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ViCtOrEhEhEh 05-03-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Yen
Well, let's get a few things straight.

First of all, Maloria is actually based off Providence; MrWorry would spend his whole day playing Providence with me, so when it went down he wanted to turn Maloria into his own version of Providence.

Second, Maloria can't even compare to Zodiac in terms of NPCs. Our systems are nothing like Maloria's are, though they may be like the systems 'Maloria v3' was supposed to have. Unfortunately, they never managed to complete v3, so you can't say I ripped them off; I scripted my systems first.

Third, Maloria's staff can't compare to my scripting ability. Ajira is the only one who would be capable of scripting something like Zodiac's systems, and I know he doesn't want to. When I logged on, their scripters warped to me and started calling me down, telling me my scripts are crap. I ask you, if my scripts are so crappy, why have you failed to script the same thing? Hell, you had it planned back in June. It only took me three days to script them, yet you guys can't do it in over half a year with 6 scripters?

In terms of stolen GFX, I'm working with what Zodiac gave me. I really don't know if something is stolen, however I do know that we have had a few GFX staff in common. They uploaded the same things on both Zodiac and Maloria.
However, some of Zodiac's original GFX have been recolored and uploaded to Maloria. The same may have happened on Zodiac, but I wouldn't know.
Either way, both servers have 'stolen' GFX, so it's best that Maloria just drops the subject and goes back to crying in their corner. Zodiac's players aren't logging on Maloria and harassing your players for stealing our GFX.

Zodiac has been getting harassed by Maloria's staff and players all day yesterday. When I logged on, I screenshotted 11 people (including a Police and two staff members) telling me to 'Get the **** off their server' and saying things like 'We don't want ***gots here,' as well as people using scripts that made me unable to speak, which is illegal as far as I know. All of this happened while Maniaman was standing there, and he wasn't AFK.
They're just acting like little children; Zodiac got a bigger, yellower truck and now they're crying because they can't get one for themselves.


P.S. our baddies don't step on players and have the ability to use spells and skills, whaddayathink of that!? Damn right!

Maloria right there just got owned! :X

irule13 05-03-2006 08:09 PM

Try reading posts after that next time.

DarkPhantom316 05-03-2006 09:33 PM

Whatever you little monkeys, this isn't about who stole
what from whatever. The thread was made
to get maniaman removed as manager, you guys
can go prance off and battle Maloria Vs. Zodiac,
some other time. Right now it's time to take maniaidlepants
down.

irule13 05-03-2006 09:45 PM

It does not look like anything is going to be done.

protagonist 05-03-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by irule13
Also this is not the spot to come and say that you are better, and considering we have new systems that will be better then yours coming out hopefully in a few weeks i suggest you keep quiet unless you have all the facts.

How juvenile. If your new systems are not done, how do you know they are better?

irule13 05-03-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
How juvenile. If your new systems are not done, how do you know they are better?

Because i am currently beta testing them. Like i said before if you don't know what your talking about dont mention it.

BlueSamurai 05-03-2006 10:21 PM

half the players on maloria are ignorant idiots, dont mind them.

VT dont be calling others juvenile, its making yourself a hypocrite.

also yen, from what i heard, zodiacs staff were harassing mal players when they got on your server, i heard from a friend that he logged om, your staff warped him around everywhere and were abusing their powers.


yea..this is about maloria's crappy management, not who stole what

Gambet 05-03-2006 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Yen
First of all, Maloria is actually based off Providence; MrWorry would spend his whole day playing Providence with me, so when it went down he wanted to turn Maloria into his own version of Providence.

What you seem to not comprehend is that, even if that were true, it wouldn't be the same as you basing your systems off of Maloria. Hell, you advertently admitted that you based your systems off of Maloria. Now, you may ask yourself "How is that difference from Maloria and Providence?", well, the difference is that Providence was no longer around when Worry made the Maloria transition. Maloria is a classic server, and has been for quite some time. If we added gold/vip account restrictions on parts of the server, I would bet that Maloria would bring in some more income for Graal (not saying that we are, so don't freak out, Maloria fans). It is unjust to advertently admit that you have based your systems on a server that is still standing, still active, and still being updated on a weekly basis. It wouldn't matter if Maloria was based on Providence, because Providence was taken down, and I've never heard Worry admit that he stold any ideas from Providence, as you admitted that you stold ideas from Maloria.

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Originally Posted by Yen
Second, Maloria can't even compare to Zodiac in terms of NPCs. Our systems are nothing like Maloria's are, though they may be like the systems 'Maloria v3' was supposed to have. Unfortunately, they never managed to complete v3, so you can't say I ripped them off; I scripted my systems first.

Think about the oxy*****ic statement you just stated. How could you have scripted your systems first, and claim that you got the ideas from the systems that Maloria is using on v3? You are contradicting yourself, because you would have to have seen the systems first to derive your systems from them, thus meaning that you did not create your systems first. A lot of systems are made already for v3. Why is v3 not complete yet? I blame that on Maniaman and his poor lack of management skills when it came to v3. But, v2.5 is well off its way and I'm sure Zero will complete it in no time.

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Originally Posted by Yen
Third, Maloria's staff can't compare to my scripting ability. Ajira is the only one who would be capable of scripting something like Zodiac's systems, and I know he doesn't want to. When I logged on, their scripters warped to me and started calling me down, telling me my scripts are crap. I ask you, if my scripts are so crappy, why have you failed to script the same thing? Hell, you had it planned back in June. It only took me three days to script them, yet you guys can't do it in over half a year with 6 scripters?

Once again, the reason v3 is not complete is mostly Mania's fault. Do not blame it on our scripters, because mostly all of us didn't even have dev access, let alone dev rights. Mania waited day in and day out for TB3, and it was like waiting for a wall to sprout legs and walk out of your house. ShadowBlaze and Zero are both further talented in scripting than Ajira, so you need to go back and check your sources.

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Originally Posted by Yen
as well as people using scripts that made me unable to speak, which is illegal as far as I know.

We have something called the Silence spell, which allows players to Silence others for X amount of time. The time is no-where near long, so I don't see exactly why you're complaining.

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Originally Posted by Yen
P.S. our baddies don't step on players and have the ability to use spells and skills, whaddayathink of that!? Damn right!

Our baddy system is quite old, and I would agree that it definitely needs improvement.


Yen, you worked on Maloria, and were fired. Out of pure spite, you have decided to steal Maloria's ideas in hopes of making a better version yourself, to throw us off the top 3 list (daily playercount wise), with content that was originally ours. I see nothing worth admiring or worth praising in what you're doing.

BTW: Nice tileset in that server picture that displays when you hi-lite Zodiac on the serverlist. I wonder why it looks so familiar... :rolleyes:

anubis_wing 05-03-2006 10:54 PM

Gambet for King of Mal!

Maniaman 05-03-2006 11:05 PM

Perfect timing, my IP seems to have changed on me, preventing me from signing on RC.

DarkPhantom316 05-03-2006 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniaman
Perfect timing, my IP seems to have changed on me, preventing me from signing on RC.

That's what you get for not trusting anyone,
and not giving them setrights you nub.
Should of rehired me when you had the chance <3

irule13 05-03-2006 11:24 PM

Oh god now we have no manager at all.

DarkPhantom316 05-03-2006 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by irule13
Oh god now we have no manager at all.

Not like he did anything anyway? :]
Not really a big loss, if you ask me.

irule13 05-03-2006 11:30 PM

Yeah thats true.

Yen 05-04-2006 03:40 AM

FLAMEFEST!
No, really. I give this thread's lifespan one more day, at the most.
Honestly, I'm getting sick of this immaturity Maloria's players and staff are showing.
They're harassing my staff (and some of mine are acting in turn, much to my discontent) and continue to try to oppose my beliefs, though they have no basis to prove anything they state.
Please, grow up; breaking you down is getting tedious.

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Originally Posted by Gambet
What you seem to not comprehend is that, even if that were true, it wouldn't be the same as you basing your systems off of Maloria. Hell, you advertently admitted that you based your systems off of Maloria. Now, you may ask yourself "How is that difference from Maloria and Providence?", well, the difference is that Providence was no longer around when Worry made the Maloria transition. Maloria is a classic server, and has been for quite some time. If we added gold/vip account restrictions on parts of the server, I would bet that Maloria would bring in some more income for Graal (not saying that we are, so don't freak out, Maloria fans). It is unjust to advertently admit that you have based your systems on a server that is still standing, still active, and still being updated on a weekly basis. It wouldn't matter if Maloria was based on Providence, because Providence was taken down, and I've never heard Worry admit that he stold any ideas from Providence, as you admitted that you stold ideas from Maloria.

I most definately DID NOT base my systems off Maloria, nor did I state as much; I based them off the original Zodiac's, but fixed the problems. Unforuntately, both Maloria and Zodiac shared many problems. The obvious fixes were the same.
However, I fail to see any major similarities to Maloria, other than the fact we're an RPG server. There are only so many ways to make an RPG.


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Originally Posted by Gambet
Think about the oxy*****ic statement you just stated. How could you have scripted your systems first, and claim that you got the ideas from the systems that Maloria is using on v3? You are contradicting yourself, because you would have to have seen the systems first to derive your systems from them, thus meaning that you did not create your systems first. A lot of systems are made already for v3. Why is v3 not complete yet? I blame that on Maniaman and his poor lack of management skills when it came to v3. But, v2.5 is well off its way and I'm sure Zero will complete it in no time.

No, I got no ideas from Maloria v3. I didn't even think of Maloria while I was scripting these systems, I was thinking of what I wanted it to do and how to make it flexible enough that I wouldn't have to put much effort into adding new content. Once again, you put words in my mouth, learn to read.
When I worked on Maloria, your systems were nothing but ideas. The most we scripted was the weapon control (mine are MUCH more efficient, by the way) and the inventory. I began the GUI, but didn't finish. Nothing else was in place. I really doubt your systems are made; you guys are known to bull**** a lot. Your scripters are low-class, they can't compare though you may think they can.
How about that awesome yellow light effect on that one chest? Yeah, it may have been considered pretty five years ago. It's not anymore.


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Originally Posted by Gambet
Once again, the reason v3 is not complete is mostly Mania's fault. Do not blame it on our scripters, because mostly all of us didn't even have dev access, let alone dev rights. Mania waited day in and day out for TB3, and it was like waiting for a wall to sprout legs and walk out of your house. ShadowBlaze and Zero are both further talented in scripting than Ajira, so you need to go back and check your sources.

TB3 didn't have the ability to script the systems you had planned; he barely knew any GS2. Even worse, his scripts are incredibly inefficient and laggy. It's one thing to make it work, it's another to make it work without crashing your server. ShadowBlaze is good, but he's not great. I have no idea who Zero is, chances are he's not that good.


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Originally Posted by Gambet
We have something called the Silence spell, which allows players to Silence others for X amount of time. The time is no-where near long, so I don't see exactly why you're complaining.

I know what it is and how it works; however, it was being used over and over on me, without anyone being near me. It's illegal to modify a player's chat like that. Delete it.



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Originally Posted by Gambet
Our baddy system is quite old, and I would agree that it definitely needs improvement.

So you agree our baddies own yours.


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Originally Posted by Gambet
Yen, you worked on Maloria, and were fired. Out of pure spite, you have decided to steal Maloria's ideas in hopes of making a better version yourself, to throw us off the top 3 list (daily playercount wise), with content that was originally ours. I see nothing worth admiring or worth praising in what you're doing.

I wasn't fired; I was too valuable, being one of only two scripters. I quit, because of your lack of respect and distreatment of Calani and Kara.
I in no way stole Maloria's ideas, but if you want to think I did, that's fine; all that matters is I brought them to life first.
The admiration and praise in what I'm doing comes from the fact I scripted a whole server in less than a week, while five scripters couldn't do the same thing in over half a year.

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Originally Posted by Gambet
BTW: Nice tileset in that server picture that displays when you hi-lite Zodiac on the serverlist. I wonder why it looks so familiar... :rolleyes:

Yeah, I noticed that tileset too. I think I remember it from Zodiac. :rolleyes:
Great job. You're trying to claim we stole our tileset now? Honestly, the tileset is crappy and poorly compressed. GG, retard.

Delete your account, Gambet. You're a complete failure, as well as your server.
Maloria's playercount is only high because it's the only RPG server you don't need to pay for.

Not once did you say that Maloria was better than Zodiac, so one can only assume that you agree; Zodiac owns Maloria.
Grow up, guys. You're a third rate staff on a third rate server. Please stop trying, you fail.


EDIT: irule13, do the account admins know your account is shared? I know I had the password to it at one point. What we can't see doesn't matter. What we can see does.

HAY GUYZ!!!!1!! I HAV A PURPLE ELEPHEANT BUT HEZ INVISIBLE THO BUT ALL THAT MATTERZ IS THAT IF HE WANTED HE CULD WTFPWNZ0RZ U GUYZ SO HAH!!

protagonist 05-04-2006 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSamurai

VT dont be calling others juvenile, its making yourself a hypocrite.

olol, was "hypocrite" on your new word list? How cliche and boring.


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Originally Posted by DarkPhantom316
Should of rehired me when you had the chance <3

No, he was wise in not doing so.

irule13 05-04-2006 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Yen
irule13, do the account admins know your account is shared? I know I had the password to it at one point. What we can't see doesn't matter. What we can see does.

Really now?
Considering i only upgraded my account about one year ago to classic i dont see how that is possible. My account is not shared, never was, and your pathetic attempts to get me banned are showing what a sore loser you really are.
Now do us a favor and stop derailing our thread.

papajchris 05-04-2006 04:01 AM

Zodiac never copied Maloria. Many of our staff went to Maloria after losing gold or just being fired. So you get the rejects (Not moonshine or Sunflash though, they are cool).

irule13 05-04-2006 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris
Zodiac never copied Maloria. Many of our staff went to Maloria after losing gold or just being fired. So you get the rejects (Not moonshine or Sunflash though, they are cool).

This thread is not to discuss this topic, if you want to discuss it you can make your own thread this is to discuss maloria and only maloria not how zodiac claims to be better.

konidias 05-04-2006 04:03 AM

All I know is I just went on Zodiac, went to the monster cave... and the monsters were lag warping on to me, I could rarely even hit them and when I did it just said "miss", and they slaughtered me... Awesome system!

My computer can handle CS at 80+fps and great ping, I think it should be able to handle a couple graal monsters walking to me and attacking. Unless of course, they were scripted badly.

irule13 05-04-2006 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias
All I know is I just went on Zodiac, went to the monster cave... and the monsters were lag warping on to me, I could rarely even hit them and when I did it just said "miss", and they slaughtered me... Awesome system!

My computer can handle CS at 80+fps and great ping, I think it should be able to handle a couple graal monsters walking to me and attacking. Unless of course, they were scripted badly.

Theres your answer right there.

papajchris 05-04-2006 04:11 AM

i can use a Windows 98 fine. hmmm Theres my anser

papajchris 05-04-2006 04:13 AM

*answer

Maniaman 05-04-2006 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Yen
I most definately DID NOT base my systems off Maloria, nor did I state as much;

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Originally Posted by Yen
No, I got no ideas from Maloria v3. I didn't even think of Maloria while I was scripting these systems, I was thinking of what I wanted it to do and how to make it flexible enough that I wouldn't have to put much effort into adding new content. Once again, you put words in my mouth, learn to read.

uhhh
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Originally Posted by Yen
Anyway, Zodiac's systems (which took me THREE days to script) are basically 'New Maloria's' systems, but better. And sadly, it's taking them months to script what I made in three days.


irule13 05-04-2006 04:26 AM

He's backpeddling now. :)

zokemon 05-04-2006 04:29 AM

Please stop this baffling bigotry. Almost all of you are being very childish. And if you wish to insult me Yen please do so in either a forum pm, through aim or what ever other way you can that does not interfere with a thread not relating to your insults.
Thank you.

GoldenGangster 05-04-2006 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by konidias
All I know is I just went on Zodiac, went to the monster cave... and the monsters were lag warping on to me, I could rarely even hit them and when I did it just said "miss", and they slaughtered me... Awesome system!

First off when your hitting a baddy, its either you hit or you dont. And by dont I mean you dont see any text or anything of the such come off there body, so they were hitting you and miss came off your body. Okay now to address the "laggy baddies", The baddies warp to there target so scouts or any other long range units lame them from behind a wall.

Moondeath_2 05-04-2006 05:38 AM

Moisdne, why on gods earth are you posting? I swear you are by far the rudest of all Zodiac staff members you trout around Zodiac acting like a saint, I got news for you buddy you aint jack. And yes.. the baddy systems on Zodiac indeed do SUCK horribly I took a look over the scripts my self many times I think i'd know by now. :)

xAndrewx 05-04-2006 09:49 AM

I don't like this thread.
First it was 'Let's remove Maniaman', then it was 'Maloria vs Zodiac', now it's 'I own you all at scripting'.
I'll change it now to 'Era owns both of these servers'.
Era has better systems than both!

papajchris 05-04-2006 02:15 PM

Eras Stupid its like lag city. As moisdne said the monsters warp to you so they cant get on walls. All moondeath, you havent seen our new scripts. And the reason you may be a good scripter is that you work on well scripted servers and then borrow the scripts and change them. Your tileset also looks like zodiacs.

protagonist 05-04-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Era has better systems than both!

Yet still manages to suck.

but not too much

Chris 05-04-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Yet still manages to suck.

but not too much

I see what you did there.

xAndrewx 05-04-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by papajchris
Eras Stupid its like lag city.

What?

GoldenGangster 05-04-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Moondeath_2
Moisdne, why on gods earth are you posting? I swear you are by far the rudest of all Zodiac staff members you trout around Zodiac acting like a saint, I got news for you buddy you aint jack. And yes.. the baddy systems on Zodiac indeed do SUCK horribly I took a look over the scripts my self many times I think i'd know by now. :)

I am far behind any "saint". I only acted rude to you becuase lets see, you abused as much as you could? I just posted here becuase you people dont understand about the baddies. (an example of this is the item you made that gives you more than the maximum amount of money you can have and gives you infinity hp)

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
I don't like this thread.
First it was 'Let's remove Maniaman', then it was 'Maloria vs Zodiac', now it's 'I own you all at scripting'.
I'll change it now to 'Era owns both of these servers'.
Era has better systems than both!

If you dont like it, dont post on it. Ignore it.I highly doubt anyone broke into your house, pointed a gun to your head and told you they would kill you if you didnt post on this subject. I used to play Era, around when that skank manager Jenn was fired or quit or what ever. Its still the same except now theres more rich idiots, more guns, and enough lag to make a dial up comptuer explode into firey ashes. The only staff that are somewhat good on Era is Skyld and Rick. Even though they completely ignored me becuase they were "busy,working,getting robbed, going to the bathroom, having cyber sex and elc." All of those are excuses I was told by other staff.

Back to the matter at hand that is how bad Maloria is. The best thing mal has is custom baddies. The only one I have seen is the blob things that look like stolen sprites from Zelda (not counting the fact that Graal is basicly Zelda) but I bet there are more. (also possibly stolen from some game)

irule13 05-04-2006 10:18 PM

Accusations of us stealing graphics coming from someone who works on a server with graphics stolen from Kingdom Hearts, thats funny.

GoldenGangster 05-04-2006 10:41 PM

I didnt say you stole it, I said it looks like its stolen. I still have no idea about this dark falchon thing becuase theres 4 versions of it. Dark Falchon Fragment, Dark Falchon, dark falchon remade and the old blue dark falchon. The old one is real real old, It was on Zodiac for more than a year at least. I thought this was about Maloria so stop saying Zodiac steals stuff. If someone accuses Mal of stealing something on a Mal topic, dont say that the other persons playerworld steals stuff becuase then it goes off topic like it did. Your develoment is sad, your staff is sad, your players are sad. You should have a server reset becuase there can be a chance something will break that could be serious and once its taken off the sever list and put private we should never hear from it again. Unless someone trys to steal ideas from Mal, then make there own server with those ideas, like Mal.

irule13 05-04-2006 11:14 PM

1) This topic is not about stolen anything you guys brought it up.
2) We are having a server reset soon.
3) You guys sent it off topic not us so if your so worried about that then shut your damn mouth already.
That is all.

GoldenGangster 05-04-2006 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by irule13
1) This topic is not about stolen anything you guys brought it up.
2) We are having a server reset soon.
3) You guys sent it off topic not us so if your so worried about that then shut your damn mouth already.
That is all.


1) Its "Maloria Development" and we are talking about stolen development, see the key word. "Development"
2) I still do hope something breaks and or many of your players quit becuase of it.
3) We said you guys stole stuff and then accused us of stealing stuff and starting a fight.
(I can number stuff too)

(Are you even staff?) Doesnt Maloria have a manager, co-manager, owner or anything above these people who can help defend it? Do they even care anymore?

irule13 05-04-2006 11:45 PM

This thread is about our current high staff problems on maloria, if you learned to read the whole thread and not just parts of it you would realize that, therefor you are posting off topic also.

GoldenGangster 05-05-2006 01:33 AM

(are you even staff...?)
I see your problem becuase the highest staff I have ever see on Mal was a gp chief. They could be dead or something for 2 weeks without anyone knowing. You need new staff, and they should fire you all for talking about them cuase it would be funny.


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