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kia345 07-26-2009 05:28 AM

Me and Majin were throwing this around: KJ and ZSoH are two of the only shields made of adamant on the server. When you think of an adamant shield, you think of pretty much lugging around a heavily enchanted wall the deflects PAIN. In reality, both of these shields have a lousy ac coupled with a single, okay stat. Dustari on the other hand has a nice Str+1 and Speed+1, and CP has Str +1 and +2 ac, letting you block more hits, and land more of your own. ZSoH has Wis and Pow, and that's it, which is nice for being a stationary mage (who somehow needs to avoid taking physical damage), and KJ has +1 Con and +1 ac, which really just lets you get hit one more time as opposed to avoiding more hits.

Kurenai Joukai Shield
Current: Con +1, ac +1
Revised: Con +1, ac +2 or 3

Zormite Shield of Honor
Current: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +1
Revised: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +2 or 3

MajinDragon 07-26-2009 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1510419)
Me and Majin were throwing this around: KJ and ZSoH are two of the only shields made of adamant on the server. When you think of an adamant shield, you think of pretty much lugging around a heavily enchanted wall the deflects PAIN. In reality, both of these shields have a lousy ac coupled with a single, okay stat. Dustari on the other hand has a nice Str+1 and Speed+1, and CP has Str +1 and +2 ac, letting you block more hits, and land more of your own. ZSoH has Wis and Pow, and that's it, which is nice for being a stationary mage (who somehow needs to avoid taking physical damage), and KJ has +1 Con and +1 ac, which really just lets you get hit one more time as opposed to avoiding more hits.

Kurenai Joukai Shield
Current: Con +1, ac +1
Revised: Con +1, ac +2 or 3

Zormite Shield of Honor
Current: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +1
Revised: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +2 or 3

I'd say ac +3 on both considering pirate shield has ac+2 and is made of metal.

Vincent3313 07-26-2009 06:39 AM

Red Belt of Damage?
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
-Considering I got this off Graal Lib, I'm not sure if it's up to date.
I've never seen anyone with this, so I'm sure it's somewhat rare. Why such crappy stats? If they went out of there way to put the Damage part of it, shouldn't they have much more then that? It should have at least 3 damage. And possibly a little more fire resistance?

Red Belt of Damage
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
Revised: Dam+3, Ac+1, Resist Fire + 15

Craigus 07-26-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent3313 (Post 1510427)
Red Belt of Damage?
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
-Considering I got this off Graal Lib, I'm not sure if it's up to date.
I've never seen anyone with this, so I'm sure it's somewhat rare. Why such crappy stats? If they went out of there way to put the Damage part of it, shouldn't they have much more then that? It should have at least 3 damage. And possibly a little more fire resistance?

Red Belt of Damage
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
Revised: Dam+3, Ac+1, Resist Fire + 15

I think i have a few :p they were free easter belts i have black belt of weapons orange belt of speed and blue belt of armour to, something along those lines

BigBear3 07-26-2009 03:47 PM

Green Sahuagin Coat
Current stats: none

Revised Stats: Cha+30

I mean come on.. Look at it.

MajinDragon 07-27-2009 12:17 AM

Easter Basket
Current: speed+1 ac+1 sustenance+5 (made of: metal)
Revised: speed+1 ac+1 luck+2 sustenance+20 (made of: leather, organics)
Reason:
Very rare, 3 of a kind and to my knowledge will stay like that, sus is a stat that isn't quite common and it's a basket of foot essentially... easters a time usually associated with good luck, this easter definately was, i was suprised to not see luck on this shield.

Gothika 07-27-2009 12:38 AM

If you want to add more stats then atleast only 1 luck.

woofer102000 07-28-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousymee (Post 1504277)
Current: Pirate gloves (wc+1)
Revised: Pirate gloves (wc+1) (dmg +2)

Justification: They're kingdom items they shouldn't be worse than havocs. Samurai boots are already better than pirate boots, gloves should be on par

yesplz

Need something to make them better than havoks/marks

MajinDragon 07-28-2009 09:50 PM

Okay these are two suggestions for swords.

Red Xmas Scarf
Current: no stats
Revised: Cha+2 resist cold+15

Justificaition: Nice looking, without stats and quite rare nowdays (i'm led to believe). No harm in these stats that obviously relate to the item.

kia345 04-09-2010 06:02 PM

Why wasn't this thread taken seriously? Fix existing items, stop adding new toys to make the old ones inferior.

MajinDragon 04-09-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1568108)
Why wasn't this thread taken seriously? Fix existing items, stop adding new toys to make the old ones inferior.

Hear hear!

Seeya 04-10-2010 12:18 AM

I'd want one speed added to ZsoH just to have an epic shield, but i don't really have a justification besides the fact i own one. uh.

I say we need to just add magic+ to a lot of mage gear, we're deprived of it. People have to change there whole setups just to get some magic+ if they don't depend on magic rings.

sango_ku 04-10-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousymee (Post 1504277)
Current: Pirate gloves (wc+1)
Revised: Pirate gloves (wc+1) (dmg +2)

Justification: They're kingdom items they shouldn't be worse than havocs. Samurai boots are already better than pirate boots, gloves should be on par

Quote:

Originally Posted by woofer102000 (Post 1511166)
yesplz

Need something to make them better than havoks/marks

I agree with that !

sengir 04-10-2010 03:39 PM

The havoks are fine right now. But the marks could get a bit of wc and it would rock! And for the Easter Basket, being that its 3 of a kind it should have awesome stats and kick ass :) Now I just need one to match my Bunny Suit and a tail....

Conqueror 04-10-2010 04:08 PM

You know that cape that takes 3 EC's to make? They should but like.. 15 sustenance on that thing. I'd love a sus cape.. teehee

MajinDragon 04-10-2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sengir (Post 1568334)
The havoks are fine right now. But the marks could get a bit of wc and it would rock! And for the Easter Basket, being that its 3 of a kind it should have awesome stats and kick ass :) Now I just need one to match my Bunny Suit and a tail....

marks are also fine :p
Easter Basket just needs to be made of organics & leather and if any boost in stats just luck possibly some extra sus as sus ammy has more sus & is spawnable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conqueror (Post 1568338)
You know that cape that takes 3 EC's to make? They should but like.. 15 sustenance on that thing. I'd love a sus cape.. teehee

Aurum Garb, yea the stats suck thoroughly, really does need to be looked at. When cloaks were released, all cloaks were seen as understandably average stat wise, offering simple resists. When word broke out of a cloak that took 3ec's to make, everyone safely assumed it had better stats than all the other cloaks. Infact it was the worst cloak of all... Should have been looked over alot sooner.

BigBear3 04-10-2010 07:50 PM

Pow+7 on Sceptre of Darkness

sango_ku 04-10-2010 08:37 PM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134257012

We have already talk to CP glove stat... so i think its tme to do anything :D

kia345 04-10-2010 08:41 PM

Zormite Equipment
Current: nonexistent
Revised: existent

MajinDragon 04-10-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sango_ku (Post 1568369)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134257012

We have already talk to CP glove stat... so i think its tme to do anything :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1539651)
Well, I don't think it needs to have wc on it unless we remove ac from it. Maybe it could have some magical resistances or so, or maybe damage.

He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

Gothika 04-10-2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1568373)
He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

He said "it doesn't need wc"...

ALL THEY HAVE IS WC!

BigBear3 04-10-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1568373)
He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

...What the hell?

StormYs 04-10-2010 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1568375)
He said "it doesn't need wc"...

ALL THEY HAVE IS WC!

Lol, it should be statless.

nullify 04-10-2010 11:57 PM

I want wood bracers that are made of wood. :(

MajinDragon 04-11-2010 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1568375)
He said "it doesn't need wc"...

ALL THEY HAVE IS WC!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1568376)
...What the hell?

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormYs (Post 1568392)
Lol, it should be statless.

He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

vidar 04-11-2010 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saetarshadowflare (Post 1504167)
Forest shield current: pow +1 speed +1
Forest shield Revised: dex +1 speed +1 resist poison +20

Why pow? If forest is supposed to represent elves, it should represent their speed and their natural resistance to poison, not power, they have all pretty much vanished because of their stats, and decent stats couldnt hurt it.

Fear needs to work as well...seriously...

why power? because elves are fast magical forest creatures der xP
forest shield:
current: power+1 speed+1 ac+1 (Armour +53)
revised: strength-1 power+1 speed+2 ac+1 (armour +50)(resist poison +25)

reason: elves are not known for their strength. but for their magical nature and their speed. the resist poison is because well it's a forest shield and if you are a part of the forest or even something forged of the forest u would think it would be either poisonous or can resist poison.

kia345 04-11-2010 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidar (Post 1568402)
magical nature and their speed

Forest are wood elves, not the "high elves" with impressive magic. If anything, they'd have wis/dex. Pow is already Zormite's stat we're landed with.

Seeya 04-11-2010 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidar (Post 1568402)
why power? because elves are fast magical forest creatures der xP
forest shield:
current: power+1 speed+1 ac+1 (Armour +53)
revised: strength-1 power+1 speed+2 ac+1 (armour +50)(resist poison -25)

reason: elves are not known for their strength. but for their magical nature and their speed. the resist poison is because well it's a forest shield and if you are a part of the forest or even something forged of the forest u would think it would be either poisonous or can resist poison.

rofl i'm pretty sure aengus, the elf god, reduces poison resistance.

more buffs for vidar though ofc

vidar 04-11-2010 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568406)
rofl i'm pretty sure aengus, the elf god, reduces poison resistance.

more buffs for vidar though ofc

more buffs? rofl when has anything i have been buffed? fkin tard xP i got my wand AFTER it's stats. and the poison resist is based on forest not elves specifically.
think before u speak dumb@$$
-strength is totally a buff too .. fkin idiot

as to kia's post wood elves as part of the high elves. who all retreated to the forest during the elf/dwarven wars.

kia345 04-11-2010 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidar (Post 1568407)
as to kia's post wood elves as part of the high elves. who all retreated to the forest during the elf/dwarven wars.

High Elves wouldn't associate with that earthy riff-raff!

vidar 04-11-2010 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1568411)
High Elves wouldn't associate with that earthy riff-raff!

lol earthly? xP the king and queen of the wood elves are two diety's.
and they are magic. they use the magic of the Athel Loren forest and their own to defend against invaders and build cities

Seeya 04-11-2010 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidar (Post 1568407)
more buffs? rofl when has anything i have been buffed? fkin tard xP i got my wand AFTER it's stats. and the poison resist is based on forest not elves specifically.
think before u speak dumb@$$
-strength is totally a buff too .. fkin idiot

as to kia's post wood elves as part of the high elves. who all retreated to the forest during the elf/dwarven wars.

y so harsh

i think everyone is tired of hearing you on here though.

vidar 04-11-2010 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568421)
y so harsh

i think everyone is tired of hearing you on here though.

rofl ok goodbye
if ya'll feel that way xP

MajinDragon 04-11-2010 01:03 PM

Woah... tension.

kia345 04-11-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1568466)
Woah... tension.

sort of like with you and dusty huh

MajinDragon 04-11-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1568471)
sort of like with you and dusty huh

There's no tension between me and Dustari.

Crono 04-11-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1568471)
sort of like with you and dusty huh

hay leave dusty out of dis. :(

Seeya 04-11-2010 09:51 PM

I think we need more +2 speed boots, right now, off the top of my head, i can only think of Bakers, but who knows where those are.

with this said,
original:Pirate Boots (ac+2) (speed+1) (armour +5)
new: Pirate Boots (ac+2)(speed+2)(dex-1)

I would do Dustari boots, but i'd recognize CP Boots as rarer then Dustari Boots.

kia345 04-11-2010 10:08 PM

Drop Pirate's ac. Dusty boots are knight's, armor boots. Pirate's are leather. I'd fine with them being speedier if Dusty's were more armored.

Seeya 04-11-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1568542)
Drop Pirate's ac. Dusty boots are knight's, armor boots. Pirate's are leather. I'd fine with them being speedier if Dusty's were more armored.

oman good idea


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