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Tigairius 04-03-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1480669)
Classic can be fully enjoyed with only 8 players on, GK can't.

That's really just a matter of opinion. I disagree, in fact, I feel quite the opposite. I feel that Classic can't be enjoyed with only 8 players while GK can. Not saying that GK wouldn't be better with more players though, I can definitely agree with that.

xnervNATx 04-03-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1480682)
That's really just a matter of opinion. I disagree, in fact, I feel quite the opposite. I feel that Classic can't be enjoyed with only 8 players while GK can.


classic can be enjoyed with only 8 players. gk cant .

and to raelyn

that the main reason why i dont pay i because trial do not have enought right to enjoy that server then pay to continu to play it.

Ravenblade1979 04-03-2009 06:36 PM

@Raelyn: i do agree with you somewhat but you have to understand that if they wanted to rake in the cash they could go for a montly renewal and they chose not too so thats telling me already that they have other jobs and are still doing this. To be honest, as must as i like this game its $50 for me for a year. I just don't have that much to spare.

@xnervNATx: Trial is supposed to tantalize you to upgrade. If they gave trials more freedom then it would turn into zone where people don't upgrade. When I first started out it was on trial island and I played through it as a trial and by the time I was done I was so thirsty to see the rest of the game that I payed for a gold membership.

It does have its perks and you have to be willing to pay that extra to find them out. Otherwise you will never get the full enjoyment out of the server that you want.

Tigairius 04-03-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480686)
that the main reason why i dont pay i because trial do not have enought right to enjoy that server then pay to continu to play it.

As far as trials go, we're actually working on making the server more trial-friendly, even if the recent trial updates may make it appear otherwise.

WanDaMan 04-03-2009 09:37 PM

Very nice updates, keep up the great work guys!

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Originally Posted by Nature2 (Post 1480536)
in a few weeks (when bugs are fixed) i will give awards to the kingdoms. It will be like "Kingdom of the month" "Kingdom of the year".


I'd love for you to explore more with these and not only have the awards for kingdoms but also for individual players as an incentive towards people for playing the event such as "Most played player" or "Least amount of deaths" etc.

kia345 04-03-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1480669)
Classic can be fully enjoyed with only 8 players on, GK can't.

GK is best with 8 players

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1480724)
I'd love for you to explore more with these and not only have the awards for kingdoms but also for individual players as an incentive towards people for playing the event such as "Most played player" or "Least amount of deaths" etc.

This, Maroku, read this!

Just because the Kingdom keeps winning Core doesn't say anything about them short of "they have this many mages" or something along that line. One event based entirely on PK'ing is a horrible measure of a kingdom.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1480689)
@xnervNATx: Trial is supposed to tantalize you to upgrade. If they gave trials more freedom then it would turn into zone where people don't upgrade. When I first started out it was on trial island and I played through it as a trial and by the time I was done I was so thirsty to see the rest of the game that I payed for a gold membership.

It does have its perks and you have to be willing to pay that extra to find them out. Otherwise you will never get the full enjoyment out of the server that you want.

i understand that but let take an exemple, some player enter gk as a trial then he enjoy it so much he want to upgrade , but since his/her parents do not want to pay how is he going to enjoy it , see it that way.

@tig ill be looking for more update on that

xXziroXx 04-04-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480770)
i understand that but let take an exemple, some player enter gk as a trial then he enjoy it so much he want to upgrade , but since his/her parents do not want to pay how is he going to enjoy it , see it that way.

Though luck for him, the game isn't free.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1480773)
Though luck for him, the game isn't free.

its was just an exemple too

Tigairius 04-04-2009 12:21 AM

Improved the accuracy of Aengus' Elven Bow.
Now it should be about as accurate as a forest bow, making it probably the best bow in game.

Ravenblade1979 04-04-2009 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480770)
i understand that but let take an exemple, some player enter gk as a trial then he enjoy it so much he want to upgrade , but since his/her parents do not want to pay how is he going to enjoy it , see it that way.

@tig ill be looking for more update on that

granted but that doesn't mean that the gold server make the trial accounts so appealing that the people don't want to upgrade to gold.

xnervNATx 04-04-2009 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1480791)
granted but that doesn't mean that the gold server make the trial accounts so appealing that the people don't want to upgrade to gold.

blocking trial from kingdoms islands was ok , but if ur going to delete all goods for trial , you might as well put a message saying "you have nothing on here, pay or leave"

Draenin 04-04-2009 04:29 AM

So when will PMoP and FHoM not look crappy anymore?

Sky 04-04-2009 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1480801)
So when will PMoP and FHoM not look crappy anymore?

I agree. :(.. same with moon shield. Should atleast represent somewhat of its name. x.X

kia345 04-04-2009 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1480775)
Improved the accuracy of Aengus' Elven Bow.
Now it should be about as accurate as a forest bow, making it probably the best bow in game.

You should alter the speed cap on Leu's chainmail, god items actually need to have some incentive to use them.

Nature2 04-04-2009 09:17 AM

Fixed/Added things on Kingdoms Core:

-Players from other kingdoms cant leave core levels anymore to make the gameplay better , only if the core got destroyed you are able to leave.
-The scoreboard should work correctly now(no reset anymore).
-Pmoder's should go babk to pmode now after doing this event.

cyan3 04-04-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1480807)
You should alter the speed cap on Leu's chainmail, god items actually need to have some incentive to use them.

I agree, also Govannons platemail needs to be altered because currently it's the same as pmop with less weight and ac but has a higher speed cap.

MajinDragon 04-04-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn (Post 1480678)
To Majin, learn to use thread formats aside from Linear. :)

Using linear only doesn't spam threads with multiple posts... :noob:

kia345 04-04-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nature2 (Post 1480820)
Fixed/Added things on Kingdoms Core:

-Players from other kingdoms cant leave core levels anymore to make the gameplay better , only if the core got destroyed you are able to leave.
-The scoreboard should work correctly now(no reset anymore).
-Pmoder's should go babk to pmode now after doing this event.

"Items don't drop as if it were just regular pk'ing"

Events aren't supposed to have risks to playing them

Sky 04-04-2009 05:15 PM

How about you get that crypt up and running again? :D

Ravenblade1979 04-04-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1480872)
"Items don't drop as if it were just regular pk'ing"

Events aren't supposed to have risks to playing them

I agree with you on this point. If this is indeed an event then it shouldn't be dropping stuff like your doing regular pk. If its doing this then it should be changed to act like it does in hotaru spar where just the finger drops.

Draenin 04-04-2009 07:22 PM

*cough*

Raelyn 04-04-2009 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480686)
classic can be enjoyed with only 8 players. gk cant .

and to raelyn

that the main reason why i dont pay i because trial do not have enought right to enjoy that server then pay to continu to play it.

The excuse that they don't let you do everything on your trial account being the reason you don't have a gold account is BS and an outright lie. If you could do everything on your trial account, why would you bother getting a gold account?

You're just cheap. Admit it.

Raelyn 04-04-2009 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1480689)
@Raelyn: i do agree with you somewhat but you have to understand that if they wanted to rake in the cash they could go for a montly renewal and they chose not too so thats telling me already that they have other jobs and are still doing this. To be honest, as must as i like this game its $50 for me for a year. I just don't have that much to spare.

@xnervNATx: Trial is supposed to tantalize you to upgrade. If they gave trials more freedom then it would turn into zone where people don't upgrade. When I first started out it was on trial island and I played through it as a trial and by the time I was done I was so thirsty to see the rest of the game that I payed for a gold membership.

It does have its perks and you have to be willing to pay that extra to find them out. Otherwise you will never get the full enjoyment out of the server that you want.

Unless you live in china and sew sneakers in a sweatshop, I am pretty sure you can swing $50 a year. No matter who you are. It costs more than that to fill up the 20 gallon tank on my pickup back home.. weekly..

Raelyn 04-04-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1480770)
i understand that but let take an exemple, some player enter gk as a trial then he enjoy it so much he want to upgrade , but since his/her parents do not want to pay how is he going to enjoy it , see it that way.

@tig ill be looking for more update on that

They either 1) get a job and pay for it themselves or 2) find a new hobby, because gaming isn't a good hobby for 12 year olds with cheap parents.

Tigairius 04-04-2009 08:23 PM

Finally:
There is no more observer mode on GK.

MajinDragon 04-04-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raelyn (Post 1480974)
Unless you live in china and sew sneakers in a sweatshop, I am pretty sure you can swing $50 a year. No matter who you are. It costs more than that to fill up the 20 gallon tank on my pickup back home.. weekly..

Consider the many Graal players who are too young to work, who only get pocket money and have to think wisely about what to buy - They will find it very hard to fork over $50 to pay for a server that's got a playercount of a classroom...
I'm not even in that situation, i'm 17, studying, getting government income and have a job buying+selling natural and chemical products (:p:asleep:), but i still don't see the point in paying $50 for a game i get less fun in than me walking 100 yards to shoot hoops - And that's alone.

My point is, it's not that it's too much money period, it's that for what you're getting, it's not worth it. If Graal Kingdoms was in an sunday market Stefan and Unixmad would be voicing their product all day and get one sale at most.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1480978)
Finally:
There is no more observer mode.

You're a wonderful feline :asleep:

Tigairius 04-04-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1480807)
You should alter the speed cap on Leu's chainmail, god items actually need to have some incentive to use them.

Sort of ruined a good surprise because this was already planned, however:


All armour speed caps (excpet for any platemail alchemy items) have been increased so that they are not so restricting to your speed.

If you have an alchemy item you will have to recreate it to get the new speed cap on your armor. It's possible for us to update the platemails soon but I am waiting for something.

Special thanks to John (Obs311) for helping.

Draenin 04-04-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius
All armour speed caps (excpet for any platemail alchemy items) have been increased so that they are not so restricting to your speed.

Is mith still crappy, or has it finally been fixed so it's actually worth using again? I ask because it's done through alchemy, but isn't plate.

Otherwise, mages still have nothing worthwhile to use for armor besides gale and bracers, all of which are difficult as hell to acquire.

Tigairius 04-04-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1480427)
Battle mode could easily be disabled on accounts if the subscription runs out.

If you are in battle mode as a trial you are automatically placed in peaceful mode now, and if you are in any sort of kingdom level you will be warped to main upon login.

Tigairius 04-04-2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1480998)
Is mith still crappy, or has it finally been fixed so it's actually worth using again? I ask because it's done through alchemy, but isn't plate.

Otherwise, mages still have nothing worthwhile to use for armor besides gale and bracers, all of which are difficult as hell to acquire.

Mith has been altered and has a decent speed cap now. Might want to test it and let me know.

Maxo14 04-04-2009 10:44 PM

What about Scalemails?

Tigairius 04-04-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxo14 (Post 1481004)
What about Scalemails?

yes

Maxo14 04-04-2009 11:27 PM

Ahhh they got fixed as well.... GK is getting better now :D

Draenin 04-04-2009 11:37 PM

And robes?

Tigairius 04-04-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1481022)
And robes?

Robes haven't been edited yet.

Tigairius 04-05-2009 12:48 AM

Added a brand new Misty Mug Tavern which includes over 5 levels and a new & improved Bojenera tileset. Thanks to Katie for making the levels & improving the tileset.

kia345 04-05-2009 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1481047)
Added a brand new Misty Mug Tavern

Found my new idle spot.

Draenin 04-05-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1481050)
Found my new idle spot.

Trade, right? :D

kia345 04-05-2009 01:22 AM

That was the old one, how'd you ever guess!


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