow their own agenda, they are full of their own greed. It's time someone steps up and put them on their number. So here's my ****list: -Thor -Master Storm -Ibonic -Xiao_Dun (or whoever he is) -Tig -TSAdmin And here is my wishlist: -Tyhm -Stryker -Night -Bell. That's about it. |
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