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ChrisNolan 07-31-2007 01:56 PM

Oh. rofl. It's like, just give us the world for one single second and then just rip it away. :p

Darlene159 07-31-2007 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1335880)
Yeaaah.. I just found out that Rufus was removed by Unixmad since Elk reported to the globals that Rufus is in anti-unixmad, which he's NOT. In result of that, all other Development staff left, and since I told Rufus that if he left, so would I.. I dont know. I want to talk to Vulcan/Ibonic before I do anything.

Don't leave. I am so angry about this that I can't see straight. :mad:
This whole thing is completely rediculous.

xXziroXx 07-31-2007 02:06 PM

Yes, it is. From both sides if you ask me. I had quit Graal, for what I thought was for good. Then Rufus IMed me one day, asking if I could come back to Graal and help him on Zodiac - since he wouldn't accept the position unless he had descent staff with him. So I did, and now Rufus was removed by force without ANY proof other then Elk reporting him for being with anti-unixmad. Bull****!

Twinny 07-31-2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1335880)
Yeaaah.. I just found out that Rufus was removed by Unixmad since Elk reported to the globals that Rufus is in anti-unixmad, which he's NOT. In result of that, all other Development staff left, and since I told Rufus that if he left, so would I.. I dont know. I want to talk to Vulcan/Ibonic before I do anything.

Pretty sad huh... especially since Elk is the one going around making anti-unixmad banners...

Elk 07-31-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1335884)
Yes, it is. From both sides if you ask me. I had quit Graal, for what I thought was for good. Then Rufus IMed me one day, asking if I could come back to Graal and help him on Zodiac - since he wouldn't accept the position unless he had descent staff with him. So I did, and now Rufus was removed by force without ANY proof other then Elk reporting him for being with anti-unixmad. Bull****!

I think you got it wrong, my friend.
Unixmad, me and Rufus had a conversation on Zodiac which was about antiunixmad members. Rufus made screenshots about it and sent them to anti-unixmad (KuJi). When I found out that he did it, I reported it to unixmad, because...who would want a Manager who does illegal things like backstabbing Graals Management? Such things HAVE to result in punishment plx. And that happened.
I have enough proof, believe me lol...

ChrisNolan 07-31-2007 02:25 PM

I just can't imagine people actually having hate groups for ANYTHING, like Ashlee Simpson and stuff... but a hate group for unixmad, rofl. It's just this human life that's completely wasted. :( Why do people let themselves turn into such monsters?

Twinny 07-31-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335891)
...stuff...

I don't think the owner of Graal should have been spreading confidential information about a player to everyone. That was highly unethical.

This was a very simple matter that should have been delicately handled. But no. They removed Rufus. The one person who wanted to manage Zodiac and could. It was too quick a response and it will be regretted now.

xXziroXx 07-31-2007 02:31 PM

I find this kinda funny Elk.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4...5883858ae9.png

Crono 07-31-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1335883)
Don't leave. I am so angry about this that I can't see straight. :mad:
This whole thing is completely rediculous.

Trust me, you're one of the few who actually have an influence on unixmad's decisions. I'm sure you can convince him to do something.

Elk 07-31-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1335893)
I don't think the owner of Graal should have been spreading confidential information about a player to everyone. That was highly unethical.

This was a very simple matter that should have been delicately handled. But no. They removed Rufus. The one person who wanted to manage Zodiac and could. It was too quick a response and it will be regretted now.

Everyone? Are you kidding? This was NOT a very simple matter. I'm not only talknig about screenshots, you know?

@ziro

what's wrong with this screen?

Rufus 07-31-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335891)
I think you got it wrong, my friend.
Unixmad, me and Rufus had a conversation on Zodiac which was about antiunixmad members. Rufus made screenshots about it and sent them to anti-unixmad (KuJi). When I found out that he did it, I reported it to unixmad, because...who would want a Manager who does illegal things like backstabbing Graals Management? Such things HAVE to result in punishment plx. And that happened.
I have enough proof, believe me lol...

You are a ****ing liar, how can you even bull**** in public as well as to everyone in private? The audacity of some people these days, but I'd expect nothing less from someone like you.

When unixmad was on Zodiac, you ran straight to the AU chat room and told Joey. Joey has been asking me for screenshots for days now, I told him I wasn't going to send him any and he attempted to bribe me, esle he'd "tell unixmad" or whatever and look what you've both done, successfully got him to believe you. As for backstabbing Graal's management, you shouldn't even be allowed to play Graal with the stuff you pull, this latest photoshopping of Stefan and Unixmad, making them look like terrorists is way more then what I've ever done.

You're a pervert and a liar.

Crono 07-31-2007 02:36 PM

http://www.excessvideogames.com/videogames/6063.jpg

Elk's bout to get served.

Twinny 07-31-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335897)
Everyone? Are you kidding? This was NOT a very simple matter. I'm not only talknig about screenshots, you know?

To even think that Rufus would be Anti-Unixmad is shocking! I can't believe that administration believed it. I thought they would be able to see into your powerplay and manipulations.

Rufus 07-31-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1335903)
To even think that Rufus would be Anti-Unixmad is shocking! I can't believe that administration believed it. I thought they would be able to see into your powerplay and manipulations.

To think anyone would want to get in with a group of kids who spend their lives providing nothing but annoyance is pathetic. Then again, we do have people who lie through their teeth in order to protect themselves, when in reality they're trying their damned hardest to fit in with these bad boys.

Elk 07-31-2007 02:40 PM

You are a ****ing liar, how can you even bull**** in public as well as to everyone in private? The audacity of some people these days, but I'd expect nothing less from someone like you.

When unixmad was on Zodiac, you ran straight to the AU chat room and told Joey

>Wrong

"Rufus Graal: I've got Unixmad for you
Rufus Graal: TOTALLY.
XT Joey TX: ey
Rufus Graal: He's giving out your personal details
Rufus Graal: Joseph?
Rufus Graal: Fishera or something?
XT Joey TX: where?
Rufus Graal: He's just said it on player
Rufus Graal: I've got screens
Rufus Graal: ;-)"

Who ran just straight to AU?...

. Joey has been asking me for screenshots for days now, I told him I wasn't going to send him any and he attempted to bribe me

>Lie

, esle he'd "tell unixmad" or whatever and look what you've both done, successfully got him to believe you.

>Wrong

As for backstabbing Graal's management, you shouldn't even be allowed to play Graal with the stuff you pull, this latest photoshopping of Stefan and Unixmad, making them look like terrorists is way more then what I've ever done.

I did that because I was boring. AU just took the pic and set it as banner.

You're a pervert and a liar.

Same goes back to you, even the "pervert" part ;)

@Twinny
Rufus is NOT part of anti-unixmad and I never said that.

Twinny 07-31-2007 02:43 PM

You agree with Unixmad's actions? He shouldn't have been distributing Joey's information on Zodiac. That's just wrong.

In all fairness, I think Joey had a right to know this.

Rufus 07-31-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335905)
You are a ****ing liar, how can you even bull**** in public as well as to everyone in private? The audacity of some people these days, but I'd expect nothing less from someone like you.

When unixmad was on Zodiac, you ran straight to the AU chat room and told Joey

>Wrong

Actually, I sent the globals proof of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335905)
. Joey has been asking me for screenshots for days now, I told him I wasn't going to send him any and he attempted to bribe me

>Lie

How can you even lie about this, show us all proof?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335905)
, esle he'd "tell unixmad" or whatever and look what you've both done, successfully got him to believe you.

>Wrong

Bell knows this is true, because I've been sending her the conversations the entire time, every last one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335905)
As for backstabbing Graal's management, you shouldn't even be allowed to play Graal with the stuff you pull, this latest photoshopping of Stefan and Unixmad, making them look like terrorists is way more then what I've ever done.

I did that because I was boring. AU just took the pic and set it as banner.

Hahaha so you're admitting to it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335905)
You're a pervert and a liar.

Same goes back to you, even the "pervert" part ;)

I don't think so somehow.

Elk 07-31-2007 02:47 PM

How can you even lie about this, show us all proof?

>The forum isnt the right place for that.

Bell knows this is true, because I've been sending her the conversations the entire time, every last one.

>Bell your best friend...haha...

Hahaha so you're admitting to it?

>Yes I am, why shouldn't I?
AU just took it. I made it because I was bored.

I don't think so somehow.

>Orly?

Rufus 07-31-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335910)
How can you even lie about this, show us all proof?

>The forum isnt the right place for that.

Well perhaps you could send them to me, as you're so obsessed with contacting me in any way/shape/form you can. I'll be waiting for these screenshots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335910)
Hahaha so you're admitting to it?

>Yes I am, why shouldn't I?
AU just took it. I made it because I was bored.

It's ironic that you say I'm anti-management or whatever from doing nothing, then you do stuff like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335910)
I don't think so somehow.

>Orly?

Oh please, I haven't handed out videos of myself to Graalians performing sexual acts on webcam, nor have I had links to homosexual profile sites where most of them are naked in my profile. I don't force people to go on webcam, or try force them to watch me on it either. You're the lowest of the low.

Elk 07-31-2007 02:52 PM

Oh please, I haven't handed out videos of myself to Graalians performing sexual acts on webcam, nor have I had links to homosexual profile sites where most of them are naked in my profile. I don't force people to go on webcam, or try force them to watch me on it either. You're the lowest of the low.

I never handed out videos of myself to Graalians performing sexual acts on webcam.
Also I don't force people to go on webcam, stupid boy.
YOU are the lowest because YOU asked similar things aswell.

Inspiration 07-31-2007 02:53 PM

I know Rufus's personality well enough just hearing him talk and watching his actions to know he's not going to get in with people like Joey and the AU crew.

It's pretty obvious what happened in this situation, even without exact details. Any one who can't see it is pretty blind.

Rufus 07-31-2007 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1335914)
Oh please, I haven't handed out videos of myself to Graalians performing sexual acts on webcam, nor have I had links to homosexual profile sites where most of them are naked in my profile. I don't force people to go on webcam, or try force them to watch me on it either. You're the lowest of the low.

I never handed out videos of myself to Graalians performing sexual acts on webcam.
Also I don't force people to go on webcam, stupid boy.
YOU are the lowest because YOU asked similar things aswell.

Now you're grasping at straws, lying through your teeth and it is common knowledge what you do so it's not as though anyone is going to believe this bull****.

Twinny 07-31-2007 02:55 PM

ANYHOO: before this becomes a full-blown flame war: what now?

Anyone got any decent ideas for Zodiac now?

Darlene159 07-31-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration (Post 1335916)
I know Rufus's personality well enough just hearing him talk and watching his actions to know he's not going to get in with people like Joey and the AU crew.

It's pretty obvious what happened in this situation, even without exact details. Any one who can't see it is pretty blind.

Agreed, everyone needs to use the support center for this. I know I plan to, but this thread has to be closed because it is not allowed, and it is not helping anything. Use the support center, or contact the globals in whatever way you can if need be.


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