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Frankie 07-12-2009 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1506260)
1 EC is 1000 arrows? LOL

well 1 ec is 10 flak shells, which is 1000 shots.
both should be switched. 1 ec = 1 shell / 100 arrows.

Pelikano 07-13-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1506276)
well 1 ec is 10 flak shells, which is 1000 shots.
both should be switched. 1 ec = 1 shell / 100 arrows.

Well 1 EC should be 100 Shurikens aswell then

Scary_Sock 07-13-2009 07:46 PM

Oink.

Frankie 07-13-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1506715)
Well 1 EC should be 100 Shurikens aswell then

I'm pretty sure that's what it is unless they changed it. I was the one who put them in the EC shop and I remember doing 1 ec for 100.

Nataxo 07-13-2009 08:22 PM

Shurikens are still 1 EC for 100 :P

Pelikano 07-13-2009 10:28 PM

I was trying to say 1000, sorry lol

The411 07-13-2009 11:41 PM

Since this problem can easily be solved via the supply of ammunition towards the gun i'll change the prices of the EC items.

As of today,

Shurikens have gone from 100 to 1000.
Throwing knives have gone from 200 to 1500.
Caltrops have gone from 30 to 100.

Flak Shells have gone from 10 to 1 (Meaning 100 shots)
Arrows have gone from 1000 to 100 (Which is again 100 shots)

Which means go buy those Shurikens and Throwing knives cause they're pretty cheap and fun to play with.
:noob:

Vman13x 07-14-2009 03:35 AM

Honestly quit crying, theres always going to be a time where someone who had enough ecs was not on to buy an item so stop arguing about it.

The411 07-14-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The411 (Post 1506812)
Flak Shells have gone from 10 to 1 (Meaning 100 shots)
Arrows have gone from 1000 to 100 (Which is again 100 shots)

I've decided to change Flak shells from 10 to 3 (Meaning 300 shots)

Since the Flak was originally 200ECs and the bow was 120EC's it'd be unfair to group them in the same category. Even though they're both equally lame, the Flak does tend to spam ammo faster, and 1 EC for 100 shots would be sort unreasonable.

I'll give arrows 1 EC for 150 just to make it a little more fair.

BlueMelon 07-14-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The411 (Post 1506812)
Since this problem can easily be solved via the supply of ammunition towards the gun i'll change the prices of the EC items.

As of today,

Shurikens have gone from 100 to 1000.
Throwing knives have gone from 200 to 1500.
Caltrops have gone from 30 to 100.

Flak Shells have gone from 10 to 1 (Meaning 100 shots)
Arrows have gone from 1000 to 100 (Which is again 100 shots)

Which means go buy those Shurikens and Throwing knives cause they're pretty cheap and fun to play with.
:noob:

o.O 1000 and 1500 for 1 ec? woah.

hehe good thing i was in Ninja :D I have lots of shurikens left ;)

Pelikano 07-14-2009 02:41 PM

Shurikens should be made droppable again :O

No need not to be droppable ;)

Spikedude 07-14-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1506995)
Shurikens should be made droppable again :O

No need not to be droppable ;)

Originally, all events items were going to be undroppable. (Years ago)

DuBsTeRmAn 07-14-2009 04:55 PM

Well years ago era was way different then now..

BlueMelon 07-14-2009 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1507015)
Well years ago era was way different then now..

Mhm.

Frankie 07-14-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikedude (Post 1507010)
Originally, all events items were going to be undroppable. (Years ago)

yeah, I made it that way so event coins and event items wouldn't be involved with the economy, but people *****ed (what else is new?) so it was changed.

Frankie9011 07-15-2009 12:00 AM

Flak was actually 250 ecs, not 200. More than double what a bow cost, yet the only advantage the flak has to the bow is range, compared to bow having many more advantages. Oh well =/

Pelikano 07-15-2009 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie9011 (Post 1507169)
Flak was actually 250 ecs, not 200. More than double what a bow cost, yet the only advantage the flak has to the bow is range, compared to bow having many more advantages. Oh well =/

25 dmg
no reload
undodgeable

Frankie9011 07-15-2009 12:13 AM

25 damage, no reload, incredibly low freeze, faster fire rate.
Compared to flak, having slightly longer range, more freeze, reload after 10 shots, and 15 damage. Lol.
To think I could have two bows instead.

Also,
the bow and flak are both "undodgeable" ..... the whole reason why the flak and bow are powerful weapons is because the "bullets" travel much faster than standard shots, meaning if i shoot you within range it will almost always hit, compared to other bullets traveling slower where you can actually physically dodge the shots.

But the fact is, 25 damage hurts a lot more than 15. Especially when you cant trip them up while reloading, or be safe behind a wall. The whole weapon is broken. If someone who was half decent at pking owned a bow it would successfully break pking.

Vman13x 07-17-2009 05:02 PM

I find the flak way way way more harder to dodge than the bow, I can usually dodge the bow in a spar, sometimes in pking, but rarely in raids.

BlueMelon 07-17-2009 05:16 PM

Why not make the bow simmilar to GK's Bow with a reload? its still powerful, maybe lower the dmg to 15 because no one can shoot a bow that fast.

Vman13x 07-17-2009 05:19 PM

Make the snowcannon able to freeze people, like a 30 percent chance youll get slowed down, that way it can compete with the flamer. Also make it easier to put out the fire.

Pelikano 07-17-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1508083)
Make the snowcannon able to freeze people, like a 30 percent chance youll get slowed down, that way it can compete with the flamer. Also make it easier to put out the fire.

You could DIG OUT the Snow Cannon.
The Flamer was 150 EC.


Your IQ is lower than my cat's poop.

Vman13x 07-18-2009 02:54 AM

Im guessing your iq is lower than your cats poop, considering NEITHER of them can be bought with ecs or dug out now. There were also only a limit number of snowcannons released.

I swear you get dumber everyday.

MontyPython 07-18-2009 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1508248)
Im guessing your iq is lower than your cats poop, considering NEITHER of them can be bought with ecs or dug out now. There were also only a limit number of snowcannons released.

I swear you get dumber everyday.

Aside from the fact that the snow cannon is a novelty toy at best with horribly ****ty graphics, and the flamethrower is an actual weapon.

By your logic:
You can't buy a sten in a store anymore, so I suppose we should make that comparable to an MP5 Navy, BAR, and Desert Raven, right? They're all guns that had a limited amount released, and they all shoot bullets. I'll be damned if I know why they aren't all equal.

Aldaris 07-18-2009 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1508248)
Im guessing your iq is lower than your cats poop, considering NEITHER of them can be bought with ecs or dug out now. There were also only a limit number of snowcannons released.

I swear you get dumber everyday.

He said "You could dig out the Snow Cannon."
He said "The Flamer was 150 EC."

If he said "You can dig out the Snow Cannon."
If he said "The Flamer is 150 EC."

Then you might have an argument.

MontyPython 07-18-2009 03:35 AM

If they ever remove the broken bottle from stores, I guess it's going to have to be comparable to the lightsaber.

BlueMelon 07-18-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontyPython (Post 1508263)
If they ever remove the broken bottle from stores, I guess it's going to have to be comparable to the lightsaber.

Haha

Venom_Fish 08-16-2009 02:45 PM

Then I'd suggest you don't try to silence me, its counterproductive to your point. Peewee.


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