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pig132 03-14-2009 01:23 AM

haha man u guys r still @ it

DazJenova 03-14-2009 05:56 PM

To be honest frankie had enough power to do something when icarus was manager and when frankie was server admin and still didn't do anything, so i doubt frankie would make a good manager. That's just my thought no offence to frankie or anything.

salesman 03-14-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1474418)
To be honest frankie had enough power to do something when icarus was manager and when frankie was server admin and still didn't do anything, so i doubt frankie would make a good manager. That's just my thought no offence to frankie or anything.

Not really. There's only so much you can do when you're not the Manager. You can't make any big decisions on your own -- that's the manager's job...and if you do try to do something, it can be shut down instantly by the big man.

I could especially see it being difficult to act on your own when the manager is also your friend (which is how it was with Frankie and Icarus). You wouldn't want to start any trouble.

Sure, as server admin you have the same rights, but you don't have the authority to decide what direction to take the server.

DazJenova 03-14-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1474447)
Not really. There's only so much you can do when you're not the Manager. You can't make any big decisions on your own -- that's the manager's job...and if you do try to do something, it can be shut down instantly by the big man.

I could especially see it being difficult to act on your own when the manager is also your friend (which is how it was with Frankie and Icarus). You wouldn't want to start any trouble.

Sure, as server admin you have the same rights, but you don't have the authority to decide what direction to take the server.

He did when Icarus was incharge becaise Icarus had no clue and woudn't go over Frankie's word.

Frankie 03-14-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1474418)
To be honest frankie had enough power to do something when icarus was manager and when frankie was server admin and still didn't do anything, so i doubt frankie would make a good manager. That's just my thought no offence to frankie or anything.

Back when Icarus and I were in management you hardly played so I don't see why you're making such an assumption that I "didn't do anything" while I had power. You're completely wrong. I was doing a lot for the server.

salesman 03-14-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1474452)
He did when Icarus was incharge becaise Icarus had no clue and woudn't go over Frankie's word.

Frankie was doing as much as he could as Server Admin [which was a lot]...it just ended when Houdiniman went on a power trip.

and like Frankie said: you weren't even around

DazJenova 03-15-2009 06:33 PM

I was arround, maybe's not as much but i was, also i'm not arguing i'm just saying.

Tytan 03-16-2009 08:22 PM

Deophite is a ok manager, havent see him do much, but the fact hes only manager so he gets global is ubserd. Completely a waste of time, if you ask me.

MontyPython 03-16-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1474779)
I was arround, maybe's not as much but i was, also i'm not arguing i'm just saying.

Just curious Daz, during this time you were "arround" did you ever have access Era Dev?

Hmmm.

Anyways, on topic.

I haven't seen Deo do anything that would prove him to be a bad manager. It's good to see some new systems implemented while the rest of the work is done on Era dev.

Also, while Deo might not have the past with Era that other managers have had, I'll argue that sometimes it's absolutely best when you've got a manager (and staff team, really) that doesn't have player interests intertwined with their staff interests. Far less corruption, far less "I'm going to hire you because you're my friend". Just unbiased evaluations of individuals and situations. And that's what IS good about this.

DKH89 03-16-2009 09:43 PM

i miss frankie, he was funny as hell and seeing him on era with out staff powers just isnt natural! lol

Shotoo2 03-16-2009 10:00 PM

I miss when Frankie, Hachi, and I challenged Alec's administration at every turn. >:0

DKH89 03-16-2009 10:05 PM

All I know is ever sence Frankie, icarus, tsa, and all of them stop running era is being lame as hell. The thing about being staff is u shouldnt have to listen to *****ing and **** talking and they didnt. I loved watching vulcan and them jail and ban kids for talkin **** to them it was funny as hell. I was even one of them, i was pissed at the time but who cares. They atleast had people keeping their mouths shut. And idk there was just something about all of them being staff that just made everything more exciting

Tytan 03-17-2009 02:05 AM

I never said Deo was a bad manager, i just havent seen him do anything D:, and the rumor is hes only doing this for global.

Deophite18 03-17-2009 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tytan (Post 1475202)
and the rumor is hes only doing this for global.

I wish people would stop saying this. It's not happening anymore, and I am on Era now because I chose to be.

Tytan 03-17-2009 09:40 PM

Thats good Deo, expect good things for the future then

fragman85 03-17-2009 10:45 PM

The only thing I don't like about Deophite is that, he isn't inactive -- He is on Era, but he plays a lot of UN :o

DazJenova 03-18-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MontyPython (Post 1475112)
Just curious Daz, during this time you were "arround" did you ever have access Era Dev?

Hmmm.

Anyways, on topic.

I haven't seen Deo do anything that would prove him to be a bad manager. It's good to see some new systems implemented while the rest of the work is done on Era dev.

Also, while Deo might not have the past with Era that other managers have had, I'll argue that sometimes it's absolutely best when you've got a manager (and staff team, really) that doesn't have player interests intertwined with their staff interests. Far less corruption, far less "I'm going to hire you because you're my friend". Just unbiased evaluations of individuals and situations. And that's what IS good about this.

Acually i was the one who spoke to stefan and did all in my power to get a Era Dev server for Era for free even CLASSIC not gold, so i put so much effort into getting it and no one bothered about it.

CharlieM 03-18-2009 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1475456)
Acually i was the one who spoke to stefan and did all in my power to get a Era Dev server for Era for free even CLASSIC not gold, so i put so much effort into getting it and no one bothered about it.

Yes but so did Frankie and Icarus. From what happened to them I feel they put more struggle into it.

Frankie 03-18-2009 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1475458)
Yes but so did Frankie and Icarus. From what happened to them I feel they put more struggle into it.

We were denied the server.

Then when Snake and I did what we did, globals flipped out. Stefan was okay with it which is why I was never fired for it :D

CharlieM 03-18-2009 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1475469)
We were denied the server.

Then when Snake and I did what we did, globals flipped out. Stefan was okay with it which is why I was never fired for it :D

I know, Thats why I was saying that

Yes daz put a huge amount of work into it to Its funny that stefan was okay with it but I guess not really he was looking at it from an economic stand point, (ex: More money for him)

Frankie 03-18-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1475456)
Acually i was the one who spoke to stefan and did all in my power to get a Era Dev server for Era for free even CLASSIC not gold, so i put so much effort into getting it and no one bothered about it.

That wasn't his point.

What he was trying to say is that while you were "around" like you said you were, you didn't have access to the dev server so you didn't know what was going on back then yet you say I didn't do anything.

DKH89 03-18-2009 10:39 PM

i thought tig was the one who go the devserver

Nataxo 03-18-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DKH89 (Post 1475722)
i thought tig was the one who go the devserver

nop

salesman 03-19-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DKH89 (Post 1475722)
i thought tig was the one who go the devserver

different one

DKH89 03-19-2009 03:19 AM

oh ur talkin about the past past k my bad


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