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xXziroXx 05-26-2007 10:50 PM

Intelligent people on online games? What's that? Never heard of it.. Oh wait there was this one guy who could spell properly on that server, don't remember the name of it..

Darlene159 05-26-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1312240)
Intelligent people on online games? What's that? Never heard of it.. Oh wait there was this one guy who could spell properly on that server, don't remember the name of it..

Actually, I have met a lot of intelligent people on Graal, so that is not true.

xXziroXx 05-26-2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1312244)
Actually, I have met a lot of intelligent people on Graal, so that is not true.

Yeah, well, so have I. Doesn't mean that 80% of everyone I meet is complete *****s though.

Inverness 05-27-2007 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1312245)
Yeah, well, so have I. Doesn't mean that 80% of everyone I meet is complete *****s though.

Its probably because of 4chan /b/, it just sucks people in and they don't come out the same. Its probably even bad to mention.

kia345 05-27-2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1312232)
Globals shouldn't be over burdened with this stuff, but yea, you are right.

I have been on quite a few playerworlds that I haven't seen extreme harrassment and sexual harrassment. I was not only speaking of what has been said to myself either.

If it's not important enough for them, then it's not that bad.

Googi 05-27-2007 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1312116)
No, because it's easy to get something done about it. A simple alt+2 or a screenshot of your PM logs can take care of the problems.

Except that hardly anybody will accept those as "proof".

Bell 05-27-2007 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1312346)
If it's not important enough for them, then it's not that bad.

Its always important enough if the player has tried to resolve it locally first and didn't get any results. But there is a chain of command, many people tend to try to bypass that chain.

The problem with pm logs and screenshots is they are too easily altered. They can be used to support your claims but can't be considered gospel truth. Supporting evidence always helps which is why often a resolution that makes everyone happy doesn't happen.

Crono 05-27-2007 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1312367)
Except that hardly anybody will accept those as "proof".

GP's nowadays do I believe.

Tyhm 05-27-2007 07:46 AM

Sorry to pick on you Crono, I'm just using you as an example.

Hm...what if there was a way to tell the System NPC "Please route all messages from Gerami through you?", and then (for that connection only) it did?
Solid proof beyond the reach of the average player without unduly compromising security. I would have Gerami's words in my log either way, and could hand them to the server's staff just as easily with or without the server, but with the added certainty of "The System NPC confirms this message."

Conversely, could the System NPC run a complicated checksum code to attach to "monitored" conversations? Such as:
Gerami->Tyhm@servertime 123987896 "Yeah whatever, your mom blows goats and I intend to destroy the server." is translated to HG78j695#77*, but only the server knows the formula to translate it (sender's accountname, translated into CHR$ code, * reciever's accountname, backwards, in CHR$ code, log(servertime), then chop the message into 3-character sections, multiply the first character by 512, add it to the second * 256, add it to the third, then concatenate the message like that) forinstance. Can't translate it back, but you can confirm that that message recieved at that time would be coded that way.

This should probably live in Future Improvements.

Admins 05-27-2007 01:38 PM

Hmmm well the server could theoretically make a md5 checksum of the pms sent, so if someone reports a pm to an admin then it would be possible to check if that pm has really been sent.

Crono 05-27-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1312407)
Gerami->Tyhm@servertime 123987896 "Yeah whatever, your mom blows goats and I intend to destroy the server."

LOL rep worthy, shame I can't.

Tyhm 05-28-2007 05:31 AM

Would it be possible for the server to automatically attach the checksum as a "signature" to every PM sent through it? Not much point if I ask the server "What's the checksum for Gerami->Tyhm@servertime right now "Yeah whatever, your mom blows goats and I intend to destroy the server."?", 'cuz it doesn't prove anything aside from when I asked for the checksum...

zokemon 05-29-2007 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1312303)
Its probably because of 4chan /b/, it just sucks people in and they don't come out the same. Its probably even bad to mention.

Although you might not believe it, most people on there are a much older audience then an average Graalian. Besides, that site requires you be 18+ and almost every person in this "80%" range that Ziro is talking about is around the age of 10 - 14.


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