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EdiNaiS 07-19-2006 09:53 AM

This is silly, All Era does is run for a couple months until people can afford stuff and then it goes for a reset. We dont need to have a reset to fix the economy, there are many more simple ways to fix it. You can change the price of ammo, make money harder to come by, get rid of player owned buisnesses and set guns to higher prices. If however a reset is inevitable, players should be partialy compinsated by allowing them to choose 1 item out of there inventory to keep. If the reset does happen thier should also be no gang guns and only tag locked buisness guns to reduce the selling of guns for higher profits.

GarethOmni 07-19-2006 10:07 AM

Your right, i don't care. Not anymore. Maybe i don't care that Skyld obviously doesn't know how to handle this job.

Im done hoping that era would be better, back to where it used to be a long time ago.

Thats why i destroyed my items at unstick me, instead of feeding the ****ed up economy.

Im sick of where Era has gone, and i no longer want a part of it.

Celarion 07-19-2006 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdiNaiS
This is silly, All Era does is run for a couple months until people can afford stuff and then it goes for a reset. We dont need to have a reset to fix the economy, there are many more simple ways to fix it. You can change the price of ammo, make money harder to come by, get rid of player owned buisnesses and set guns to higher prices. If however a reset is inevitable, players should be partialy compinsated by allowing them to choose 1 item out of there inventory to keep. If the reset does happen thier should also be no gang guns and only tag locked buisness guns to reduce the selling of guns for higher profits.

At what point did taglocked biz guns become more valid than taglocked gang guns? What aboud people with gang weaponry and no biz weaponry?

Could this perchance be because you only have gang weaponry? *SHOCK HORROR*

Skyld 07-19-2006 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotoo2
Skyld wants to keep the small bizes. Don't worry, that means the economy will get screwed up again and you'll end up losing that one item in the long run anyway.

I'm not sure if you read what I wrote but I said that small businesses would be moved out of the weaponary area and into tertiary areas. I thought that small businesses should have two or so weapons to sell, but Hachi disagrees, so I will leave that decision to him.
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Originally Posted by deathbarrier99
Skyld, what I heard is that you demoted and made your self Manager. You are absurd. Go away. There's better people for manager.

Andrew quit. I did not fire him.
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Originally Posted by marche186
Firstly, if you are going to reset, do it SOON! Era is going to lose players again if everyone has to wait around in a "pre-reset" world. The last time we had to wait for the reset, it was horrible and the player count dropped tremendously.

If Era were to be reset, I do not really want to rush the process. I would want to make sure that things are right and spend some time making it right.
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Originally Posted by marche186
MORE STAFF!
The number one complaint from everyone that plays Era is that the staff do not reply. You guys are busy, we know. Staff should be hired that have limited powers, but are there for the sole reason of helping people.
They should almost always on their staff tag and can help with everyday problems such as glitches and people issues..I know I can vouch for half of Era when I say that several Player Relations admins would be awesome.

That can be done.
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Originally Posted by marche186
Second, small businesses were a complete disaster. If you insist on keeping them make many changes. Create a minimum price that each item could be sold for, a reasonable one. The bizs were constantly lowering their prices for competition to the point where they were losing money to sell them.

Small businesses would stay but again would be changed. Hachi had a long list of problems with them and I asked him to fix them. That's up to him.
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Originally Posted by marche186
Third, gang weapons ****ed up the economy too. I agree that gangs should have their own weapons, but don't make them so outrageously good. If they have to be that good, don't make them so easy for the gang to create. Make the prices as high as the quality and "l33tness" of the weapons.

Hmm, would have to see about this one.
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Originally Posted by marche186
Fourth, if there is a reset, don't give the same old people their gangs and businesses. A reset is a reset and it is only fair if they are reset just like everyone else.

It's undecided if the same gangs and businesses would be there after the reset. It might be good to introduce a whole new range, but that's not decided yet.
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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt
Skyld, player bizzes should NOT HAVE CONTROL OF WEAPONS. A place run with temporary ownership and half-assed working will really set a bad example on behalf of large businesses and guns in general. Please do me a favor and keep the biz system away from weapons (I know you refuse to get rid of it, despite my belief and previous power. Think on a scale of importance, not what Stefan thinks.).

If you think that is best, go for it. I won't argue with your judgement, because you seem to have a better idea on small bizzes than I do.
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Originally Posted by White_Roy
If you're not going to get rid of the small businesses how are you going to keep control of the economy?

By following Hachi's suggestions and changes and keeping them away from major selling points.
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Originally Posted by White_Roy
How are you going to stop gangs from losing meaning?

Possibly each gang having the same member limit, having only select people being able to recruit, improving gang bases, working out ways to give gangs an incentive to raid other gangs (perhaps a serverwide status board, some sort of randomly generated reward? opinions, please)
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Originally Posted by White_Roy
How are you going to maintain the rarity of the gang guns?

By making sure that only gang members can have them.
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Originally Posted by Celarion
SkyID, how precisely are you planning on compensating people for their gym levels?
I'm currently level 10 speed and level 5 strength. That's somewhere around 75 hours of gym training.

Before you answer, please go and try to do 1 straight hour of treadmilling. Then just ATTEMPT to multiply that by 60 in your head.

Then do 1 hour of strength training, and multiply that by 15.

Yeah. Please. What the hell.

I am not entirely sure how the gym system is working, but ideally it would give a much better boost (being able to carry even more items, maybe being able to use melee weapons faster)
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Originally Posted by Celarion
In the case of people having ridiculous amounts of money, that's mostly from scamming. Have a look at Nubszz, he is (or was the last time I checked) the richest guy on Era. Incidentally, he has barely done any work himself. He just suckered a whole bunch of people. There's no way to stop that, really. People are always going to be stupid, and others greedy and ambitious.

The amount of scamming that has occured makes it difficult to just go back and solve problems like that. One of my primary points of thought is improving the item trade so that it is more reliable, making it easier to access and endorsing it's use. There are too many people who just drop items without thinking about it and that can't really be helped.
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Originally Posted by WanDaMan
If you plan on a reset, why would you need a new overworld? It's asif you're taking this project as a walk in the park. Anyway; If you decide to create a new overworld, hopefully it'll be ready after Christmas - fully functional, new quests etc which would be worth the wait.

The current overworld has had so much thrown into it over time that it hasn't been very well thought out. Introducing a new overworld allows us to ensure that everything we have that we want now fits, whilst catering for additional things, such as quests, new areas, etc.
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Originally Posted by GarethOmni
Your right, i don't care. Not anymore. Maybe i don't care that Skyld obviously doesn't know how to handle this job.

There is a good reason why I ran this poll, and that is to find player's opinions. If the majority vote was 'Leave things the way they are', I would not reset the server.

KuJi 07-19-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GarethOmni
Your right, i don't care. Not anymore. Maybe i don't care that Skyld obviously doesn't know how to handle this job.

Im done hoping that era would be better, back to where it used to be a long time ago.

Thats why i destroyed my items at unstick me, instead of feeding the ****ed up economy.

Im sick of where Era has gone, and i no longer want a part of it.

You still have your p2ks.. don't Lie :p

gameer213 07-19-2006 01:26 PM

100% Reset.

And try to make it not just a popularity contest.

As for giving gangs meaning, i'll have to refer back to the old system where points were gained while inside an enemy base; in my personal opinion that was the funnest time of Era. (It was still ****ed up but it was fun)

And I very much agree with
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Fourth, if there is a reset, don't give the same old people their gangs and businesses. A reset is a reset and it is only fair if they are reset just like everyone else.

Crono 07-19-2006 01:32 PM

The best was back when Era Mafia existed and all the gang houses were on the same land. So many little wars, raids, etc.

Celarion 07-19-2006 01:47 PM

SkyID, my hours of gym training have not affected the economy in any way, shape or form. Will I be allowed to keep 75 hours worth of effort in the form of gym levels or character stat boosts?

Skyld 07-19-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Celarion
SkyID,

S K Y L D.
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Originally Posted by Celarion
my hours of gym training have not affected the economy in any way, shape or form. Will I be allowed to keep 75 hours worth of effort in the form of gym levels or character stat boosts?

I'm not sure about that yet; that'll be decided later.

deathbarrier99 07-19-2006 01:59 PM

If they reset and people can only keep one gun, that'll help to all those people with 2+ gang guns.

Celarion 07-19-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld
S K Y L D.

I'm not sure about that yet; that'll be decided later.

Sorry, Skyld

Let me just state here and now that I would never have even STARTED working on that **** at the gym if I had any inkling that within 3 months all of my effort would be for naught.

BlueSamurai 07-19-2006 04:20 PM

The Best ERA:

4 Gangs:
Tachi, BB , ERA Mafia, Black Holst

4 Guns:
Handgun,Shotgun,Uzi,Ak47 (all single)

Some Ammo Shops,Bounty Hunter...smaller G-map

like Private ERA :D

FantasyX 07-19-2006 04:28 PM

I am extremely upset with you Skyld. I have worked my ass off for my items, and this is what you do? The majority of people here that want a reset are people who were already reset for being an idiot.

I'm really not liking this, Skyld. It's unfair how you're doing it at the upmost extent.

Spyder-z2 07-19-2006 04:28 PM

Hey Sklyd, you made a poll on the offical forums, non of the old players's votes even really count.
All you people complaining about "omg /cry make era a non-popularity contest /cry!", how about you play era for more than 2 months before you talk? People who have been here for years, people who worked up their rep and made it into power, why don't you think about us? All you're getting in this poll are the players who have played era for a few months, mabye weeks, and are behind. Man, I bet only 25% of them will still be playing after the reset anyway. But don't worry about the massive loss of players who have stuck through with Era, who leave after this reset. Only the newer players matter now, right? The players that will just cry 4 months after the reset about how so and so has a SG552 and they want one too, or how this one girl has a katana and it's too rigged, those players are the only people that matter now, right?
Seriously, why can't we have it the way players want it? We are the ones paying/playing the damn game.. Ok, so you globals get it the way you want it? Is that all that matters? You guys are adding so many fancy npcs and systems that NONE OF THE PLAYERS WANT! I mean really, if we HAVE to reset, why can't we just strip Era down to what it use to be back in Chrisz's Era. The players LOVED it! Why can't we get a real say in this? The real players, the OLD players? The people who have stuck to era through all this garbage, can't we get a break?

This post is related to the reset in question, thank you.

FantasyX 07-19-2006 04:37 PM

Seriously, Skyld.

Not all of Era's population has gold / VIP.


Take that into consideration, bub.

KuJi 07-19-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameer213
100% Reset.

And try to make it not just a popularity contest.

As for giving gangs meaning, i'll have to refer back to the old system where points were gained while inside an enemy base; in my personal opinion that was the funnest time of Era. (It was still ****ed up but it was fun)

And I very much agree with

That's because you will never get one... and that wasnt the OOOOOLD system btw ;)

sam_is_me 07-19-2006 04:59 PM

This is a post from J, he is not gold so I am posting it for him.
I feel that Era does not so much need to reset but bring new things in piece
by piece. The most important thing is the staff members. The staff for the
majority are awful. They don't listen to suggestions or warp to you when
needed for hackers/abuse of certain things. I feel that Era should have new staff
temporarily to see how it goes and if it doesn't go well, then reset should occur.

-Johnny Quezebo (ice_is_nice4)

Skyld 07-19-2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasyX
I am extremely upset with you Skyld. I have worked my ass off for my items, and this is what you do? The majority of people here that want a reset are people who were already reset for being an idiot.

I'm really not liking this, Skyld. It's unfair how you're doing it at the upmost extent.

Another one who has neglected to read the thread! This is a poll for players opinions.
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Originally Posted by Spyder-z2
Hey Sklyd, you made a poll on the offical forums, non of the old players's votes even really count.
[...]
This post is related to the reset in question, thank you.

Anyone with a classic account should be able to vote on the forums.
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Originally Posted by FantasyX
Seriously, Skyld.

Not all of Era's population has gold / VIP.


Take that into consideration, bub.

Please see previous point.

marche186 07-19-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld
The amount of scamming that has occured makes it difficult to just go back and solve problems like that. One of my primary points of thought is improving the item trade so that it is more reliable, making it easier to access and endorsing it's use. There are too many people who just drop items without thinking about it and that can't really be helped.

There is a lot more scamming going on than items being dropped, although that does happen often..The biggest scams were when someone with a lot of recognition (Nub) trick people into giving LARGE amounts of money. This brings us back to what I said. More staff. Most of the people who donated to him were a little hesitant and had questions, there were no staff to answer them...

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Originally Posted by Skyld
Possibly each gang having the same member limit, having only select people being able to recruit, improving gang bases, working out ways to give gangs an incentive to raid other gangs (perhaps a serverwide status board, some sort of randomly generated reward? opinions, please)

The member limit: Sounds like a good idea, it would make it "fair", which is what everyone is crying about...fairness, but reality is that one gang is going to have more people than another. I can't see a gang saying, "Sorry we've reached our limit" in real life...

Improve the gang bases! They've looked the same for how long now?

A status board and rewards would definitly make people want to raid, but you should add something cool too..
Maybe each gang should have its own NPC that sits outside talking smack to everyone. When another gang raids them successfully, the NPC should start talking smack about its own base..In order to fix it, the gang would have to get its base back. If an NPC is sitting outside saying, "LC sucks! Don't bother raiding them, it is too easy" (no offense) I'm sure LC would want their base back...
Just a random idea..

-Ching 07-19-2006 05:15 PM

What's with all the stupid resets? Era was fine when Chrisz managed it, I miss that guy :(

KuJi 07-19-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasyX
people who were already reset for being an idiot.

1) He didn't do NOTHING.. he is asking what the players want.

2) I think it's only me and fidel who have been reset for... as you say "being an idiot" and as I say.. scamming is fun ;).

3) Majority who vote yes are people who are:
a) New
b) Were scammed everything they owned (by Torque *afk*)
c) People who have never had anything
d) People who realize the economy is messed up
e) People who know snks been pushing for a reset.. for months.
f) People who know staff were corrupt and gave them stuff.
g) And people like me who have 15 accounts for yes - brb.. ill start voting now :D

Charlie9 07-19-2006 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by killzonekz
OK first of all we dont need a reset for Era all u need to do is shutdown the server for a day or 2 w/e it takes and re open when things are done..man i just finished makin 25k the most ive ever had on me and i need like 50 kills for my first 1k kills and now this crap comes up. Its not era that is corrupt its the staff. theres playeer with 4k hours and now u gonna make it hell for us and some players just reached 8k kills thats good but now everyone gonna be at 0k/0d and Yenroy is tryin for 100k of points on era and well he is like 6k away and like i said this crap comes up. All u need to do is not allow staff to spoil players such as KAe by givin him katana and bamboo roods ad stuff. i know ppl that have many ideas for era but never listened b/c the corrupted staff have favorites. staff are so corrupt that i saw some guy win an even t and they gave him a medkit then their friends wins an event and they get a ET coin thats just nice. try new staff or talkin to players and listening. im here for u guys which i doubt u will read this cuz im not a favorite. and the only reason i payed for graal was b/c of era. and now u screwing everything up for us. leave it as it is just shut the server for a day or so. i play for 14hours or more a day and i get on to see that is crap has come up. one more thing i doubt era will be populated like it was. so think about population as well zzz hopefully someone will read this....

wow that is so wrong its not even funny and you only have 10 hours of something else a day i play like one hour a day and the rest is doing things called outside i say just cut small buisness pull gangs back in and work on them along with buisness then re release them and i actually think a reset would be good half the people saying "no reset you *******" are people on era that brag like " i can earn 6k in 30minutes" hell i give stuff away to trials because i dont see the point in haveing it i say go with the reset

Elizabeth 07-19-2006 06:22 PM

I voted "yes."

I believe, it desperatly needs a reset.

I'm getting annoyed with the old one and its lag.


RESET!

Sum41Freeeeek 07-19-2006 06:37 PM

If Era resets, businesses will go to original owners. [b]I don't want to see...
drgneyes -gf with jessie- *Owner* (Dippen Don0ts) Businesses and gangs are
something that doesn't get taken away with the reset. It never has, never will.

Oh, letting people choose a gun to keep can't be an option. All the guns caused
our economy to blow up, since there were no rarity. People can choose guns
like MS (which is supposed to be rare)

White_Roy 07-19-2006 06:48 PM

Errr if you let Celarion keep his speed than all of Era will argue, complaining why they couldn't keep anything. Total reset please. If not I don't see why I can't keep my EC's I have 197 of them and I earned them. Although I bought like 10. :)

shrimps 07-19-2006 06:52 PM

So as well I should get to keep my level 21 mining. !pissed!

Eclipse 07-19-2006 07:02 PM

He is just pissed because he skipped his own prom to run and lift weights in the era gym :redface: "OMG I RAN FOR 75 HRS FOR FUN, DONT TAKE IT AWAY I CANT BE UBAR WIT MY KATANA I R COOL WITH IT".

stop crying and shutup

cannonzim 07-19-2006 07:11 PM

This Is To Blonk
 
Lmao Dude If You take weapons away from bizes there wouldn't ever be new guns like Ap7's PL9 And such so practically we need bizes to sell weapons

MegaMasterX90875 07-19-2006 07:11 PM

Remember what happened to the playercount last reset? O_o
I would kinda like to keep my items, though we all worked pretty hard to EARN what we got and.....its like losing your house, It sucks to have to earn everything back.

MistyWhite 07-19-2006 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Celarion

The people who are voting "yes" to the reset are both too lazy to earn their perks like I have, and too ethically motivated (or just plain stupid) to sucker people in the fashion of Nubszz.


:

People are not stupid for voting yes. me myself i voted yes, even tho i do not wanna loose my hard earned stuff, yet i would like to see better things on era, instead of seeing scammed stuff here and there, and people having stuff that their not suppose to have, or having stuff that is impossible for other players to have, AND TO MUCH Damage on certain items, like Bamboo stick for example, where the livin hell did that come from? and it has too much damage.

and as mentioned sumwhere before, how people got stuff from being favorites with staff, thats got to stop.

shrimps 07-19-2006 08:15 PM

Seeing better stuff on Era doesen't mean you have to reset it...z.z Just reset era for god sakes alredy we know Yes is going to win because everyone wants to see better stuff on era and thinks reset will fix it. As long as there is an "economy" the server will be screwed up like MAloria and GK...z.z

GoldenGangster 07-19-2006 09:48 PM

The reset, it is a good thing. There must be a reset.

KuJi 07-19-2006 11:03 PM

And I want an axe then if Cel keeps his speed :)

Bl0nkt 07-19-2006 11:11 PM

Keep in mind that I'm a die-hard Era developer and an old die-hard Era player. If there's one person that will fight for the best it's me. I will make sure this won't lead to an 8 month down time and a horrible outcome.

k0rupt_ed 07-19-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt
Skyld, player bizzes should NOT HAVE CONTROL OF WEAPONS. A place run with temporary ownership and half-assed working will really set a bad example on behalf of large businesses and guns in general. Please do me a favor and keep the biz system away from weapons (I know you refuse to get rid of it, despite my belief and previous power. Think on a scale of importance, not what Stefan thinks.).

Thank you. Even though we know its gonna be staff ass kisser who get the ownership of the big biz its better then the smaller ones.

KuJi 07-20-2006 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl0nkt
Keep in mind that I'm a die-hard Era developer and an old die-hard Era player. If there's one person that will fight for the best it's me. I will make sure this won't lead to an 8 month down time and a horrible outcome.

Lolk :p. Don't forget to distribute those guns that cycle through 5000000 functions :P

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Originally Posted by k0rupt_ed
Thank you. Even though we know its gonna be staff ass kisser who get the ownership of the big biz its better then the smaller ones.

o wtf.. I work hard doing that =/

dude2020 07-20-2006 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenGangster
The reset, it is a good thing. There must be a reset.

ur sig looks like sum u know wat im going 2 say

i like the idea of a reset
i worked not really hard nor scam for my stuff i really wnana see Era get things RIGHT

k0rupt_ed 07-20-2006 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KuJi
o wtf.. I work hard doing that =/

lol this guy..

Celarion 07-20-2006 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Eclipse
He is just pissed because he skipped his own prom to run and lift weights in the era gym :redface: "OMG I RAN FOR 75 HRS FOR FUN, DONT TAKE IT AWAY I CANT BE UBAR WIT MY KATANA I R COOL WITH IT".

stop crying and shutup


FOR FUN? 75 HOURS ON THAT THING FOR FUN? ARE YOU INSANE?

Celarion 07-20-2006 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
I voted "yes."

I believe, it desperatly needs a reset.

I'm getting annoyed with the old one and its lag.


RESET!

Your lag can only be fixed by moving your connection closer to the Era servers. Move to Europe, don't reset the server.


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