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ForgottenLegacy 08-25-2005 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by calani
oh, that's a riot :D

But.. I won't mention the deal with UnholyNation where you're gaurenteed a Developer job with full acess there (and on un dev) by Stefan, and if you're removed from that position, you get Manager instead. Furthermore, I will not mention that Stefan logged on UnholyNation Dev for seemingly the sole purpose of giving you full NC access there as shown by logs, even though the head NAT made it quite clear to anyone that logged on rc with nc that nobody was to touch anything in NC without permission (and not having access in the first place is a good sign of having said permission. I agree fully). I also won't comment on giving your friends full access to staff scripts, against the will of the management there. Nor will I comment on the manager wanting you off said server because of all the problems he's had since you joined the staff team there. Furthermore, I will also fail to mention the plethera of stolen items uploaded there and on other servers: the most recent being the emoticons stolen from Delteria that I won't talk about.
But no, Lets not talk about that.

Instead, lets talk about how I abuse warpto
and also, how I abuse my global rc to log on and help a server with a problem
or how I abuse update level to fix a bug on GK
Also, lets talk about how I abuse disconnect to dc a random player that's sexually harassing me or another player.
or, even better, lets talk about how I abuse my server options right to disable npcrights so I can remove an offensive script.
Yes, lets talk about those instead.

You are the righteous goodiegoodie you make yourself out to be, and I'm spawn of Evil itself. I couldn't agree more.

Now THAT I agree with. z-z

Sacred Shadow 08-25-2005 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calani
oh, that's a riot :D

But.. I won't mention the deal with UnholyNation where you're gaurenteed a Developer job with full acess there (and on un dev) by Stefan, and if you're removed from that position, you get Manager instead. Furthermore, I will not mention that Stefan logged on UnholyNation Dev for seemingly the sole purpose of giving you full NC access there as shown by logs, even though the head NAT there made it quite clear to anyone that logged on RC with NC that nobody was to touch anything in NC without his permission (and not having access in the first place is a good sign of having said permission. I agree fully). I also won't comment on giving your friends full access to staff scripts, against the will of the management there. Nor will I comment on the manager wanting you off said server because of all the problems he's had since you joined the staff team there. Furthermore, I will also fail to mention the plethera of stolen items uploaded there and on other servers: the most recent being the emoticons stolen from Delteria that I won't talk about.
But no, Lets not talk about that.

Instead, lets talk about how I abuse warpto (you all know I do)
and also, how I abuse my global rc to log on and help a server with a problem
or how I abuse update level to fix a bug on GK
Also, lets talk about how I abuse disconnect to dc a random player that's sexually harassing me or another player.
or, even better, lets talk about how I abuse my server options right to disable npcrights so I can remove an offensive script.
Yes, lets talk about those instead.

You are the righteous goodiegoodie you make yourself out to be, and I'm spawn of Evil itself. I couldn't agree more.

Calani, Malinko was going to be removed from the Developement team on Unholy Nation for no reason whatsoever, from what I understand, and if you're not "goodiegoodie" why are you part of the global administration team? Aren't you supposed to behave and set an example for several other players whom could possibly look up to you and one day try to fill your shoes?

calani 08-25-2005 03:33 AM

Methink someone needs a lesson in detecting sarcasm.
But then again, maybe he's using it too and trying to fool me....
Way to go, you almost managed to trick me that time ;)

Sacred Shadow 08-25-2005 03:48 AM

Sarcasm shouldn't be used in such a serious issue. You should take your line of work on graal seriously.

Malinko 08-25-2005 03:55 AM

Let's talk about how you decided to change the server options of the playerworld, Maloria to gain yourself full NC access when the Administration clearly did not give you rights. How about this? Further more, working on a local playerworld without the consent of the Administration and then trying to remove the Administration for no reason. Clearly, adding NPCs for systems that benefit yourself is a great reason when removing a script that is called illegal to you. I'm sure when the Administration of Maloria tried to stop you, that was enough of a reason to remove them.

How about players submitting emotions such as the ones from the playerworld, Delteria were uploaded because they were not known to be from the playerworld? Apparently, Stefan has a good enough reason to give me such a high ranked job. Maybe you should ask him?

Let's talk about how you log on to Unholy Nation and start changing names in Control-NPC in a server news message from "*Malinko" to "*NubCake" or go around using your same ole insult, "Lol, I bet you want to be alone with Yen and have a great time, LOLOL! ME SO FUNNY! ME THINKS I AM CLEVER." Oh please, grow up with your come backs, they are quite childish.

ForgottenLegacy: You'll agree to whatever she says, so go pump yourself. Thanks.

raiden0899 08-25-2005 04:20 AM

This is very off topic and shouldn't be here. This thread is about toweapons, not you two arguing.

calani 08-25-2005 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Oh please, grow up with your come backs, they are quite childish.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
ForgottenLegacy: You'll agree to whatever she says, so go pump yourself. Thanks.

So very professional, my my. Lovely example you're setting for GraalOnline staff.

Now then, in response to your 'points.'

lets start at the top, hm?
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Originally Posted by Malinko
Let's talk about how you decided to change the server options of the playerworld, Maloria to gain yourself full NC access when the Administration clearly did not give you rights

Okay, let's. Full NC, ah yes. I remember making a point earlier as to why I would do such an atrocious act as this. hmm.. Illegal npcs? yes. Same reason here. Comparing two scripts on two servers to see how close they were. Stolen script come to mind? anyways, they turned out to be very different, so I re-enabled npcrights and went on my way.

on to the next, shall we?
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Originally Posted by Malinko
Further more, working on a local playerworld without the consent of the Administration and then trying to remove the Administration for no reason.

yay, bringing up this issue again. oh, that was a fun one. (sarcasm if you can't tell.)
Planning on deleting playerworld content without permission or valid reason is not allowed. Nor is conspiring to do the same. Furthermore, making it look like you are going to is also illegal. Every try to bring a toy gun to school? You know what would happen: suspension or expulsion, even though it is just a toy. Same applies to GraalOnline. That wasn't the only reason the two staff were removed, however: The second reason was their ongoing corruption and harassment of players, though this was cleverly covered up by the fact that one of the administration made it illegal for anyone except staff to have logs from the server. Rather odd rule if you ask me. No reason for it, either, except to hide something. They aren't damaging in any way, so there should be no logical reason to deny access to them. Clever coverup, though a bit fishy. Anyways, they're still there, thanks to the manager re-adding them, and, though they changed their tune about deleting said server, the corruption has increased if anything. If I were to enforce GraalOnline's rules to the letter, I would be forced to remove them straight away. Why don't I, do you ask? Firing staff is looked down upon from the rest of the GraalOnline global admins and higher staff. Though they made rules against what is going on there, I cannot enforce them without convincing others that it is a good idea and in GraalOnline's best interest to do so. That would be easy enough to do - just have another global inspect the server (not just look at it and pronounce it fine, but actually do a thorough investigation), they'd come up with something remarkably similar to my original findings. And to quote one of ex-Maloria staff "If another global inspected Maloria, it would be doomed."
Now that we're through with that one, lets go onto the next.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Clearly, adding NPCs for systems that benefit yourself is a great reason when removing a script that is called illegal to you.

hrms, how to answer this one.
Two npcs I added: one rp-weapon that was subsequently abused by the staff and given out freely by said staff. Odd, not sure how that would benefit me when the staff gave said weapon to the party raiding my nation at the time, and kept increasing its stats when they were losing.
Ah yes, the other one. This one really benefitted me (sarcasm). -System/Anti or something. I can't remember the actual name.
Someone released how to use Artmoney to give yourself invincibility on Maloria by changing two vars around (clientr.hp with clientr.mp) - that way, when you were hit, your mp would go down, not your hp. I scripted a system of my own accord that patched this hole, as the server staff were unwilling to do so. Thorougly tested on three accounts (two p2p's and a trial, all belonging to me so as not to ruin anyone else's accounts). It would simply check to see if they were using said 'hack' and if so, double and triple check the account serverside, then jail and reset the player. Not really sure how this one benefitted me.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
I'm sure when the Administration of Maloria tried to stop you, that was enough of a reason to remove them.

I think I answered this one already. (See two above if you don't remember)

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Originally Posted by Malinko
How about players submitting emotions such as the ones from the playerworld, Delteria were uploaded because they were not known to be from the playerworld?

Makes sense to me, though it took a rather long time for them to be removed, and other staff had to actually do the removing and make sure that they were indeed removed. Also, the manager on UN remarked that this wasn't the first time you had uploaded soemthing that was stolen. Might need to talk to him to determine what the other incidents were, but that isn't of much import right now.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Apparently, Stefan has a good enough reason to give me such a high ranked job. Maybe you should ask him?

Well, at least you admit it.
Though I'm still uncertain why he would do such a thing when the manager of the server does not want you there, and continually complains about all the trouble caused from your presence and actions there. Also, my comments about UnholyNation Dev still hold true here.
Also curious why Stefan would give the manager the ultimatum that either you remain a developer there, or he replaces said manager with you.

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Let's talk about how you log on to Unholy Nation and start changing names in Control-NPC in a server news message from "*Malinko" to "*NubCake" or go around using your same ole insult, "Lol, I bet you want to be alone with Yen and have a great time, LOLOL! ME SO FUNNY! ME THINKS I AM CLEVER." Oh please, grow up with your come backs, they are quite childish.

This one doesn't even merit a response.
As for the nubcake thing, hmmm, ever heard of the Fish! principles? Go read the book. Adding fun and humor to the workplace helps the overall atmosphere of the workplace.
The actual reason I changed the server message is what is important here. Three of the staff (no, I do not recall their names) asked me to add something about the LAT application to the server message because they did not have the rights to do so, and nobody with said rights would be on until the next day. Being them high staff on the server with the responsibility of accepting applications, there was no reason for me to decline. No harm done to the players or server, and it helped the staff. That's the job of a global, is it not?


Anyways, this entire 'argument' is rather off topic, I agree.
Lets get back on track, shall we?

ForgottenLegacy 08-25-2005 05:23 AM

Any one have any final words on this thread? I don't like how my personal complaint turned into a mudslinging fight. o-o AND IF ANYONE (*******) BASHES ME THEN TO HELL WITH THE BEHEMOTH!

z-z -Backtoscripts-

calani 08-25-2005 05:24 AM

*still has a white toga*
(reference to ancient roman history, if you're unaware)

Lance 08-25-2005 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by raiden0899
This is very off topic and shouldn't be here. This thread is about toweapons, not you two arguing.

Thank you, mister moderator.

-

Play nice, now.

And I don't think anyone really wants to keep toweapons working in online mode.

UberModeKappa 08-25-2005 11:00 AM

Whats that thing called.
OH YEAH A PM!
I wonder why it isn't used anymore.
Maybe it has been removed.






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raiden0899 08-25-2005 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Thank you, mister moderator.

>_<

xAndrewx 08-25-2005 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by calani
I won't mention the deal with UnholyNation...
Furthermore, I will not mention that Stefan logged on UnholyNation Dev....
I also won't comment on.....
Nor will I comment......
Furthermore, I will also.......
But no, Lets not talk about that.

Bit too late for that?

ChibiChibiLuc 08-25-2005 02:16 PM

:D FLAME WARZZZ!
Everyone should be a bit nicer to calani, she's the only PWA who deserves it.
The rest of them don't really care.

Regular PWA: Your server was taken? Oh well, too bad for you, please file a five page report on how it was taken over, when it was taken over, and then obtain RC logs as proof. I'll also have to ban you for having RC logs, once you give me them.
... WHAT'S THIS!? SOMEONE SAID HOMOSEXUAL!? AN END MUST BE PUT TO THIS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT LANGUAGE! BANS SHALL BE RECEIVED ON THIS DAY!

O_o But really, calani looks into things no matter how small your problem.


On topic: Down with toweapons.
I've seen atleast one instance of toweapons on every server. A toweapons even replaced the staff boots on Delteria with an abomination of a script.
:] I smite'd it.

calani 08-26-2005 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChibiChibiLuc
O_o But really, calani looks into things no matter how small your problem.

that's one of the reasons why I'm always so damn busy -.-


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