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SayianOozaru 08-27-2005 12:35 PM

?...
 
the "mobile suits" where supposed to be just a suit you would use as a vechile...i was catching up on posts(i missed about a months worth) and came across Stefan saying something about a suit like that...so i did that...but i guess what you guys are thinking of could work

Red suit - Hp: 75 resistence to fire, speed of light infantry, damage: 13, shoots normal bullets

(the hp is the amount the suit has...trails should be able to use, like a vechile you find on the map)

Blue suit - Hp: 60 resistence to ice, speed of scout, damage: 8, shoots irpulsar bullets

Purple suit - Hp: 85 no resistence, speed of cammando, damage: 8, shoots Blue Riffle bullets


maybe they could work like that, and "s" would be to shoot, and "d" would be a quick burst of fire (would let you fly like a jet pack, but only for 2-5 sec.) and, "a" would let you in/out of the suit.

anyone think that'd be good?

anubis_wing 08-27-2005 05:11 PM

weird ....

SayianOozaru 08-27-2005 05:23 PM

:p
 
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made a back side, and also made the "mobile suit" black, like you guys wanted... :)

haunter 08-27-2005 11:19 PM

So it's not like power-armour that you buy for personal use then?

anubis_wing 08-27-2005 11:57 PM

I dont like the green make it white if I knew how to re-colour I would but sorry to say I don't :(

SayianOozaru 08-28-2005 08:54 AM

if it were for personal use, the trials might quit, again(alot left when they were redused to 80 hp, and when they couldn't use tags anymore...) there would be to much of a disadvantage for them...and we can't just focus on one group of people to make items for(in this case p2p's) because like i said, trials might quit :\

anubis_wing 08-28-2005 08:27 PM

Add more to p2p less to trials maybe we should make it so that p2p's have 120 hp?

haunter 08-28-2005 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru
if it were for personal use, the trials might quit, again(alot left when they were redused to 80 hp, and when they couldn't use tags anymore...) there would be to much of a disadvantage for them...and we can't just focus on one group of people to make items for(in this case p2p's) because like i said, trials might quit :\

The trials might quit, or the trials might upgrade their account so they can use the suits... That's the point of a TRIAL... it's to play a short while for free to see if you want to pay for the game, or leave.

Its not to hard to make a planet where the suits can't be used... All you have to do is say that the government on that certain planet forbids the use of power suits... That would give the Trials a good place to try the game out.

SayianOozaru 08-29-2005 02:27 AM

ya, but half the trials i no can't upgrade to a p2p, 1) because they have no money, or 2) because there parents won't allow them to :\ so they can't just make a decision to upgrade whenever they want :( but i'm still workin on the suits...i have to make the walkin motion and everything :\ and progress is goin to slow down alot tomarrow(when school starts back up)

anubis_wing 08-29-2005 02:43 AM

OOOOOOOOOO school (shudders) it all comes to fast EEK I don't wanna mommy!

haunter 08-29-2005 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru
ya, but half the trials i no can't upgrade to a p2p, 1) because they have no money, or 2) because there parents won't allow them to :\ so they can't just make a decision to upgrade whenever they want :(

Well then you lose that half... Tough luck. The other half is upgrading to get the suits, that's making more GraalOnline money.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter
The trials might quit, or the trials might upgrade their account so they can use the suits... That's the point of a TRIAL... it's to play a short while for free to see if you want to pay for the game, or leave.

Its not to hard to make a planet where the suits can't be used... All you have to do is say that the government on that certain planet forbids the use of power suits... That would give the Trials a good place to try the game out.

ur missing the point

trials wont upgrade cause they dont bealive the game is worth 50$ a year its not because theirs 2 little advantages of being a p2p....trust me their r many games that r free that many ppl would rather play than 2 pay 50$ 4 a year 4 1 game....thats just plain ridiculous

haunter 08-29-2005 06:48 AM

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ur missing the point

trials wont upgrade cause they dont bealive the game is worth 50$ a year its not because theirs 2 little advantages of being a p2p....trust me their r many games that r free that many ppl would rather play than 2 pay 50$ 4 a year 4 1 game....thats just plain ridiculous

I know you're talking to me... But I have no idea what the hell you're saying.

http://web.jet.es/unepelde/imgs/pf_sam.gif
"English, MotherF'er! DO - YOU - SPEAK IT?"

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter
I know you're talking to me... But I have no idea what the hell you're saying.

http://web.jet.es/unepelde/imgs/pf_sam.gif
"English, MotherF'er! DO - YOU - SPEAK IT?"

Ok lemme try and speak more prefessionally (god help us all). Ok what im saying is that every1 goes like "oh lets take away trails rights 2 do this or that". Trials wont upgrade if you do that,they will just end of quitting.So dont take away more stuff but give more options to VIP and not less options to trials

haunter 08-29-2005 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Ok lemme try and speak more prefessionally (god help us all). Ok what im saying is that every1 goes like "oh lets take away trails rights 2 do this or that". Trials wont upgrade if you do that,they will just end of quitting.So dont take away more stuff but give more options to VIP and not less options to trials

What's it matter if those people leave if they aren't planning on paying for the game in the first place?

Trial accounts are for people to play on for months at a time... they use the accounts to try the game out, if they like it, they pay, if not, they leave.

SayianOozaru 08-29-2005 03:55 PM

but like wind master said, they might like it, but...

1)they might not have enough money
2)there are free games out there that more people play (simply because it's fun, and free)

haunter 08-29-2005 06:30 PM

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but like wind master said, they might like it, but...

1)they might not have enough money
2)there are free games out there that more people play (simply because it's fun, and free)

So let them. If they're not going to pay it won't matter to Stefan if they leave. I don't blame him, I don't care, and I wouldn't care in his shoes either. More trials will come... It's not like these people who don't have enough money are the last of a dying race of some bullcrap like that.

jkool666 08-29-2005 09:43 PM

Well, more people won't come because people usually come because they hear the game is good and if they become good then they upgrade. If you and your buddy say, "Hey! Lets go play Graal!" "No, that game sucks unless you pay 44$, hey lets go play a different game thats free that is just as good!"
Its like a buisness... If you hear bad things about it you won't go there when there is another one right down the road. (Example, McDonalds NO!, Burger King Right down the road)

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by haunter
So let them. If they're not going to pay it won't matter to Stefan if they leave. I don't blame him, I don't care, and I wouldn't care in his shoes either. More trials will come... It's not like these people who don't have enough money are the last of a dying race of some bullcrap like that.

dude if all the trials left...that would leave about 30 ppl on zone at max....wow thats some real fun.....all that does is screw over vip members or gold members.....so y should u get rid of all trials rights?

haunter 08-29-2005 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
Well, more people won't come because people usually come because they hear the game is good and if they become good then they upgrade. If you and your buddy say, "Hey! Lets go play Graal!" "No, that game sucks unless you pay 44$, hey lets go play a different game thats free that is just as good!"
Its like a buisness... If you hear bad things about it you won't go there when there is another one right down the road. (Example, McDonalds NO!, Burger King Right down the road)

I bet WoW sucks if you dont pay the $14 per month fee... Seeing as that means you can't even play and all... Lots of people still play.

Stefan COULD just change trial accounts so they can only try the game out for a week before their account is disabled until they upgrade (Like a WoW Trial card). But no, he's letting them play with a few restrictions. If they dont want those restrictions they'll have to pay, just like everybody else.

$44 a year is very cheap... Nothing stays free forever there are always costs that have to be addressed.

haunter 08-29-2005 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
so y should u get rid of all trials rights?

First of all... Take a bloody English class or two.

Second of all, the trials have no rights on Graal, nor do you or I. Read the User Agreement.

Nothing is being taken from the trials... Things are being given to the people who pay. There's a difference.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by haunter
I bet WoW sucks if you dont pay the $14 per month fee... Seeing as that means you can't even play and all... Lots of people still play.

Stefan COULD just change trial accounts so they can only try the game out for a week before their account is disabled until they upgrade (Like a WoW Trial card). But no, he's letting them play with a few restrictions. If they dont want those restrictions they'll have to pay, just like everybody else.

$44 a year is very cheap... Nothing stays free forever there are always costs that have to be addressed.

dude think about it....almost 50$ a year...theirs about 2,000 p2p members problly way more and he also gets money from ppl who have a server..that costs 100$ a year. Think about how much money Stefan is making.....y cant he just give trails their right back??

haunter 08-29-2005 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
dude think about it....almost 50$ a year...theirs about 2,000 p2p members problly way more and he also gets money from ppl who have a server..that costs 100$ a year. Think about how much money Stefan is making.....y cant he just give trails their right back??

You don't read very well... There are no rights.

Even if there were that many people upgrading each year (Which there isnt... 2000 is way too high) you have to take other things into account. Considering that it costs alot of money to keep the servers running, and he has to make a living, and pay his employees... He doesn't make that much money.

Here are some things to add to your todo list:

Take English Classes
Take Basic Economics Classes

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by haunter
You don't read very well... There are no rights.

Even if there were that many people upgrading each year (Which there isnt... 2000 is way too high) you have to take other things into account. Considering that it costs alot of money to keep the servers running, and he has to make a living, and pay his employees... He doesn't make that much money.

Here are some things to add to your todo list:

Take English Classes
Take Basic Economics Classes

but neway how about this....taking trials guild tags away.Who is that really affecting? Its affecting the VIP members who own the guilds....thats who....

haunter 08-29-2005 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
but neway how about this....taking trials guild tags away.Who is that really affecting? Its affecting the VIP members who own the guilds....thats who....

They can always find new members that have upgraded their account... The Trials are the ones losing out because they don't have any guild to back them up while playing.

If you can only fill your guild roster with Trial players, you suck at recruiting.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by haunter
They can always find new members that have upgraded their account... The Trials are the ones losing out because they don't have any guild to back them up while playing.

If you can only fill your guild roster with Trial players, you suck at recruiting.

um ya ok....3 guilds in zone....theirs like 40 p2p who play zone...ur really gunna have a chance at recruiting them over the other guilds

haunter 08-29-2005 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
um ya ok....3 guilds in zone....theirs like 40 p2p who play zone...ur really gunna have a chance at recruiting them over the other guilds

Survival of the fittest.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 11:02 PM

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Survival of the fittest.

ya im sure....is that y when hayashi was the best guild 4 awhile and then as soon as the guild tag rule was made they went staright down??? o no that really hurts trials...

SayianOozaru 08-29-2005 11:50 PM

ya :( only 3 people i think are left with an Hayashi tag....and i'm one :'(

haunter 08-29-2005 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
ya im sure....is that y when hayashi was the best guild 4 awhile and then as soon as the guild tag rule was made they went staright down??? o no that really hurts trials...

Yes, it does... Because then they can't be a part of the best guild... The leader of Hayashi is just going to have to work harder to convince the p2p players that their guild is the one to join.

SayianOozaru 08-30-2005 12:35 AM

uhhh, most of the players in Hayashi, were trial, and like i've said some people can't afford a p2p acc, or there parents don't want them buying it. And when Hayashi was big (b4 trials where reduced) who didn't wanna be in Hayashi?

haunter 08-30-2005 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru
uhhh, most of the players in Hayashi, were trial, and like i've said some people can't afford a p2p acc, or there parents don't want them buying it. And when Hayashi was big (b4 trials where reduced) who didn't wanna be in Hayashi?

Maybe you should find some memebers that can afford to pay then.

anubis_wing 08-30-2005 01:58 AM

I can afford and I am i've probably got the most experience faster than ne one else on zone! Not nescesarily a good thing (i.e I play ALOT!!!!) but point is I have gotten more xp than ne one ever has in 27 days

Wind_Master 08-30-2005 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing
I can afford and I am i've probably got the most experience faster than ne one else on zone! Not nescesarily a good thing (i.e I play ALOT!!!!) but point is I have gotten more xp than ne one ever has in 27 days

what does this have 2 do with nething??

and leader of Hayashi quit....leader of Hayashi was FireBoX

jkool666 08-30-2005 06:10 AM

Lol well I have a way to make a guild pimped out..... I'm the only one EVER on Zone who wears his Lost Souls, well Dozer somtimes, yet Lost Souls is still the best ranked zone guild... We got people from UnHolyNation to so if you make a guild make it multi servered then its easy. And don't let ANY trials in.

haunter 08-30-2005 06:39 AM

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and leader of Hayashi quit....leader of Hayashi was FireBoX

You mean the leader of Hayashi was you, Firebox?

Yeah... Your signature isn't egotistical or anything.

Wind_Master 08-30-2005 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter
You mean the leader of Hayashi was you, Firebox?

Yeah... Your signature isn't egotistical or anything.

no the leader was FireBoX not me

haunter 08-30-2005 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
no the leader was FireBoX not me

But you're FireboX... So logic dictates that since FireboX was the leader... and you're FireboX... You were the leader. See how that works? :)

Wind_Master 08-30-2005 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter
But you're FireboX... So logic dictates that since FireboX was the leader... and you're FireboX... You were the leader. See how that works? :)

Its a shame i never was FireBoX.You c how that works?

haunter 08-30-2005 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Its a shame i never was FireBoX.You c how that works?

Was he your brother? Or did you share a computer?...


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