I really do hope you can prove me wrong, because I don't know about the rest of you but I'm sick of disappointment. I still despise v5 and want v6 to slap me across the face for ever doubting it.

I agree with you, though I don't think we're in for any huge surprises. Tig's level editor, for example, is very cool, but it still does not match the solid feel of the external one (or Gonstruct).

Stefan, I know you have a lot on your plate, but we haven't seen a client update in almost 3 years. This is absolutely absurd. I've been ready to use the new scripting features in the Graal betas for a long time now.

Can we please speed it up just a bit?

Its been in beta what ... 6 months almost now? ::begs::

A little behind on that one, aren't you? (Not suggesting going up to DX10 or 11, because those are only on Vista and 7 and I doubt they have much, if any, more support for 2D graphics than DX9)

I'd like to see a more fine grained, built in updating service in the client so that we don't have to until some big new client version to get bug fixes and quick updates. So that you can do small, incremental patches very often. It's not even particularly difficult to achieve, coding-wise.

Pretty much every online game I've ever played does this - they make small updates regularly, weekly even (in some cases). I understand it taking three years to get done with all the changes going into v6, what I don't understand is why you have wait until it's all done before releasing updates (especially the bug fixes).

The update process has nothing to do with why we're waiting for big updates. Updating the client earlier was as easy as going to the downloads package and clicking update(as far as I remember, I could be wrong...). I'm not sure why he ditched micro-updates, but I hate it so much. We shouldn't have to wait years just to get small bug fixes.

Well, ideally, for him it should be as simple as compiling a new binary, testing it out, and hitting a button (metaphorically) to upload it to an update server; then when someone logs into the client it would automatically update. Not that it has to work this way, it just should.

I think the rumor was he got tired of compiling the smaller updates. I'm not sure of the real reason, if that's not.

Large C/C++ projects can be notoriously long to compile...

Hopefully the new scripted playerlist wont be anywhere near as laggy as the ones that ive come across. i recall those sometimes seriously bogging down my graal client compared to the f7 playerlist.

I doubt that's the case, he makes new betas all the time and usually runs from his own latest "nightly" beta. The problem is that he's just not releasing these betas. I've had an Intel Mac client for probably two years now.

I heard the GUI player list does not have the option to sort by account name. Is this true?

Eh, I would say not to rush it.

The scripted playerlist is really buggy, atleast for me. But then again, that might be fixed in a unreleased version.

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the dedicated get the worst treatment on this development platform

Personally, I'm excited for everything to be wrapped up and released.

The current beta that I'm using is pretty neat, although I freakin' hate the external windows for the playerlist...

Just my opinion though.

That option has been ruined already.

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Shouldn't add so many graal people.

Should just remove the whole graal account labeling.

i mad

It shows community name, not account, in the new version.

and with that, it will be even harder to find peoples graal account.

Possibly 'showaccount' function? Like 'showonlinetime'?

or have scripted systems work with both community name and account.

There's no reason to find a player's Graal account when everything is fixed. Until servers fix everything (most things are already fixed generally) the server should implement their own lookup methods.

Sounds pretty much like Rage's GIM (Graal Instant Messenger)

That's probably why he mentioned Rage in the very first line, lol.

i can't believe it's not butter

Probably lol

I'm still gonna try to get this out after remaking/optimizing it (Hopefully this late summer/early fall while I have time). It's not an abandoned project or anything.

Oh ok. It's glad to know that you're still going to finish it because that system is just too sexy to not be finished :D

Yeah I remember when he let it out for like beta of sorts, It was pretty impressive.

It was impressive but hardly sexy, at least the version I saw. More like a mess.

At most the version you saw, because it's not anything like an unsexy mess in its current state.

Good to hear you cleaned it up :).

Need voice/video chat.

Flash 10 can be embedded, right? I know the Flash 10 update ****ed **** up for v5.

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I agree, It should have been released months ago.

Have you used the v6 client?

No.

Wait, what, there is like a million things we rather need.

No it shouldn't. It's not ready.

Eh, I think he's been updating it to look neater. Last time I saw it it was actually ok.