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Googi 06-21-2006 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX
Impossible for Googi to get examples?! Impossible!

If you only want to go back as far as the beginning of the forums, there are lots of examples. Even without staff powers, Moon Goddess still consistantly acted like she had infallible moral superiority.

Darlene159 06-21-2006 12:34 AM

Ugh, some of you are making this about the forums, when it is not.
I am speaking of how older adults are treated IN GAME.

ApothiX 06-21-2006 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Ugh, some of you are making this about the forums, when it is not.
I am speaking of how older adults are treated IN GAME.

It's been said time and time again. People do not just treat you the way they do because you're older. Read the posts next time.

Darlene159 06-21-2006 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX
It's been said time and time again. People do not just treat you the way they do because you're older. Read the posts next time.

That's odd. I guess all those people are liars then, interesting.
There were specific refrences to my age, from the first time I stepped pixels on Classic, up to present day.
I am sure there are other reasons why some dislike me, but that is not what I am talking about in this thread.

Sulukra 06-21-2006 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle
Another reason, a bit more indepth and psychological, is because people look at you like a parent figure. This creates a conflinct because I've run into several younger kids on this game who have a horrible family life and no sense of love at home. They log on Graal to escape their parents, or family. By you moderating the forums and acting sort of like a mother, if you will, you're the exact thing they're running from.

You and younger kids both take a break from reality by playing Graal, however, you interfere with some of the younger player's escape.

Yeah, I'ma have to go with Curt on this one.

Malinko 06-21-2006 01:28 AM

Moonie, people are just jealous! THEY WISH THEY HAD POWER LIKE YOU! Therefore, these people attack age because it's cool to attack people on the forums.

I WISH GOOGI WAS FORUM ADMINISTRATOR. He/she knows all about the forums! I mean, he/she complained to Stefan about Moonie, but was rejected. Hahaha.

Taste it, Googi.

Other than that, Moonie, stop wondering, there is no use. Just do the job asked to do. You do a great job.

Now, I shall wait for another line from Googi that I've heard a number of times so I can laugh at her and post it on the Wiki.

Googi 06-21-2006 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Ugh, some of you are making this about the forums, when it is not.
I am speaking of how older adults are treated IN GAME.

Yes, I know you aren't talking about the forums, but forums are the only place from which I can get postable examples of how you have acted in the past.

Anyways, very young players also get attacked on age too. The Graal playerbase is tough, and players will attack others whenever they get opportunities to. It's possible you get attacked more often than other players of similar prominance, but it would be because age-based attacks are "easy."

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Moonie, people are just jealous! THEY WISH THEY HAD POWER LIKE YOU! Therefore, these people attack age because it's cool to attack people on the forums.

Except that we're not talking about her getting attacked on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
I WISH GOOGI WAS FORUM ADMINISTRATOR. He/she knows all about the forums! I mean, he/she complained to Stefan about Moonie, but was rejected. Hahaha.

Uh, yeah. I knew what the result would be beforehand because I'd already complained to him several times before. You haven't made some kind of discovery because you happened to see it the 2247th time I complained to Stefan.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Taste it, Googi.

"Taste it?" This sounds like something Emily would say.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Now, I shall wait for another line from Googi

Are you looking for something like "You CrySpace Katsumoto!"

Silent 06-21-2006 03:07 AM

Children play games for fun, and to escape reality - a reality which includes the authority of their parents or guardians. You, Darlene, being a parent yourself, are to them a figure of authority regardless of what power you have within the Graal community. You seem to them to be the big bad demon who demands that those children go to sleep on time every night.

Plus you look a little like a vampire from The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, but you gain a load of stat and skill bonuses for that. :)

MisterMastermind 06-21-2006 03:30 AM

People attack other people without any good reason alot. Most of the time we're just kidding. :) So few older players and so many jokes at older players. WeAllLuvULongTimeGrandma

Googi 06-21-2006 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent
Children play games for fun, and to escape reality - a reality which includes the authority of their parents or guardians. You, Darlene, being a parent yourself, are to them a figure of authority regardless of what power you have within the Graal community. You seem to them to be the big bad demon who demands that those children go to sleep on time every night.

The first part is true. I highly doubt that the second part is. I don't think there's a lot of players who make a connection between age and authority on Graal.

Malinko 06-21-2006 03:54 AM

GOOGI! U R SO KEWL!

No.

Damix2 06-21-2006 03:58 AM

Could it be because people don't like your attitude and your age is you most identifiable characteristic?

ApothiX 06-21-2006 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent
Children play games for fun, and to escape reality - a reality which includes the authority of their parents or guardians. You, Darlene, being a parent yourself, are to them a figure of authority regardless of what power you have within the Graal community. You seem to them to be the big bad demon who demands that those children go to sleep on time every night.

Pretty much a ripoff of what curt said. PLAGIARISM.

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Originally Posted by Silent
Plus you look a little like a vampire from The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, but you gain a load of stat and skill bonuses for that. :)

Haha.


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Originally Posted by Googi
I don't think there's a lot of players who make a connection between age and authority on Graal.

This is true. It is also hard to make a connection between age and maturity on Graal. (See the quote below for an example)
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Originally Posted by Malinko
GOOGI! U R SO KEWL!

No.


Googi 06-21-2006 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Malinko
GOOGI! U R SO KEWL!

No.

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if it turned out that Malinko was actually Blade50 or something?

Silent 06-21-2006 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX
Pretty much a ripoff of what curt said. PLAGIARISM.

It's easy to forget what was said in the third post after reading through the entire thread. It is for me, anyway. I won't do it again, sir! :(

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Originally Posted by ApothiX
(See the quote below for an example)

I lol'd

HoudiniMan 06-21-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi
The first part is true. I highly doubt that the second part is. I don't think there's a lot of players who make a connection between age and authority on Graal.

I think it's the other way around. Players take an authority figure and make a connection to their age. As Apothix said, he's turning 19 soon, but as PWA I've been criticized more than once for being "too old" to play this game, etc, and I'm 19.

As has been said countless times already, I think it's your attitude that gets you judged into the like/dislike piles. Once you're there, people will say anything if they think it might get to you.

I doubt even a single person has said to their friends outside of the community "Ugh! There is this older player on Graal..." etc

Oh oh, look everyone! Malinko's doing a trick! Oh wait... it's the same trick. :frown:

Skyld 06-21-2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Please give me honest answers without being hateful. I would really like to know the reasons behind why players have a problem with older adults (or just me) playing.
I have my own theories, but I would rather not voice them, but would rather see if I am correct.

In terms of younger players, I think the media has a lot to do with it. If you think about it, there is always something on the news about pedophilia, and I should imagine that kids around the Internet are often warned by their parents these days to be very weary of such. Children and younger players probably think that they are slightly at risk by being around adults in a game environment which they thought was just for children.

I'm not accusing any adult on GraalOnline of being a pedophile, but I think it is probably a reflex action for kids to display negativity to adults around Graal because they were so regularly warned by parents.

Then again, I am sure that you would do exactly the same to your kids. :)

Chicken_l33t 06-21-2006 12:54 PM

I couldnt care about your age, but your personality. Your a bish and you wont admit when you're wrong and you make all these crap rules. If you were 18 or 80 I wouldnt care, but the way you have handled stuff dealing with me has just pissed me right off thus meaning I don't like you one bit and wish you would leave for good.

You use "your powers" far to harshly, but hey since when has my bloody oppinion being a player counted? You do stuff anyway even if you're wrong. MOOO!

Darlene159 06-21-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld
In terms of younger players, I think the media has a lot to do with it. If you think about it, there is always something on the news about pedophilia, and I should imagine that kids around the Internet are often warned by their parents these days to be very weary of such. Children and younger players probably think that they are slightly at risk by being around adults in a game environment which they thought was just for children.

I'm not accusing any adult on GraalOnline of being a pedophile, but I think it is probably a reflex action for kids to display negativity to adults around Graal because they were so regularly warned by parents.

Then again, I am sure that you would do exactly the same to your kids. :)

I am slightly suprised that this is the first time this has been mentioned in this thread, and I do agree that kids should always be cautious.
I don't, however, think they should be downright rude and disrespectful.
They should definately be extremely careful as to what information they give out about themselves all the time.
Someone could say they are 13, and be 40. I am sure everyone here realizes that.

Yes, I have taught my kids to be extremely careful on the internet (whether they do or not is a whole different story), but I have also taught them to be respectful towards everyone, regardless of age, race, disability, etc...
Just to be careful as to not give out information about themselves which can be used to find them.
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Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t
I couldnt care about your age, but your personality. Your a bish and you wont admit when you're wrong and you make all these crap rules. If you were 18 or 80 I wouldnt care, but the way you have handled stuff dealing with me has just pissed me right off thus meaning I don't like you one bit and wish you would leave for good.

You use "your powers" far to harshly, but hey since when has my bloody oppinion being a player counted? You do stuff anyway even if you're wrong. MOOO!

I have admitted I was wrong many times.
Also, I have made up no rules at all for Graal, so I don't know where you get that from.

Chicken_l33t 06-21-2006 03:48 PM

Ah, yeh not made up my mistake, but perhaps stretched the meaning of rules to a point where they don't seem like the same rule anymore.

excaliber7388 06-21-2006 03:58 PM

I will agree with one thing, you can't argue with Darlene, she's always somehow right, and we're too immature to know these things :\

...
Malinko, you've changed since you bacame the last samurai.
In all honesty and kindness for an old friend, please, get some help.

Skyld 06-21-2006 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Yes, I have taught my kids to be extremely careful on the internet (whether they do or not is a whole different story), but I have also taught them to be respectful towards everyone, regardless of age, race, disability, etc...
Just to be careful as to not give out information about themselves which can be used to find them.

I am not sure how things are in many places across the world, but here, that teaching of respect and such I think is often neglected by parents. Around here, over 80% of the youths are delinquant and abusive, and I guess those same traits transfer across to online games.

Darlene159 06-21-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t
Ah, yeh not made up my mistake, but perhaps stretched the meaning of rules to a point where they don't seem like the same rule anymore.

This thread is not even about the forums, or my position here, or have you not been reading?
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Originally Posted by Skyld
I am not sure how things are in many places across the world, but here, that teaching of respect and such I think is often neglected by parents. Around here, over 80% of the youths are delinquant and abusive, and I guess those same traits transfer across to online games.

It is pretty much the same here, sadly.
I'm not going to say it is the parents fault, because obviously, every situation is different.
All us parents can do is our best, and hope for the best outcome.

ApothiX 06-21-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent
It's easy to forget what was said in the third post after reading through the entire thread. It is for me, anyway. I won't do it again, sir! :(

You are forgiven, my child.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
It is pretty much the same here, sadly.
I'm not going to say it is the parents fault, because obviously, every situation is different.
All us parents can do is our best, and hope for the best outcome.

The trick is to tell your kids to be disrespectful, and the age-old teenage rebellion will kick in and they will do the exact opposite! Sure-fire plan, never fails.

Darlene159 06-21-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX
The trick is to tell your kids to be disrespectful, and the age-old teenage rebellion will kick in and they will do the exact opposite! Sure-fire plan, never fails.

Reverse Phsycology (sp) might work for some things. Teenagers are not stupid, and that will not work.
But, I assume that you already know this. ;)

Malinko 06-21-2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
I will agree with one thing, you can't argue with Darlene, she's always somehow right, and we're too immature to know these things :\

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Malinko, you've changed since you bacame the last samurai.
In all honesty and kindness for an old friend, please, get some help.

Zomg!

I have fun being an idiot! :):)

ApothiX 06-21-2006 04:34 PM

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Reverse Phsycology (sp) might work for some things. Teenagers are not stupid, and that will not work.
But, I assume that you already know this. ;)

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Chicken_l33t 06-21-2006 04:54 PM

I havent been reading what so ever to be quite honest. I just took an opurtunity to say stuff about you cause I felt like it.

I will admit I read the first post though and the ones after mine.

Hey, I was just saying not everyone dislikes you because of your age. Hell, not everyone dislikes you and don't say players dislike you for your age it's sorta an escape from admitting that some people actually don't like you for who you are and not how old you are.

excaliber7388 06-21-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Reverse Phsycology (sp) might work for some things. Teenagers are not stupid, and that will not work.
But, I assume that you already know this. ;)

Who are you tryin' to fool?
:p
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Zomg!

I have fun being an idiot!
Yeah, you used to be a good PWA, nice person, helpfull.
And then a little problem of yours got in the way.
Projection only works for so long.

Crono 06-21-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
Yeah, you used to be a good PWA, nice person, helpfull.
And then a little problem of yours got in the way.
Projection only works for so long.

It's more like...

Kewl person => Kewl PWA person => Kewl person again

He was nice and helpful before he became PWA, noob.

excaliber7388 06-21-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
It's more like...

Kewl person => Kewl PWA person => Kewl person again

He was nice and helpful before he became PWA, noob.

I never said he wasn't.
But his attitude has gotten really ****ty lately.

Crono 06-21-2006 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
I never said he wasn't.
But his attitude has gotten really ****ty lately.

You act like PWA was the beginning of the good malinko.

excaliber7388 06-21-2006 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
You act like PWA was the beginning of the good malinko.

I never said that, but he was nicer then, then after the reason he was fired....he bacame an ass.

Darlene159 06-21-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t
I havent been reading what so ever to be quite honest. I just took an opurtunity to say stuff about you cause I felt like it.

That was obvious.

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Hey, I was just saying not everyone dislikes you because of your age. Hell, not everyone dislikes you and don't say players dislike you for your age it's sorta an escape from admitting that some people actually don't like you for who you are and not how old you are.
This I know.
I realize that there are people who dislike me for other reason, but that is not the purpose of this particular thread.
The purpose of this thread is to see why players seem to dislike when older adults/parents play Graal, why they harrass them for their age, and so on.
If I am disliked for other reasons, then you have no reason to post in this particular thread.

Crono 06-21-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
I never said that, but he was nicer then

Lawl, he was nicer before he was PWA to me.

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then after the reason he was fired....he bacame an ass.
He no longer needed a reason to be nice to idiots/noobs.

excaliber7388 06-21-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
He no longer needed a reason to be nice to idiots/noobs.

Ah, that explains why he's being an ass to everyone, he's better than us all, he's superhuman! All I can say, is that graal mariage is noobish, acting immature because you 'don't care' is childish, and acting different online because you think you're hawt ****, is *****ic. With how twisted he's become, I'm not sure I want to be on his A list.

Googi 06-21-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
Also, I have made up no rules at all for Graal, so I don't know where you get that from.

This is true. Moon Goddess rarely completely creates new rules. Rather, she simply claims that something violates an existing rule when it in fact does not.

-Ching 06-21-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
This is true. Moon Goddess rarely completely creates new rules. Rather, she simply claims that something violates an existing rule when it in fact does not.

Either that or it's people like you that are in the wrong but dont like being told what to do and will never admit that they're wrong. Being young minded is what it's called.

Infernix 06-21-2006 09:45 PM

You people shouldnt let some old lady get to you so much, if she ever removes a post of mine I simple post it again or say it in a different way for that it has to same meaning but doesnt say it straight out and direct.

Crono 06-21-2006 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
Ah, that explains why he's being an ass to everyone, he's better than us all, he's superhuman!

Yeah he's elite like that.

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All I can say, is that graal mariage is noobish, acting immature because you 'don't care' is childish, and acting different online because you think you're hawt ****, is *****ic.
I thought it was an irl thing. o.o

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With how twisted he's become, I'm not sure I want to be on his A list.
He's not losing much.


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