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Rufus 06-24-2008 06:31 PM

I don't.

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1399040)
Paying to develop isnt actually the unfair thing about Graal.

If Graal was in a better state, with servers that were high in quality, gameplay, users, then I'd agree with you. Paying to build content to save the game however, is unfair and I don't blame people for not trying. Development was always seen as a hobby, a fun thing to do, but going out of your way and PAYING for it is just stupid.

PrinceOfKenshin 06-24-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1399046)
I don't.



If Graal was in a better state, with servers that were high in quality, gameplay, users, then I'd agree with you. Paying to build content to save the game however, is unfair and I don't blame people for not trying. Development was always seen as a hobby, a fun thing to do, but going out of your way and PAYING for it is just stupid.

agreed

cbk1994 06-24-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon (Post 1399025)
Not all of us American's are ignorant to what you are saying. Personally, I wish California was its own country because it essentially is in the sense of culture, education and general political/global/social views.

Can you believe that some Americans (of course 90yapercent of these guys come from the more middle states, no offense to you guys) actually believe global warming is a myth?

The problem is they just don't know the facts; and of course, its very hard to get the facts.

I've watched an Inconvenient Truth, and its pretty scary, but I think a lot of that is exaggerated. I doubt anything serious, besides the rise of gas prices and everything else, will happen even during our lifetimes (meaning something that causes a mass catastrophe such as everyone dying).
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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1399040)
You are paying for the use of a server. Good servers cost up to $130 a month (dedicated that is), Graal is just cheap compared to this because there are several playerworlds running on one server.
You are also paying for the use of Stefan's GServer software.

Paying to develop isnt actually the unfair thing about Graal. The unfair stuff is that you dont get any money when being successful.

I wouldn't like being paid to develop (of course it'd be nice), and I know CJ can't really afford that either.

What I think I like better, and of course is more practical for Cyberjoueres, would be if they rewarded gelats, which could be used for subscriptions.

Darklux 06-24-2008 08:38 PM

Door for democratic nominee... what a speech =O

Googi 06-24-2008 09:11 PM

You guys seem to be conflating a country's overall economic strength with currency value. A country's government (and often even foreign governments) have far more control over the exchange rate of a currency than they do over the overall economy, and can increase the value of a currency by spending foreign currencies to buy their own currency, increasing the interest rate, or even simply printing less money. Generally, it's considered bad economic policy to do so, but blaming the U.S. government for the fall in the value of the dollar is entirely valid, because they could stop it from happening, but have chosen not to (even if this was the right choice economically.) Of course, blame would probably go partly to the executive, partly to congress, partly to the federal reserve, etc.

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Originally Posted by Door (Post 1399014)
approximately 30% of the world's currently tapped oil

This again? Iraq produces less than 7.6% of the world's oil. Iraq has less than 12% of the world's proven reserves. I do not know where you're getting the 30% number from, and this isn't the first time you've used it.

Kristi 06-24-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfKenshin (Post 1399009)
As for you Door bush did put us back into debt after Clinton got as even 0.

The hell? During the Clinton administration the debt went from about 4.2 trillion to 5.9 trillion, We never left debt at any point... ever. He used surplus tax money to pay back a fraction of what was made during his administration.

As for Global Warming, there is evidence of it, but there is no evidence that it is the fault of man. A slight reaction on the sun could do more then we could ever do with countless years.

grawlgamer 06-24-2008 09:19 PM

Lets all talk about how global warming is destroying the world while we are on forums burning electricity. :D

By the way can we please get back on topic?

Graals Price:
Not paying.

Stephen 06-24-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1398933)
Prices go up.
It's life.

As a representative of the graal administration your comments could be considered official - do you really want that as a statement?

If you don't know... probably shouldn't say anything. >_<

cbk1994 06-24-2008 10:14 PM

Stefan PMed me the other day and say "hahaha i knew you would upgrade" ...

Elizabeth 06-24-2008 10:16 PM

while youre at it, you should reupgrade my account

zokemon 06-24-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1399127)
Stefan PMed me the other day and say "hahaha i knew you would upgrade" ...

It's because he loves you and doesn't want to see you go.

cbk1994 06-24-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1399128)
while youre at it, you should reupgrade my account

Are you kidding me? I can't afford another $50 x_x

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Originally Posted by zokemon
It's because he loves you and doesn't want to see you go.

Obviously.

Elizabeth 06-24-2008 10:48 PM

i cant even afford one 50$

Admins 06-24-2008 11:36 PM

I said "thanks for upgrading" x-x

We have announced the price changes a few weeks ago. The server price was previously 99 euro a year for european people and 99 $ a year for american people. To make it more fair we now make the same price for everyone, which means 79 euro for european people and the same money converted to USD for american people (depends on the current conversion rate). So it's cheaper for european people and more expensive for american people.


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