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Zideruic 06-29-2007 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1323752)
o god just stop, taimat approves of my levels i approve of his so how about u keep your kid games to yourself. Your just blabbing, I get the same crap from anyone I say something negative about. And btw I said something negative about your server that related to the past and no the present. And if you cant admit Delteria has gone through some rough times, then you have no respect for something you care so much about. Their is just no reason for a bunch of dumb internet forums wars. I think right now Ima end this here and leave it to the kids.

It should have been ended about six posts ago.

Mykel 06-29-2007 09:03 AM

Yeah, the overworld is amazing. By far the most appealing overworld on Graal, currently. Hopefully, more in-depth systems will come, but as far as the grunt work of the levels and the small but handy custom GFX go, nothing currently out tops Delteria Dev. Nothing comes close. With the exception of Kingdoms.

Grey 06-29-2007 04:45 PM

The only thing that has really kept me away from playing Delteria in honesty is the staff team. Although the project looks nice if it ever gets on its feet the argument which ensued in this thread doesn't exactly restore my faith.

Codein 06-29-2007 06:33 PM

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Yeah, the overworld is amazing. By far the most appealing overworld on Graal, currently. Hopefully, more in-depth systems will come, but as far as the grunt work of the levels and the small but handy custom GFX go, nothing currently out tops Delteria Dev. Nothing comes close. With the exception of Kingdoms.
Yeah, right.

I vote VS: Conflict =D

Mykel 06-29-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1323856)
Yeah, right.

I vote VS: Conflict =D

Well, first of all, I said currently out. :P

Obviously VS: Conflict was a great map, but in Wan like fashion, it died. Unless it was revived again, surely to die again.

MKxTortoise 06-29-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1323770)
With the exception of Kingdoms.

You realize Kingdoms is a badly rescripted version of an old MUD right? Kingdoms is the worst piece of garbage ever. What a scam.

http://crossfire.real-time.com/

Delteria on the other hand is awesome. Thanks to its awesome Dev Admin!

Crono 06-29-2007 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise (Post 1323884)
Thanks to its awesome Dev Admin!

You?

Infernix 06-29-2007 07:56 PM

Npulse actually has a very very nice OW is the making that rival VS:Conflict. and Im not a big fan of pulse at all but Im not afraid to admit it.

Mykel 06-29-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise (Post 1323884)
You realize Kingdoms is a badly rescripted version of an old MUD right? Kingdoms is the worst piece of garbage ever. What a scam.

http://crossfire.real-time.com/

Delteria on the other hand is awesome. Thanks to its awesome Dev Admin!

And the poor scripting it has is still a lot better than Delteria's. It has dedicated players. Delteria doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Delteria, but trying to compare the two, content wise, is absolutely ridiculous.

Crono 06-29-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1323893)
And the poor scripting it has is still a lot better than Delteria's. It has dedicated players. Delteria doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Delteria, but trying to compare the two, content wise, is absolutely ridiculous.

GK only has to upper hand when it comes to graphics.

Inspiration 06-29-2007 11:03 PM

Tort babigurl, I love you.

MKxTortoise 06-29-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration (Post 1323973)
Tort babigurl, I love you.

Hahaha Ken? What's up you mother ****er. Why are you still around here?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykel
And the poor scripting it has is still a lot better than Delteria's. It has dedicated players. Delteria doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Delteria, but trying to compare the two, content wise, is absolutely ridiculous.

Old Delt vs. Kingdoms, sure. New Delt? The only thing New Delt doesn't have is that stupid fighting system, the ugly new bodies, broken spells and combat systems, buggy dungeons, and that retarded script that makes you walk 10x slower when going up a hill of sand.

Inspiration 06-29-2007 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise (Post 1324001)
Hahaha Ken? What's up you mother ****er. Why are you still around here?

Mostly just lurk and jump into threads that peak my interest now and then, rarely play the game besides logging on for 5 minutes and then off quickly.

Evenglare 06-30-2007 12:49 AM

nah but for real tortoise sucks at sparring

Inverness 06-30-2007 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise (Post 1323884)
You realize Kingdoms is a badly rescripted version of an old MUD right? Kingdoms is the worst piece of garbage ever. What a scam.

http://crossfire.real-time.com/

Delteria on the other hand is awesome. Thanks to its awesome Dev Admin!

GK had a mudlib before there was GS2, you wouldn't have had nearly enough ability to do the same.

Thrashsoul3 06-30-2007 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1323770)
Yeah, the overworld is amazing. By far the most appealing overworld on Graal, currently. Hopefully, more in-depth systems will come, but as far as the grunt work of the levels and the small but handy custom GFX go, nothing currently out tops Delteria Dev. Nothing comes close. With the exception of Kingdoms.

Zenkou and the new 2K1 beat both Kingdoms and Delteria by a stretch.

MKxTortoise 06-30-2007 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1324037)
GK had a mudlib before there was GS2, you wouldn't have had nearly enough ability to do the same.

Uh I probably wouldn't have needed to. The expanded core systems (as in **** beyond classic sparring and PKing) are retardedly simple.

It's semantic at this point, but I am pretty unimpressed by Kingdoms.


As for Zenkou I don't know much about the server but until it's released you have just as little right to brag as we do. Then again, the whole reason this thread is here is because we're ready to be released. Someone enable gs2 on Delt Live please!

Snakeandy7 06-30-2007 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1323892)
Npulse actually has a very very nice OW is the making that rival VS:Conflict. and Im not a big fan of pulse at all but Im not afraid to admit it.

Finished:
  • Account Storing
  • Econemy
  • System [Control of the player]
  • Movement
  • Overworld [I think...]

To-do: [in order]
  1. Inventory [Item control basically...]
  2. New Quests
  3. Weapons [Shouldn't be too hard with the item control]
  4. Visual Effects
  5. Events

PrinceDark 06-30-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7 (Post 1324122)
Finished:
  • Account Storing
  • Econemy
  • System [Control of the player]
  • Movement
  • Overworld [I think...]

To-do: [in order]
  1. Inventory [Item control basically...]
  2. New Quests
  3. Weapons [Shouldn't be too hard with the item control]
  4. Visual Effects
  5. Events

Ah I wish I had some VIP. I would come and check it out. What exactly is account storing?

Zideruic 06-30-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeandy7 (Post 1324122)
Finished:
  • Account Storing
  • Econemy
  • System [Control of the player]
  • Movement
  • Overworld [I think...]

To-do: [in order]
  1. Inventory [Item control basically...]
  2. New Quests
  3. Weapons [Shouldn't be too hard with the item control]
  4. Visual Effects
  5. Events

I don't know what Econemy is but this server sounds fun!

Ravenblade1979 06-30-2007 10:57 PM

Events coool

RefinoheaT 07-01-2007 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Grey (Post 1323830)
The only thing that has really kept me away from playing Delteria in honesty is the staff team. Although the project looks nice if it ever gets on its feet the argument which ensued in this thread doesn't exactly restore my faith.

That may have stinted you're drive to play Delteria in the past, but I can personally vouch for the fact, as someone who had a lot of problems with Delterian staff in the past, that Delteria has completely cleaned up it's act as far as staff is concerned, and have nothing but dedicated workers. All of the people working on the Dev server are the type of staff that you want running a server. There is none of that abusive crap going on, and it won't be tolerated anymore.

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Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1323892)
N-Pulse actually has a very very nice OW is the making that rival VS:Conflict. and I'm not a big fan of pulse at all but I'm not afraid to admit it.

N-Pulse does have a nice overworld, my problem with it however is that most players restrain themselves to the two or three main world levels that contain the spar arena and the events house. I also have a problem with the fact that their "new overworld" is simply an extension of the current one while preserving it's original design.

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1323910)
GK only has to upper hand when it comes to graphics.

I tend to disagree. Yes, GK has a lot of advanced, 3-D look-a-like graphics, but I think that the graphics team on Delteria has done a fabulous job with the tileset as well as the NPCs around the world. Everyone knows Sandz and Cloven make fabulous graphics. Add in the expertise of Misconception and various other staff members and I believe Delteria has an extremely competitive graphics department.

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Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1324084)
Zenkou and the new 2K1 beat both Kingdoms and Delteria by a stretch.

You're not qualified to make that statement because you have no idea what New Delteria is about. I'm not qualified to make the reverse statement either because I have no idea what Zenkou is all about.


Overall I'm thrilled with the progress on Delteria and I think many people are going to be shocked once everything is released.

Crono 07-01-2007 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RefinoheaT (Post 1324468)
I tend to disagree. Yes, GK has a lot of advanced, 3-D look-a-like graphics, but I think that the graphics team on Delteria has done a fabulous job with the tileset as well as the NPCs around the world. Everyone knows Sandz and Cloven make fabulous graphics. Add in the expertise of Misconception and various other staff members and I believe Delteria has an extremely competitive graphics department.

I'm talking about Delteria not New Delteria. :p

Thrashsoul3 07-01-2007 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RefinoheaT (Post 1324468)
You're not qualified to make that statement because you have no idea what New Delteria is about. I'm not qualified to make the reverse statement either because I have no idea what Zenkou is all about.

Well seeing as I have seen all of Delteria Dev I am qualified to make that statement. Its nothing more than a nice port town and an overworld. When I was there development was completely halted and no one but a graphics designer was there. There is absolutely no content to the server. You think I would make impressions out of thin air?

Infernix 07-01-2007 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1324517)
Well seeing as I have seen all of Delteria Dev I am qualified to make that statement. Its nothing more than a nice port town and an overworld. When I was there development was completely halted and no one but a graphics designer was there. There is absolutely no content to the server. You think I would make impressions out of thin air?

....Thats how it was for me the 2nd go around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RefinoheaT (Post 1324468)
That may have stinted you're drive to play Delteria in the past, but I can personally vouch for the fact, as someone who had a lot of problems with Delterian staff in the past, that Delteria has completely cleaned up it's act as far as staff is concerned, and have nothing but dedicated workers. All of the people working on the Dev server are the type of staff that you want running a server. There is none of that abusive crap going on, and it won't be tolerated anymore.

Grey was speaking of how the staff team has acted in this thread so far as a relation of how they acted while running the server. So kinda hard to say their is a change. Plus that kinda BS should be expected on graal since some how people become quite conceited.

RefinoheaT 07-01-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1324517)
Well seeing as I have seen all of Delteria Dev I am qualified to make that statement. Its nothing more than a nice port town and an overworld. When I was there development was completely halted and no one but a graphics designer was there. There is absolutely no content to the server. You think I would make impressions out of thin air?

You have severely contradicted yourself. You say that you are qualified to make a statement about the quality of the server, but admit the last time you saw it was when development was completely halted. Thus, you obviously haven't seen a good portion of it because a thick part of the server development happened after your experience.

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Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1324519)
Grey was speaking of how the staff team has acted in this thread so far as a relation of how they acted while running the server. So kinda hard to say their is a change. Plus that kinda BS should be expected on graal since some how people become quite conceited.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but his initial statement regarding the staff was likely based upon previous experience. He said that the argument in this thread (which by the way really started with you, not Delterian Staff), has not restored his faith. I'm vouching for the fact that the developing staff on the server is much better than the previous staff team that many people are familiar with.

If you quickly skim through the posts, you'll notice that all posts that may be considered part of this "argument" were all in response/defense to an unnecessary critic.

Infernix 07-01-2007 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RefinoheaT (Post 1324533)
You have severely contradicted yourself. You say that you are qualified to make a statement about the quality of the server, but admit the last time you saw it was when development was completely halted. Thus, you obviously haven't seen a good portion of it because a thick part of the server development happened after your experience.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but his initial statement regarding the staff was likely based upon previous experience. He said that the argument in this thread (which by the way really started with you, not Delterian Staff), has not restored his faith. I'm vouching for the fact that the developing staff on the server is much better than the previous staff team that many people are familiar with.

If you quickly skim through the posts, you'll notice that all posts that may be considered part of this "argument" were all in response/defense to an unnecessary critic.

All my comments which were based off my previous experiences could have been ignored. But you said it yourself, this argument in this thread does not restore his faith. Who started it really does not matter because the staff team contributed.

kia345 07-01-2007 07:29 AM

What kind of staff wouldn't argue for their server?

zim5354 07-01-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Alamaris (Post 1323025)
Why has Delteria's progress been stopped? When can the players (customers) expect the Graal administration to update Delteria to GS2?

-Ice Drakken

Well Del is a playerworld and they get no money from Stef/Unix so they can take as long as they want and nothing would/could be done unless Stef/Unix step in and then it would be even worse. As for the progress stopping its probably lazy staff like 90% of all other PWs.

Infernix 07-01-2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1324536)
What kind of staff wouldn't argue for their server?

Maybe one that wants to be more professional?And at the same point if they defend their servers, if you actually read the argument their would be better ways to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1324551)
Well Del is a playerworld and they get no money from Stef/Unix so they can take as long as they want and nothing would/could be done unless Stef/Unix step in and then it would be even worse. As for the progress stopping its probably lazy staff like 90% of all other PWs.

Most servers do have a few lazy staff members. Not like its a big secret lol.

Alamaris 07-01-2007 07:20 PM

If you guys go back and actually look at how many staff members are commenting on this thread you'd realize the number is 1 or 2 and neither of them are huge development members.

The rest are paying graal customers who just want to see the new overworld. In fact I made this thread not to see a bunch of people bicker, but to see work get done. I heard that Stefan has recieved the support ticket, so let's hope Delteria is updated this week.

Infernix 07-01-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alamaris (Post 1324733)
If you guys go back and actually look at how many staff members are commenting on this thread you'd realize the number is 1 or 2 and neither of them are huge development members.

The rest are paying graal customers who just want to see the new overworld. In fact I made this thread not to see a bunch of people bicker, but to see work get done. I heard that Stefan has recieved the support ticket, so let's hope Delteria is updated this week.

One of this is the Administrator lol.

MKxTortoise 07-01-2007 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3 (Post 1324517)
Well seeing as I have seen all of Delteria Dev I am qualified to make that statement. Its nothing more than a nice port town and an overworld. When I was there development was completely halted and no one but a graphics designer was there. There is absolutely no content to the server. You think I would make impressions out of thin air?

If the date on your post was in 06 instead of 07 you'd be right!

Admins 07-01-2007 11:35 PM

K switched Delteria to GS2

RefinoheaT 07-02-2007 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alamaris (Post 1324733)
If you guys go back and actually look at how many staff members are commenting on this thread you'd realize the number is 1 or 2 and neither of them are huge development members.

The rest are paying graal customers who just want to see the new overworld. In fact I made this thread not to see a bunch of people bicker, but to see work get done. I heard that Stefan has recieved the support ticket, so let's hope Delteria is updated this week.

erm, Tort is the Dev Admin, Alex is an Admin, and I'm a Developer. Just an FYI.

Anyway, all is well and Delteria is ready for release. Jump for joy!

Crono 07-02-2007 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RefinoheaT (Post 1324906)
Anyway, all is well and Delteria is ready for release. Jump for joy!

*jumps for joy*

MKxTortoise 07-02-2007 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1324863)
K switched Delteria to GS2

thanks!

6Burning6Church6 07-02-2007 10:08 AM

Wow...You guys are ****ing crazy sometimes, ya know that? I know I've been guilty of getting into arguments with some of you in the passed as well, but seriously come on....

Anyway, it's good to hear that you guys finally finished up, can't wait to see how everything turned out. I should have some time off of work sometime next week, I'll be stopping by then. :)

zokemon 07-02-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 6Burning6Church6 (Post 1324974)
Wow...You guys are ****ing crazy sometimes, ya know that? I know I've been guilty of getting into arguments with some of you in the passed as well, but seriously come on....

Anyway, it's good to hear that you guys finally finished up, can't wait to see how everything turned out. I should have some time off of work sometime next week, I'll be stopping by then. :)

Oh wow, I love your signature. I'm surprised I never saw him say that.

MKxTortoise 07-02-2007 06:00 PM

New Delt release = This Friday


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