omy, all those pirates and Dustari members online!

Shut up, I don't see Bosh ever on anymore, and I rarely see more than 3 people on other kingdom tags.

At least he didn't say anything about my VW Beetle. :noob:

Ya, cause were all gonna stay on ships for some reason, and not go on land. :rolleyes:

Oh man, I know you didn't just call him Kai.

I'm not on because I am still preparing to come back. I told you August because I have things I am busy with.

As for what I'd call the "lower class", how about the people, or just people in general?

Just because they don't wish to USD or spend 1500 hours doing pointless, boring, and repetitive activities to make a few measly good items does not mean they should be talked down on. Each person makes a difference and contributes in some way that can change everything we do. And you always run the chance of eventually someone raising up that is a better candidate than even me for a leader.

There is always a bigger fish, I just haven't found mine yet.

Hmm well I am going to stop the argument here and now.

The war is going to happen regardless of what people say. Like Drakeero, bosh has ideas for Zormite if he gets it.

A word to you bosh. The staff might not let you have Zormite for your own just keep that in mind alright. All this could be done for nothing. Yes it would bring that sheer excitement that only you know how to bring. But I think it would be a kick in the butt if you couldn't take the throne.

Now lets end the bickering. War will happen all we can do is prepare.

Good luck to both sides.

quoted for truth :asleep:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with bickering. Hell, even your FORUMS are alive now. You should be grateful.

Meh me being grateful has nothing to do with anything. But it shouldn't come to flame wars.

Agreed. I'll keep this thread open for now. But if I remain Emperor after this war, either by victory, or staff choice I will probably delete this entire thread as outdated and full of flaming.

Drakeero, I am seeing that you want to delete this entire thread because you can't handle being Emperor and dealing with the arguments and contradictions that follow that role.

I support Bosh, I am not a Bosh "follower".
I remember Archigos, I am not an Archigos "loyalist".

I am here to fight beside Bosh. I am quite tired of these new people to GK just hopping on and getting these amazing positions of power:
Sam, Drakeero, Ravenblade, Fayt, Romain!!! !pissed!, among many other people, on top of that they most commonly treat the people who should be respected, the people who have been here since 2002-2003 like crap.

I think Zormite should go back to an Archigos, or even back to Googi, I mean, he's been there long enough.

Yeah, let's have Gk get updated alot, and have tons of new things, but only old players get power.

That's your problem. I am playing Graal since 2003 an became official staff 2004 and that's fact. :D

Don't bother Sam. Tig thinks he's that important. Thinks people should show him respect even though he don't show them any. Its not worth wasting your breath.

Don't forget that if Bosh regains control of Zormite, it WILL be active again. I already know about half of the people from Dustari will be joining if Bosh gets it. Not your crappy 6 person navy like you have at the moment that you think is so great PoJo.

Lol I know it will be active but like I already said. STAFF HAS TO SAY YES TO HIM HAVING IT.

Then why is it Zormite? They're only joining for Bosh? Are you saying that's something to be happy about, people following their betters? "Let's go with Bosh because he's so great!"

And yes I do think the navy's great, I'm not going to tell them they suck, because they don't and I'm proud of them.
*regal pose*

Note, please remember my earlier argument that the upcoming "Golden Age" for Zormite would not be by or for its own people. It would be 'by' the group of people that follow Bosh over from Dustari. Zormite's activity would be based solely on their, and Zormite's wealth would be almost entirely their own stockpiles. Zormite wouldn't see a bit of it.

As for deleting the thread, I don't like it when my forum drags on for 9 or so pages of threads. If they're outdated, have no relevant information, and no one even reads them anymore, why bother keeping them around?

As for this thread, if I couldn't handle the arguing I would have gotten rid of it awhile back. I'm just thinking of this as the kiddy sandbox for all you to duke it out, and when its no longer needed I'll simply get rid of it. Not like this actually has any useful information for the future regardless of who wins. (Unless Bosh wants to keep it around to show off his great rabble-rousing skills.) I'd rather not waste my forum space for something like this.

I never said it was because bosh is great but you're right, he is great. People just think drakeero isn't, so they feel no reason to join. Thanks.

Of course no one thinks I'm great. I'm like what, the lowest levelled emperor with the least time under my belt? Because I haven't USD'ed the best items in the game I really don't have that high of a standing in combat. I haven't bug abused levelling glitches, so I'm at an even lower level.

There are some people out there who think I can do well. How do you think I became emperor in the first place. It's not easy to do things to prove yourself unless you have a year to spend constantly grinding, some disposable income to buy items, or super-secret contacts with Bjorn to get things uploaded (of which I don't think anyone has those that... yet).

For me, its all up to finding ways to prove myself other then through sheer brute power and amazing wealth. With the exception of Uri and Ajogamer, the people who have joined Zormite weren't 'my friends' before hand. They didn't follow me to Zormite. They came of their own free will, at different times, and stayed because they liked me and think that they have what it takes to do Zormite good. Which is why even under the shadow of a superior foe, many are willing to go down fighting.

It's true
:D

Look Zormites current navy is good. They held their own in the kingdoms mock war. I was proud of them.

Ahem, liked me as well? Hello?

Just so you know, Drakeero's been rather active from 2003-2004, During Wren's, and part of Aki's rule. I hadn't known him before the time I had met him in 2003, so I can't say if he was around before that, or not. He was both loyal and responsible, and led the Ministry of Information well. So no, Drakeero isn't just a newcomer who suddenly popped up and took the position of Emperor, he's had history with Zormite in the past.


Drakeero was rather close to Wren, one of the Archigos. In fact, they had nearly (RP) married, at one point. I doubt Wren would have been opposed to Drakeero's current rule. Besides, just because someone's of the Archigos family, that doesn't mean they'd be a better choice than Drakeero. We can see how well Graynt, another Archigos, has lead Zormite in the past.

Regarding Googi: While both he and Drakeero have had their differences in the past; far as I'm aware, Googi's in support of Drakeero's rule. So if you'd support Googi as leader, why do you have so much against the leader Googi apparently supports?

Tig opposes all those who he don't show respect.

Why is Dustari supporting the war if they are going to lose a lot of their players to make another nation "stronger?" Besides even if "half of Dustari" joins to be Bosh's elite club the majority of Zormite supports Drakeero and are willing to fight Bosh. How many Zormi flocked to Bosh when he told them to join Dustari's Royal Army? I once served under Wren, an Archigos, and she was a great leader. But as I saw mentioned before Graynt was also an Archigos, and so two year later comes a new "Archigos" to rule after Graynt. If Bosh does take Zormite then I will have to leave because I highly doubt there will be any room for me in his Golden Age.

There is a difference. Zen Archigos, patriarch of the family line, personally bestowed my title to me. And gave me his blessings as a leader of this nation. And it is by that blessing that I shall consider as a mandate for my rule. He believed I could do great as a leader as I was a commander, and I will prove him right.

There is another large difference. I do not intend to be the final leader of Zormite, far from it. I intend to introduce a self sufficient democratic form of government for our nation. One that will allow the people chose their own leaders and who best represents them. The nation shall have a constitution, and people shall have rights. There shall be courts of law, and I will require an embassy created as well (similar to what was made in Samurai that YOU NEVER USED AFTER I HAD THE FIRST SUMMIT >:O).

There are many new projects in Zormite's future. And they will continue long after I am retired from the office of Chancellor.

Same, if Bosh takes over Zormite I won't be in it any longer..

It is called role playing. John is the High Priest of Boshism and he will help Bosh whenever he can.

Don't count on it.

That is classified information, check after the war is over to know.

Zen bestowed the title upon her. She was a good peace time leader.

Wren bestowed the title upon him (which isn't allowed).

I was leader before, and Zormite was a superpower during that time and I was working with people of all backgrounds on a one on one basis to help them. I dedicated much of my time and effort to nation building.

All are welcome, if you chose to emigrate that is your decision.

We'll trade Zormite Republic for Bosh's Zormite Rebellion guild and just replay this episode with different characters

You're the only one wasting your breath by screaming at the computer screen in your frustration... just like german kid! (Refer to popular video website)

War will show what happens.

I may not be devoting my time and energies to a democracy, or a constitution, or a bill of rights, courts of law, and an embassy. Well, maybe an embassy. True, it consists of one person who's being trained to handle all my foreign affairs. Not like we actually need much more of an ambassador until the whole server gets more active people.

So far, I haven't needed a court of law. Pretty much every problem that came up during my rule I managed to negotiate to a peaceful conclusion between both parties. I AM the court of law, the sole court of law, and people liked that because I resolved problems swiftly, gently, and fairly. I have put an end to ongoing disputes without disciplinary action. I have gotten guilty and innocent to admit their mistakes, either by wronging the other or reacting improperly to being wronged. How many other emperors have judged by guidance rather then by force? How many other emperors have gotten so much justice with so little punishment?

A constitution, a bill of rights? The very basics of these are laid out in the Terms of Agreement for the game, at least indirectly. They are staff enforced. As for the individual limitations within the kingdom, I do not limit any "rights" of people at all on Zormite. Even the few limitations and permission disputes that are already in Zormite are being lifted soon. You Bosh, have purportedly trampled the rights of other players MANY times by partaking and/or supporting both USD transactions for powerful items and levelling bugs.

As for the leader who best represents Zormite; I have the hearts, good will, and trust of the people. Even with the few who have defaulted to your rebellion. My rule is not tyrannical. The people want it. They DO NOT want you. You are the oppressor for forcing yourself on a kingdom that has decided it does not want you anymore.

And if your ideas are so great and grand, how come they vanish within a few leadership changes, or stand idly by collecting dust? (The only remaining trace of the Archigos I found when I came back was a statue of Wren.) Even the Ministry of Information that persisted for over two years was my personal ministry, created out of scratch at my request during Wren's reign. My ministry lasted for over two years... a fragile blip on a ranking system. The powerful Samurai embassy you created, complete with a tremendous building and well-laid out interior didn't even 'persist' beyond the first use.

It appears that not only have your previous projects but those of your precious ruling family as a whole have not lasted for a long time to come. Niether would most of my mine I had planned when I first became emperor. There was a bunch of grand and incredible stuff I wanted to do which, as Googi points out, was silly, hollow, wouldn't be a appreciated or even last. During my more recent absence, I have carefully considered the merits of what needs to be done. It is not the GRAND ideas, it is not the REVOLUTIONARY ideas, it is not the ideas that requires the continued dedication and cooperation of leaderships yet to come, but the practical projects. Projects that will sit in the background and make things better, unchanging (unless someone purposely sets out to interfere and destroy them), ignored, maybe forgotten and unappreciated, but still persisting until someone thinks they can do better. These are the types of improvements that I have in mind.

ahaha~ This whole thing is kinda interesting. :D

In the end all of your typing can be summarized into one saying "I am a pansy". Thats all I got from that.

The fact that pansies are even threatening to stand up against my is hysterical. Bring it little ones, lets see what little you can do against me. I think the most power you will have is at writing long winded crap on the forums and then threatening to delete them when it starts to go against you.

I'm going to enjoy cleaning the floor with the measly 4 people who are still standing at your side at the end of this.

You clearly have no understanding about the power of Zormite.

Bosh at least people are standing up to you. Shouldn't that show honor and really huge cahones. :D

Oh, I see how it is. You're such a military war-head that you see any ruler who governs with peaceful tactics a pansy.

We will see just how much us 'pansies' can do.

Pansies are actually a deadly flower for other plants. They suffocate all their rivals and grow like mad and very good at what they do.

That was the scariest thing I've ever read on these forums