Alexander had some of his rights removed because he was messing with other peoples scripts so I gave him access to all his scripts and ability to make as many new ones as he wants.
Also, I own Mana Realms.. Alexander just told me that HE wanted to pay for it.. I didn't realize the rules about ownership of playerworld space or I would have never let him pay for me. And after speaking to Ibonic and gathering a further understanding of the way the rules are.. I offered to give Alexander Playerworld125 and I bought one myself. Alexander tricked me into paying so he would be able to always stay in power even though he contributed absolutely nothing to the project which is why he received absolutely nothing that was on Playerworld125.. just a blank playerworld (that he will never even use)

As for the ticket.. you could just NOT respond.. oh my! I have no idea why you even felt the need to say anything.. maybe just so you could look like you do things.. but you dont. Unixmad is more likely to deal with a ticket that has not been responded for. This may not be purely a problem with you but also with the way the Support Center works.

Stefan hardly has any idea how you are or how you treat people that arent worth sucking up to in your opinion. Unixmad has even less, if any at all. Unixmad also told me he trusted Nemesis above anyone else, and no matter what evidence I showed him to prove Nemesis was being corrupt he would trust him over anyone. So theres that... sorry to say it. You are damn good with sucking up to all the right people.. and to those who arent? You show your true side, your corrupted side.. and then when they try to respond or do anything about it.. you sling mud in their faces.

You can be a great global staff Malinko.. so long as you arent given power and that you find a way to be comfortable with that. You are great with keeping in touch with the public and making a connection betwee higher globals and the people.. but what SCARES me is that since you are the only one doing this you will work your way higher and higher until I am sure someday you will hold some position of high power, just like Nemesis.. and then you will do something so bad Unixmad and Stefan can not deny you are corrupt and have to remove you.

Not true. He's exceptionally nice to me and I have absolutely no power whatsoever.

Same with me, I have -no power at all- in -anything- and he's always been extremely nice to me from the first day I met him.

The right people doesnt neccesarily mean those with power.

False. Through past experiences with Malinko, he has never actually used intrusive force to "take over" a playerworld.

Why would he need to suck up to Shaun, Lord Sephiroth and me? He has no reason, yet he's awfully kind to me and always offers help when I need it.

This leaves me with one thing to say:

Malinko does a great job and it's unfair how you treat him.

Are you still trying to pull the Mr Innocent act?

You know exactly what you've been doing. I would of thought you would of been clever enough to stop it when you became GP on N-Pulse, but instead you were stupid enough to even harass me on tag too. And dont say you didn't know you were doing it, one of your GP friends you also got to join in on your act has shown me the mass you sent trying to encourage others to follow your lead. But unlike you he said he is sorry, he knows it was a stupid thing to do. I know you wont be clever enough to learn from your ban, I'm sure as soon as your ban time is up you'll continue your pathetic grudge against me.

Unfair of how we treat him? We are treating him unfair by sharing a vast amount of opinions about being skeptical of him getting higher power. Remember Nemesis? He was a nice guy! Everyone seemed to like him, he was reliable and did the job. But besides the fact of doing a job that a 10 year old can do, there are other complications that are involved. Personally with the current GO staff, the only people I would trust is Spark, Lyndzey and Ibonic. Lyndzey and Ibonic have been around for ages and actually have a true personality (not going around and using constant "have a nice day!" and "<3" and so on after everything they say... especially towards Stefan). It's easy to go up the global ladder and persuade people to think you are a great dedicated staff. All Mr. Bear had to do was put "<3" at the end of everything he said, which would bring a very "This guy is nice," appeal.

Graal has had too many past issues to just have another person come up the way and act all nice. There are reasons for the various complaints (for god sakes Lance's last request for g2k1 was to have Mal completely stay away from the server) towards Malinko. Don't ignore them because the issues DO exist. I do agree however he does a great job at answering support tickets, yay for him. But as Warcaptain mentioned... keep it at just that.

That is the most exaggerated thing I have ever heard. I know for a fact that Unixmad didn't just say "YOU DOIN' GREAT JOB MALINKO!" he said something else that relates to you being on thin ice... but in all aspect if I owned a game and someone was answering the support tickets for a whopping price of ZERO dollars I wouldn't fire them either. Just please... don't go around saying "UNIX SAID THIS ABOUT ME!" because older players can use references of past globals that had the highest respect at one time... which ended up ooglay.

... and you forgot to tell us why Ibonic removed you from the staff position... but the whole story/past stories will never be revealed, only the big giant
<3
will be seen.

??? Can I see proof? I paid for this game, I don't think it's fair to ban anyone on anyone's word. Let's see the proof.

I don't think you, or any globals, including even Stefan and unixmad, realize that with how Graal is a 'business' now, things have to be approached more professionally. If someone was worth wasting the time, Graal could have simple lawsuits placed against them, things from exploitation of obscene imagery to minors, which in a larger case has happened frequently, to things like copyright infringements (still), and in most cases, these are simple fault of Graal allowing immature people to manage playerworlds. I'm sure a player could be banned for simply stating their sexual preference on a playerworld in a decent, respectful way, which (if monitored by Malinko, of course) could escalate to a global ban, and with how hate crimes are today, could result in something even more serious. Apparently "anything on Graal is their property," meaning the uploader/creator won't get in trouble for this sort of thing, but Graal Online as a whole will suffer. Being educated to know things like this makes me wonder why Graal just bans people by word-of-mouth still, when there are several instances in which they could be taken advantage of, from a legal standpoint.

Until then, continue to prance around Graal and brag on how you've swindled staff into having me banned, and continue your ignorant, racist hate on Americans.



This post was so stupid that I cannot muster up the same ignorance to match or counter it. Sorry.

Anyones word? Haha dude, Nothing was going to happen to you, untill you came on N-Pulse and admitted that you were doing it. You supplied the proof yourself.

On a side note; I dont care enough about you to talk about you, the only time I mention your name is when people PM me telling me what you're saying about me on AIM.

"LOL ITS BACKFIRING ON KIRAI" Lol? Yeaaah. G-r-o-w U-p.

You got caught red handed, you are now banned.

These posts will get deleted anyway. Discussing bans, ya know?

I always thought it was a stupid rule, but now I see why the rule is in place.


Oh and btw, I love Americans! Especially the cute female blonde ones!

Haha, amen to that!

You people act as if having someone like Malinko up there is a bad thing. What fun would it be if all the globals were strict and such? Funfactorwithmalinkoaround++

hahahaah

There would be less problems.

I believe those are quite rare.

True but less fun. Not like I support corrupt globals but you gotta admit, what Nemesis did was out of the ordinairy and got everyone up and running.

Heeey, I wasn't trying to be funny

Yes it does. Power to influence, create, rule, etc is all types of power.

Change American to Canadian and that's what my girlfriend is ^_^

The reasons he has to suck up to you are so you will do exactly what you are doing. Supporting him! He is nice to enough people so that they will say great things about him and make him look good. It doesnt really matter WHO... just so long as its a big number. Nemesis did the same thing, so did Mr. Bear. Mogwai is 100% right.

We treat him this way because we have reasons. We have seen him trying to steal Konidias' account to steal Oasis, we have seen him abuse his global RC, we have seen the way he gives special (and unfair) treatment to his friends and his "wife" You don't see this.. why? Because Stefan and Unixmad want to keep it secret, they want to continue having a suck up staff like Malinko making some players happy so they dont have to. It's sad but its true. I have no big gripes with Malinko continuing to do what he does now, but I know what the natural progression is after this.. go higher and higher and thats wrong. Mark my word, Malinko will show his corruption sooner rather than later (even though he already has, several times)

And saying that Stefan hired you back even though Ibonic fired you isnt much to brag about. Not only are you pointing out horrible managment skills on Stefan's part, but you are pointing out that someone like Ibonic.. someone we all trust and know.. does not think you should be staff. I would take Ibonic's word over anyone elses on this forums in a heartbeat because I know he would not lie to me. In fact a lot of times he may be TOO honest with me. Yes Malinko, tell us WHY you were fired. Stefan is happy having you where you are because you have no power. I told him my concerns about you gaining power, and the first and only thing he said back was, "malnko has no power ;)"

I was unaware I was saying great things about him. I believe all I did was point out that he's been nice to me even though it gains him nothing but my friendship. Or is that wrong, trying to be nice to people because you want to be their friend?

No more right than a politician going around making "friends"

Its just political, trying to get people to like him so he will have support.

He's treated me the same way as he did back in 2003. Back then everyone on Val hated him but me XD

I cannot judge Malinko harshly, he seems to be just fine. He was quite nice while talking to me about the Classic Development Server, and I've never spoken to him before. Why wasn't he acting evil or stealing my playerworlds? Hm...

I don't understand all these personal attacks on him. Thallen, you're begging for proof to demonstrate why he has made certain actions. Present some proof that he truly is horrible?

Doesn't that request defeat itself? "He hasn't any proof toward why he has done something, why is he horrible?"

Warcaptain, you have no clue of the situation, so rather then make ignorant comments, continue working hard on a playerworld that will never even be considered by the "PWA."

Thallen please just be quiet x_x your comments are making those of us who are actually trying to get people educated about the goings on of Graal look bad with your rediculous comments that are only fueled by anger not truth. x_x

Truly horrible is not the definition that has been used in this thread. There have been no personal attacks at all (well to the people who are logically explaining the situation). The fact is he has done bad while being a global (and before, but most importantly the present), and most people wouldn't get a 2nd chance... or 3rd or 4th. There are legitimate reasons for the various complaints going on, and just because he has been nice to various people doesn't mean they should be ignored. These complaints are not just within the players, these complaints also come within the global staff itself, and if people would actually listen you might actually understand.

The thing about these forums though, we can't say those issues here otherwise the post will be deleted and the thread will be closed. We also can't provide further proof of certain situations as they are located outside of the graal online server.

See also playerworld: Babylon

When I was informed over AIM the day he came back and took it from Odin (Who, as far as I know, has still never been contacted about that) I got onto RC to basically try to set things right.

At the time of my logging on RC he had already given a level 4 RC to that "Artanis" person and I didnt know who the hell that was on our babylon going through all our staffs attributes and doing whatever the hell she wanted like disconnecting people and whatever. No online time and a name that no one on the entire RC (Aside from Malinko) knew who it was. (For about the first 30min of aim complaints, I thought it was a guy).

When people were complaining to me and I had only agreed to come and Help Odin as an Admin because he needed someone with experince running the server successfully to help him get it back on track, but I had no real big rights or anything, I had no control over the server. Isnt that getting kind of bad and desperate?

Anyways back to what i was saying, I logged on RC and proceeded to get a good laugh out of what was going on, because even through all my time on babylon there was always a really vicious power struggle for Management.

Alexander
Malinko
Calani

Alexander had it and wouldnt let it go, Malinko thought he ran it but was always stopped by Outlaw, and Calani badly wanted it. Calani got to pwa and began to throw that around, i guess it was contagious because Malinko seemed to have caught it. Babylon has always been a hotspot for globals and their buddies to run it, which is why I am not one bit suprised at the current situation with said playerworld.

I got disconnected and removed for questioning this Artanis person and asking what kind of server babylon would become under his management if he allowed people to just run around and do whatever they wanted (I didnt know the Malinko/Artanis situation at this time).

Needless to say a lot of people are really uninformed.

Why not get on the good side of some of the more well known players? No offence but if you think you are a newbie you are probably sadly mistaken, most people would recognize you if they saw your account in server options on a playerworld for example.

More well known friends is more outcrys for support, thats more positive Stefan and Unixmad may see, thats more muted the people who have been harmed will be, and thats more power he can get.

Yes?

I think a person is only worthy of being treated as they treat the other person.
That being said a lot of the posts in the thread begin to look a lot more legitimate.

What people never seem to realise is that Odin had gone AWOL and therefor, I presume, didn't really care to manage Babylon. It was an exact replica of a couple weeks previous when Kisharha (then Manager) had gone off and left us with minimal rights - which lead to Silent somehow wrestling to the top, going crazy (I'm a very bad manager), and eventually telling Malinko to do what he liked with Babylon.

Malinko decided that a new manager should be found, and that an outsider (someone who does not know Babylon's history or staff) would be inappropriate. So, Malinko made Odin manager.

At some point Odin went AWOL, so Malinko stepped in. And by "stepped in" I mean "forced entry and began to cause havoc". But nontheless, I'd rather see Babylon in the hands of a manipulative flying poodle (or whatever the accusations are) than in the hands of someone who would hog the Management position and disappear.


Indeed.

No one else had or has any idea why he was/is gone, and no one else will know now, because its been a little while since it happened.

Sounds like the whole processes actually never entered the "Lets think about whats best for babylon" phase, and thus skipped directly to the "Finally I can have the server I could never get before" phase.

Because as I understand it picking Odin for manager took a grand total of an hour or less, and saying that he did not know Odins history for coming up missing, would be a complete joke.

I personally would have rather seen it in the hands of someone who really deserved it.

Manager replacements are never supposed to take place unilaterally.

Right.

So Silent quits Manager, gives it to me. I give it to Janus (Odin) and told him if he isn't active and online in a month, I'll take it back from him, which he hasn't been online in a few months since I told him that. So right, I took over a world. Sure.

Now I'll await for Warcaptain to post within this thread about his OH SO EXPERIENCED staff record on GraalOnline: BABYLON! When he knows about power struggles I've had with the Manager, Alexander, when infact, we've both agreed with each other all the time with level four RemoteControl levels. At least I'm doing a thing with Bab, unlike others. Warcaptain, I remember once, when you were staff on Babylon! I remember Alexander paid you some $400 tablet or whatever for you to do graphic work and you didn't really do it for him. Though, I remember the times Kisharha told me how you wanted her so bad since you lived down the street from her. That's some awesome experience on GraalOnline, I wish I had that sort of talent on this game. Then again, I wouldn't do around using Delteria's work and find some original talent. Oh right, that doesn't include New World on MANA REALMS, since I see that in almost all the posts you post within threads. Zing.

Malinko owns joo, ****... Malinko is a friendly person, and if he does something bad, he's probaly drunk O_o

I don't drink.

***global msg HoudiniMan@npulse: Good Evening admins! I would like to take this opporunity to remind everyone that using RC while under the influence of alcohol or other intoxicating substances is considered to be against the terms of generally accepted online behavior, and thus, not allowed on GraalOnline. To answer the impending question "What about on client?" well the answer is if we don't know about it, we have no reason to be upset. So if you're not talking about it and not misbehaving there's no way we can tell either way. Intoxicatin is never an excuse for bad behavior on RC or client. Thank you for your time.

Well, then you aren't even bad at all <3

*High Five*

Sorry, I would probably have been the last person I would ever have expected to Jump to Warcaptains defence, well, im not jumping to his defence, just making sure you are set straight.

Odin was under the impression there were no strings attached, I dont know why he would believe no one would be able to take babylon from him if you told him that. The only way to know for sure would be to ask Odin, but because he isnt around now, we cant. That is quite convient.

I think you should quit worrying about stragglers who had contact with babylon only though Alexanders corrupt Management, and worry more about the people who 100% lived and breathed the server. Those of us who cared more to log on the server and work on making it successful then anything else. Those who arent even allowed to help now.

I do not agree that taking your level 4 Babylon RC and calling yourself "Manager" over top of Outlaw just because Alex did not care, makes you a very good staff member. Quite the opposite, while you are busy pointing the fingers at warcaptain, why dont you fess up to what you have done and quit dodging the questions and accusations at hand. Face them like a man instead of a person still learning how to use the space bar on a keyboard.

You did at babylon exactily what you do everywhere now, and it never changes, no one really cared that you did it then, and no one will care that you do it now.

Actually, that was Shavo Mombetto, although if you were actually on RC and paying more attention to details other then getting your hands on the management position, you would have known the situations.

Sorry if this is not the case but dosent warcaptains sexual orientation prevent this from being true? Obviously just more lies from Kisharha, but what could you really believe from her anyways?

I know I am not the only person who is going to find this as one of the most funny statements in graal online history.

Warcaptain used his influance with Global Admins to get what he wanted
Just like you did.

You two are really not all that diffrent you see, yet you fight like you are it amazes me, you hate the same thing in each other you try to do except you can just do it a little more often.

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Brin
It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert F. Kennedy
The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use - of how to get men of power to live for the public rather than off the public.

Power is ability, and everyone should strive for ability.
Abuse of power only happens in the absence of ability.
Therefore, people who have power only to abuse it have no power.
Also, Graal Online staff resembles very limited power.

You do relise, Malinko has put his job on the line for quite a few people but they dont seem to apprechiate it. He could be really strict and moody and ALOT of people would probably be banned lol

Hes even gone against almost all the globals just for some people, and if 1 person doesnt like someone, just dont follow like sheep and team up, for future referance.

Good point Tom.

But what I fail to understand is why so many people even care. Unless what Malinko does is in some direct way effecting you...who cares? Its like being discussing the suicide bombings in Israel. No one really cares, people just like to talk about it.

I crack up everytime I read that. It makes me think of having breathalyzer tests required everytime we log on RC.

Houdini ftl.

I never thought I'd see the day when Malinko does something exactly like I would. But now I did.

afk

That was the worst example I have ever heard on this forum yet. First of all, I pay for this damn game, so there should be a community involvement with issues like this (there has been for almost 10 years). Global support is one of the most important things out there and I don't know if you have even read anything we are saying... Malinko answers his support tickets mighty fine, but in no way should be praised for it. Congrats to him for keeping a constant steady pace with them, but let me remind you he is not the only one in graal onlines past that has answers support tickets. I know a big list of great globals out there and an even bigger list of horrible globals.

Stomping around saying "Mal OWNS j00" doesn't help too (I know you didn't say this). If that's your valid opinion about this situation then obviously the person really doesn't know what they are talking about and just wants to defend Mal, which is perfectly fine. But give us a reason why he owns so much. Give us more reasoning why we should ignore certain FACTS of corruption in the early stage of being a global.

Also Mal avoided any point by Warcaption and of course myself. I asked why Ibonic removed him and got no answer, but maybe that is against the forum rules... who knows.

*High Five*

Mogwai: I remember a long time ago, a forum signature I have was, "lawl luk @ meh i type liek dis i m so kewl" and Spark911 said when someone is thinking about quitting, then that's how someone acts like. Hilarious.

Plus, I'm not here to be liked, I'm here to do work which I was asked to do. If you don't appreciate my help, then when you need help, go find someone else, or if you need support center tickets answered, then put, "I don't want Malinko." and let's see how long it takes for someone else to answer. Chances are, Ibonic will be the only person to answer, no one else. That's the only global that I feel like is awesome on this game. So whatever, talk all you wish, but in the end, we'll see what happens.

Everyone knowes what is going to happen already, the people who are concerned about it, and the people who are hanging on you because of it.

Thanks for answering any and all criticisms in a accurate manner :\

For anyone else who may try to say something that was already said, if you "Didnt read the whole thread" Try to read it, youll save yourself some time and grief that way.