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_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-16-2001 11:44 PM

Hey, maybe if I complained a lot and won one spar tourney then I can get a kingdom too :rolleyes:

freddyfox 07-16-2001 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad0629

you dont know a thing about us except we won sparring yesterday

Exactly.
I've seen the outlaw's do an "RP" event as they called it. They basically ran into Dustari and started hitting anything that moves.
Malak became infuriated at this and came after Aftershock with a stick. (Don't ask me why.)

PKing isn't the only type of RP, y'see.


_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-16-2001 11:50 PM

You know who Outlaws remind me of? The Celts. They were the latest fad in terms of "kingdoms" but after two weeks they just died out. Despite the fact that the Celts were supposed to be much more barbaric they were more organized anyhow...
And Brad, I have no clue how you test someone if they can RP or not, it makes absolutely no sense how you can test soeone if they can RP or not.

Rekad 07-17-2001 12:01 AM



Tybalt asked for a tag maker a long time ago, but stefan said no. For Karakaze Tybalt has made the harmonica AND the hobo hat.
Tybalt asked for a tag maker a long time ago, but stefan said no. We already have a hidout, all we need is a tag maker and maybe make it so instead of using keys on the house we would just need tags. BUT NO, STEFAN SAID NO MORE KINGDOMS, YET NOW THERE ARE OUTLAWS!
The outlaws dont even have a nice name like Karakaze.

AlkarenHyralt 07-17-2001 12:23 AM

What is the point of kingdoms then? If Grall 2001 was not meant for role-playing then why do you ad role-playing elements to the game? The ideas of kinbgdoms makes me think of Role-playing, not an adventure game.

freddyfox 07-17-2001 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
What is the point of kingdoms then? If Grall 2001 was not meant for role-playing then why do you ad role-playing elements to the game? The ideas of kinbgdoms makes me think of Role-playing, not an adventure game.
Who are you and what have you done with the proper spelling Alkaren Hyralt?

Rekad 07-17-2001 12:39 AM

:eek: you better change that spelling before gameo sees it!

evilive 07-17-2001 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QueenGarnet
What Dante said is right, and what Gonmon said was 100% wrong.

Brad DID run out and recruit a bunch of people, and that was not very smart.

Karakaze Troupe was made to rip people off and do exactly what Outlaws are trying to do. GRAAL2001 DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER KARAKAZE TROUPE. The Troupe was soon hated and basically exiled, due to the fact that everyone was after them. Outlaws seem to be posing Karakaze in the sense that they're trying to do the same thing.

This isn't a kingdom.

Oh, and if Outlaws are a mockery of the rest of the kingdoms, why have them? You see, that's the problem. You can't ROLEPLAY if there are people who MOCK roleplaying around! That's exactly what Outlaws are doing.

Also, since Brad just recruited everyone, and since Gonmon thinks he's "teaching them how to roleplay," doesn't that mean Brad has to be able to roleplay himself? I honestly don't think he can. When I was Empress of Samurai, we had a battle with the Pirate Crew. He was Lookout then. During the battle, whenever he died, he just kept fighting over and over again. That's not roleplaying. If he was roleplaying, he'd try to heal, go to the church (I know Dante was there), things like that.

On a lighter note, you can't teach people to roleplay. People basically have to learn how themselves, or just watch people roleplay many, many times. I've ran many online RPGs in my internet-lifetime, and I know that to be true.


Sigh. Stefan, Outlaws just won't work.

We've only been around a freakin day, you crazy twit!

Brad0629 07-17-2001 01:16 AM

i know yoyu hate us already when you dont even know us

Zormite comes today and attacks us and gets Dustari to hate us also...

Why hate us when you dont know us

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-17-2001 02:11 AM

We have heard a lot of you and your plans so don't tell us we don't hate you for no reason. The sheer fact you whined and begged and pleaded and cried just to get Outlaws as a "kingdom". The fact that you made about 20 threads titled "STEFAN!!! READ!!!" just to get him to make your tag helpers and such. You have NOT been around for a day you've been mentality tattoed into our brains for weeks now and the image is not very pretty

evilive 07-17-2001 02:16 AM

Actually I only learned about the entier thing about 3 days ago.

Merlin 07-17-2001 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QueenGarnet



Err... MALAK owns Valikorlia.

malak quit
geshtal owns it now

Merlin 07-17-2001 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QueenGarnet


Karakaze Troupe was made to rip people

LIES
we are muscians and actors :(
and also what kind of roleplayers use things like "Asst. Head Mercinary" ?

FatherDante 07-17-2001 04:09 AM

Brad, why do you think as soon as you mentioned Outlaws here everyone recoiled in disgust? We all hated the idea, we all wanted no more kingdoms.

I guess I've been oversensitive, though. It's easy when you're wrapped up in something you find "cool" to want to be as exclusive as possible. But the truth is the Outlaws aren't hurting anybody. I can still have my kingdoms role-playing fun with Dustari and Zormite.

So, I apologize for being a little melodramatic. I was a little agitated about the samurai being cheated out of the sparring trophy.

Grease_Man2 07-17-2001 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
I was a little agitated about the samurai being cheated out of the sparring trophy.
you did good, Brad did respawn though. :/

freddyfox 07-17-2001 04:17 AM

Wait... if they claim not to be a kingdom, how can they win a trophy?

07-17-2001 04:23 AM

Outlaws is a horrible HORRIBLE idea. Everything should go through the RPC first, that would be great. Stefan needs to have a deal with RPC that any RP related things must go through them first and be approved.

Here's my idea: Take all kingdoms down, or turn the current castles into mini-games like pre-Dustari. Then make a brand new server or transform one into roleplaying. We can keep the name Karakaze, but Dustari, Samurai, and Pirate Crew should be changed. Brand new "groups" can be made. Karakaze would be equal to Bob Empire since they both RP. Karakaze wouldn't have a gigantic castle, but they have hideouts. And once the server comes up and groups are set, there will be no more.

As for what servers would be RP, G_yoshi said we could use his server and I have said in a previous thread that we can use Mithica, it's designed to be roleplaying.

Cloud_X 07-17-2001 04:24 AM

This looks like a good place to post an Update on Tyealia.
Tyealia if you dont know is the kingdom of basically angel's (heaven and such type thing). Our cloud palace is being buildt by Ssmutz (if you dont know him he is the one who made the Bomy Cavern). I would say it is around 50% or so done. From what I saw and heard It is really awesome and will maybe even be better then the bomy caverns (from the way it is looking it probably will but, is hard to say 100% right now). The ranks are about 90% done I have the site listing them and such online but, WILL NOT give the address out untill it is 100% complete which will hopefully be tommorrow or the next day. As for recruiting. We wont be really trying to recruit people untill we get tags ethier by getting a tag helper (which would be very nice hint hint) or having to do the guild support way =[. All people who wish to join are allowed. If they can rp then they get there tag right away after asking if not they must wait untill one of our members can give them a short lesson (maybe like 30 mins) on RPing and what to do and what not to. The reason we are getting tags before our Sky Palace is online is to follow along with the story line which if anyone is interested in can PM me on the boards or graal. For a faster result you could AIM me at Rcrossbone for any questions. Anyway thats it I think if I remeber more ill type it up.

07-17-2001 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloud_X
This looks like a good place to post an Update on Tyealia.
Tyealia if you dont know is the kingdom of basically angel's (heaven and such type thing). Our cloud palace is being buildt by Ssmutz (if you dont know him he is the one who made the Bomy Cavern). I would say it is around 50% or so done. From what I saw and heard It is really awesome and will maybe even be better then the bomy caverns (from the way it is looking it probably will but, is hard to say 100% right now). The ranks are about 90% done I have the site listing them and such online but, WILL NOT give the address out untill it is 100% complete which will hopefully be tommorrow or the next day. As for recruiting. We wont be really trying to recruit people untill we get tags ethier by getting a tag helper (which would be very nice hint hint) or having to do the guild support way =[. All people who wish to join are allowed. If they can rp then they get there tag right away after asking if not they must wait untill one of our members can give them a short lesson (maybe like 30 mins) on RPing and what to do and what not to. The reason we are getting tags before our Sky Palace is online is to follow along with the story line which if anyone is interested in can PM me on the boards or graal. For a faster result you could AIM me at Rcrossbone for any questions. Anyway thats it I think if I remeber more ill type it up.


AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE KINGDOMS!!!!!!! I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cloud_X 07-17-2001 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Napster69



AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE KINGDOMS!!!!!!! I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now enter your time machine for about a month or so ago when I first started working on Tyealia..........

07-17-2001 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloud_X
Now enter your time machine for about a month or so ago when I first started working on Tyealia..........
Hmmm, it is still another kingdom being added. This is the first time I have heard of Tyealia.

How about we all wait until we see this "secret" that Stefan is gonna do? Then we can decide whether to make a new server, use Mithica or G_yoshi's server or Providence or whatever.

Cloud_X 07-17-2001 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Napster69


Hmmm, it is still another kingdom being added. This is the first time I have heard of Tyealia.

How about we all wait until we see this "secret" that Stefan is gonna do? Then we can decide whether to make a new server, use Mithica or G_yoshi's server or Providence or whatever.

You only heard of it now because no offense you havent been on the forums for a long time/arent very active.......

FatherDante 07-17-2001 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Napster69
Everything should go through the RPC first, that would be great. Stefan needs to have a deal with RPC that any RP related things must go through them first and be approved.
I don't think so. Although I might not have liked him adding Outlaws, Stefan still has the right to do what he wants.

As for other servers... I like kingdoms on Graal2001. I don't want to go to other servers. Actually, I think they work pretty well now. Anything else could only be an improvement.

Cloud_X 07-17-2001 04:36 AM

I talked to RPC a bit about Tyealia awhile ago

FatherDante 07-17-2001 04:40 AM

I somewhat wish I hadn't left RPC, but I was occupied with something and I didn't want to be an irresponsible innactive member (Like most of their members are currently. :)).

Rekad 07-17-2001 05:44 AM

Karakaze is okay with The RPC, and so far we have less than 10 members and NO kingdom hoppers, but since we dont have tags we cant really be orginized at all, most of the members dont even wear the [] tag we have.

Zulithe 07-17-2001 06:50 AM

STOP THE INFLATION

No more Kingdoms

Period

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-17-2001 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloud_X
This looks like a good place to post an Update on Tyealia.
Tyealia if you dont know is the kingdom of basically angel's (heaven and such type thing). Our cloud palace is being buildt by Ssmutz (if you dont know him he is the one who made the Bomy Cavern). I would say it is around 50% or so done. From what I saw and heard It is really awesome and will maybe even be better then the bomy caverns (from the way it is looking it probably will but, is hard to say 100% right now). The ranks are about 90% done I have the site listing them and such online but, WILL NOT give the address out untill it is 100% complete which will hopefully be tommorrow or the next day. As for recruiting. We wont be really trying to recruit people untill we get tags ethier by getting a tag helper (which would be very nice hint hint) or having to do the guild support way =[. All people who wish to join are allowed. If they can rp then they get there tag right away after asking if not they must wait untill one of our members can give them a short lesson (maybe like 30 mins) on RPing and what to do and what not to. The reason we are getting tags before our Sky Palace is online is to follow along with the story line which if anyone is interested in can PM me on the boards or graal. For a faster result you could AIM me at Rcrossbone for any questions. Anyway thats it I think if I remeber more ill type it up.

WRONG! This is NOT the good place to update on a stupid kingdom. In case you have realized, we don't want more of them. And your idea for a kingdom is lame. We already have a bunch of people hiding in their little meeting places with gold AP, refusing to PK for the sake of RP'ing. Get your facts straight buddy, it's a poor idea and nothing new

Cloud_X 07-17-2001 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_


WRONG! This is NOT the good place to update on a stupid kingdom. In case you have realized, we don't want more of them. And your idea for a kingdom is lame. We already have a bunch of people hiding in their little meeting places with gold AP, refusing to PK for the sake of RP'ing. Get your facts straight buddy, it's a poor idea and nothing new

Thats bad coming from a Shadow Knight heh

Rekad 07-17-2001 07:53 AM

can I be the god that rules Tyelia?

Cloud_X 07-17-2001 07:54 AM

There isnt actually a God. Well he isnt seen or anything it's like this kingdom is more of an out post.

Rekad 07-17-2001 08:01 AM

fine then, I ll be an Avatar :D

FatherDante 07-17-2001 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rekad
so far we have less than 10 members and NO kingdom hoppers,
No kingdom hoppers? Both of your leaders are from other kingdoms!

Rekad 07-17-2001 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante


No kingdom hoppers? Both of your leaders are from other kingdoms!

shutup!

Brad0629 07-17-2001 10:14 AM

yawn

the crappy kingdom outlaws has won 2 trophys in 2 days

Sjc2k1 07-17-2001 10:22 AM

you are not a kingdom even stefan said that

Brad0629 07-17-2001 10:25 AM

stefan told me this

We are a clan that may participate in kingdom games...

we owned the last 2


Rekad 07-17-2001 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad0629
yawn

the crappy kingdom outlaws has won 2 trophys in 2 days

2 words: ALL THE KINGDOM HOPPERS ARE IN YOUR KINGDOM NOW AND KARAKAZE WASNT ALOUD IN ANY OF THE GAMES SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH YOU DANG DIGGITY POSER!

FatherDante 07-17-2001 10:45 AM

I feel sick with disgust.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 07-17-2001 10:46 AM

C ya later Brad, that sig marks the end of your days in the forum and I can't say I'm sorry for you
And if a hacker did it all the better


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