We complained about an inactive manager, now we are complaining about an inappropriate manager and a bad staff structure. They're pretty different issues, but one was the effect of something that you caused and the other was due to neglect. What do you think a manager does?

Obvious differences between being a player and being staff? Yeah? Then how come nearly ever player on Classic that is talking in this thread, if not EVERY SINGLE ONE is currently or has been staff at one or more points.

So you're basically admitting that the players of Classic know better than you do about their own server, to some extent, but because they're players (which.. well, see above points) their word is untrustworthy/less important to you? There was an obvious majority opinion on what the players were saying, and it was pretty obvious what the overall message was too.

You guys have the right to be angry, the decision was fuxed up and all, but arguing with Tig is a waste, you can break it down and have him realize his decision was wrong or whatever, but what will it do?

What we need is to understand the advantages of their decision and see what we can do to make this decision, even if you think it's complete bullocks, a smart one.

the puppet master reveals himself

You act as though I'm the only one who has those questions.

Just stop it, no one person is to blame. There's enough fighting and drama going on without you guys starting to attack each other too

Considering what the players have said, or hell, what most of everyone has been saying. Then considering the outcome of the month long 'review' and the response from the PWA members, mostly Tig, that followed.

All of this seems like one gigantic middle finger to the populace of Classic.

What outcome would of satisfied everyone?

pull the plug

No one outcome can satisfy everyone.
However, there was one big resounding message in this thread for the first 20 pages that seems to have been largely ignored.
I don't know how to answer that question on behalf of the majority without sounding like I'm 'tooting my own horn'.

you're joking, right?

I saw about 6 people say DC for manager, many of whom were probably manipulated by their master.

By all means, toot.

Are you really that mad that I helped your lifetime ban stick?

are you really that stupid that you're unable to go back and do a simple tally?

Pretty sure the PWA did a tally of players voting on who they would like to see as manager, and why they would like to see them as manager.

Certainly more than 6.