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Debaglio 07-13-2005 09:51 AM

If my people are not allowed to emerge from the wood, then how can we even get to Samurai or make plans for such event? We are not coming from Main, our ships sail from the Forest.

xAndrewx 07-13-2005 09:54 AM

You need to remember, you're not a Forest member. You may be based around Forest, but you're not in Forest.

MasterNuke 07-13-2005 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
If Zormite Empire is recognized at this meeting of Kings, why not Dark Forest?

Re-read my post.

lordbosh 07-13-2005 11:16 AM

Okay. Time to post and break the debates over who can come to the meeting. This is basically the Big 5, however, the five nations may also bring another group with them, as long as this group is to be discussed (No guilds like {WEPWNYEWPLX} and crap like that).

Samurai or one of the other nations shall nominate the Zormite Empire to be at the meeting. And if Bel'la would like to nominate these Drow from the forests to come to the meeting, so be it. This is the debate to end all debates. All people may attend, I have ordered the structure to be capable of seating about 100 people.(we had to fit it into a gmap it is so huge)

I also extend an invitation to all administration of graal kingdoms and all global administration that have intrest in the situations growing in the world of Graal Kingdoms. Please, sit and watch. I also invite the RP Team to record and decide on our meeting, to see what is acceptable and what is not when we are debating. All are welcome to this meeting, as I have stated before.

I shall be posting rules to the summit soon. Please read over it all, understand the rules, and (to all who are participating in the debates and such) be prepared for some tough debates. We are leaders, we need real politics, let it be born!

Debaglio 07-13-2005 11:26 AM

I do not represent the Dark Elvish. I am true Elvish.

Draenin 07-13-2005 12:40 PM

Leave it to Debbie to foul up a topic that doesn't even concern him, sucking all others in too.

Debbie, you are not invited as of yet. If you want to be, talk with Bosh. (Though I fail to see why, except for another jab at Forest.) End of story.

Debaglio 07-13-2005 12:53 PM

For Drae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbosh
Okay. Time to post and break the debates over who can come to the meeting. This is basically the Big 5, however, the five nations may also bring another group with them, as long as this group is to be discussed (No guilds like {WEPWNYEWPLX} and crap like that).

Samurai or one of the other nations shall nominate the Zormite Empire to be at the meeting. And if Bel'la would like to nominate these Drow from the forests to come to the meeting, so be it. This is the debate to end all debates. All people may attend, I have ordered the structure to be capable of seating about 100 people.(we had to fit it into a gmap it is so huge)

I also extend an invitation to all administration of graal kingdoms and all global administration that have intrest in the situations growing in the world of Graal Kingdoms. Please, sit and watch. I also invite the RP Team to record and decide on our meeting, to see what is acceptable and what is not when we are debating. All are welcome to this meeting, as I have stated before.

I shall be posting rules to the summit soon. Please read over it all, understand the rules, and (to all who are participating in the debates and such) be prepared for some tough debates. We are leaders, we need real politics, let it be born!

Hmm... ?

GryffonDurime 07-13-2005 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
I do not represent the Dark Elvish. I am true Elvish.

No more than Bill Clinton was a true Muslim. I believe I've already pointed out your ambivalence.

Zurkiba 07-13-2005 06:47 PM

I keep telling you...

There is no communication from the Drow state... The castle is surrounded and the armies are liberating every inch of Zormite soil as the days pass. If a Drow is present then it's some random one you picked up off the streets who doesn't know what the hell is going on, or it's the Roi of Forest. Other then that it's metagaming (the Samurai will send an envoy to the CASTLE. They're not going to be like 'OWOW, DROW KING D00D UR HERE!').

As for Zormite Empire being known and not your 'Dark Forest'. Two reasons why this is so
1) We went through the RP Team to get everything approved, you just went and ignored everything the RP Team said (just like Kefkin)
2) The respected leaders there of the Zormite Empire are not tards

You also keep saying that threads are always against you.
'THIS THREAD IS AGAINST ME' 'DEBAGLIO vs EVERYONE THREAD LAWLZ'
Even if that were true, you need to prevent it by not posting. That simple actually. You post random bullcrap that has no true relevence other then to ignite small post wars in which the threads will become closed. And have you ever stepped back to wonder why all threads turn out like that? This, Debaglio vs Everyone kind of thread? Could it be, that everyone dislikes you? Hrm?

Debaglio 07-14-2005 01:21 AM

Zurkiba and HMFOTSOTS
 
Tards? lol......

Drow of Forest... lol. The juice that I survive on.

I have spoken with RP Team, about every move I make. LoL. Your a joke Zurkiba. I cant wait until the summer is over so you dissapear. The only metagamer here is you and your level 8 self. Woohoo.

*I have an idea... lets skip the game play... mechanics.... items.... and GO STRAIGHT INTO RP. I dont think so Zurky poo*

csod123 07-14-2005 01:30 AM

i have never known Zurkiba to metagame, and since i have known him longer...the fact remains is that bosh HAS given you a chance to join, you just need to gain the favor of one of the Big 5

StrykerTFFD 07-14-2005 01:38 AM

Lies, Debaglio. One after the other.

Debaglio 07-14-2005 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csod123
i have never known Zurkiba to metagame, and since i have known him longer...the fact remains is that bosh HAS given you a chance to join, you just need to gain the favor of one of the Big 5

Obviously you missed it. My people are not allowed to leave the Forest.. or even show their face (the event that this is). If I were to lead them from the Forest, I would be pilloried by staff. Hmm......

Favor from a kingdom is not what I am looking for. Approval from this RP Team to leave Forest I was looking for. If I cant RP a Parade from Forest to Samurai... I dont want to bring my men.

I will be there, but not representing Dark Forest.

Googi 07-14-2005 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
If I cant RP a Parade from Forest to Samurai... I dont want to bring my men.

It would also be really expensive to get them all to come with you.

csod123 07-14-2005 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
Obviously you missed it. My people are not allowed to leave the Forest.. or even show their face (the event that this is). If I were to lead them from the Forest, I would be pilloried by staff. Hmm......

Favor from a kingdom is not what I am looking for. Approval from this RP Team to leave Forest I was looking for. If I cant RP a Parade from Forest to Samurai... I dont want to bring my men.

I will be there, but not representing Dark Forest.

i think it was you who missed something, this thread is about a meeting between the Big 5, not about what the RP team does with you

Debaglio 07-14-2005 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csod123
i think it was you who missed something, this thread is about a meeting between the Big 5, not about what the RP team does with you

It was about the Big 5 until I posted. I proposed it was going to be the Big 5 + the Small 2.

Staff said no.

I can see its now going to be the Big 5 + Zurkibas little Free Land.

csod123 07-14-2005 03:17 AM

Zurkiba is completly legit

Zurkiba 07-14-2005 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
I have spoken with RP Team, about every move I make. LoL. Your a joke Zurkiba. I cant wait until the summer is over so you dissapear. The only metagamer here is you and your level 8 self. Woohoo.

*I have an idea... lets skip the game play... mechanics.... items.... and GO STRAIGHT INTO RP. I dont think so Zurky poo*

Right...

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but everyone is talking about how peaceful it was when you didn't plague the forums for about a week. Not to mention, why am I limited to the Summer?

And dude, you dont even know what metagaming is. You think metagaming is living outside the game. Good job there :whatever:. And lets not forget how our levels effect EVERYTHING including leadership, roleplaying skill, and so on.

What are you talking about? If that was a hit at me then you're obviously very ignorant in what I'm doing. We dont ignore gameplay, items, etc. It just appears that way because THERE IS NO OPPOSITION x_x.

Butz 07-14-2005 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
I have spoken with RP Team, about every move I make.

Not me you haven't. Even if I'm not online, I'm always reachable by forum PM.

And the little bit I've tried to talk to you, I ended up reading a string of obscenities.
Either that, or you mock my character about the RP Team and tell him to leave, which confuses him, since he has no clue what the RP Team is.

Frankly, I'm surprised you haven't been warned about your vulgar nature yet. Especially some of the comments made in this thread.

Also:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
Why should I list my supporters....

If you claim to have support, and not back it up with proof, then nobody will actually believe that you have support.

I could claim to own the land deed to the Empire State Building, but without producing proof, I simply look like a crackpot.

Also, there is more land to the kingdom than simply where houses are built on. Assuming that you are allowed a small plot of land surrounding your house, you do not own 1/3 of the real estate, you own about .5%

Anyway, moving back to the subject at hand, I'll do my best to make it to this one.

busyrobot 07-14-2005 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
...

If you don't like anyone in GK and no one in GK likes you, and if you can't stand how everyone chooses to RP, and how they give precedence to long since established historical groups over newb groups that any fool decides to make after being driven out of the real kingdoms...

...why are you still here?

I get the impression that "people hating you" is the closest thing you get to normal human interaction, and as such seek the attention constantly. But be considerate of others, while its the height of your day its still the bottom of everyone elses.


I mean come on...if its "you vs. everyone else in the game" get with the program or move on to a game that shares your tastes.
If you join a baseball team, and then complain about how everyone doesn't like to play your way, find a new team or shut up and get with the program.

Zurkiba 07-14-2005 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyrobot
If you don't like anyone in GK and no one in GK likes you, and if you can't stand how everyone chooses to RP, and how they give precedence to long since established historical groups over newb groups that any fool decides to make after being driven out of the real kingdoms...

...why are you still here?

I get the impression that "people hating you" is the closest thing you get to normal human interaction, and as such seek the attention constantly. But be considerate of others, while its the height of your day its still the bottom of everyone elses.


I mean come on...if its "you vs. everyone else in the game" get with the program or move on to a game that shares your tastes.
If you join a baseball team, and then complain about how everyone doesn't like to play your way, find a new team or shut up and get with the program.

He can go to http://www.eclipseoffate.com/
They have Drows there...

busyrobot 07-14-2005 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurkiba
He can go to http://www.eclipseoffate.com/
They have Drows there...

I wonder if it would be considered unfair trade practices for graal staff to offer to pay for people like debbie to get paid accounts in competing mmorpgs...

Debaglio 07-14-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurkiba
He can go to http://www.eclipseoffate.com/
They have Drows there...

Thats my dads game. LoL. You probably cant hang since its all text no gfx.

As far as me going anywhere, I have 2 years of gold left. Im here to stay.

Draenin 07-14-2005 12:42 PM

Deb, you are a thorn in GK's side. You don't own 1/2 of Forest. You RP worse than a spaztic 4 year old hopped up on cocaine. Anything that is said against you, you have to justify by writing a billion pages of garbage about how you are God and how you own the world and all the people in it.

Stop posting like you said you would. You're making simple threads entirely too long.

Debaglio 07-14-2005 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin
Debaglio, thank you for making GK more active for everyone. Keep up the good work.

I would like to thank you pointing out that I make things happen.
I am a dedicated GK player, and enjoy the adventures thus far, and those to come.

Sorry I had to steal the attention from ya bosh. See ya at the summit.

Draenin 07-14-2005 03:03 PM

Show me the address of the page where you got that from, *****.

StrykerTFFD 07-14-2005 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
I would like to thank you pointing out that I make things happen.
I am a dedicated GK player, and enjoy the adventures thus far, and those to come.

Sorry I had to steal the attention from ya bosh. See ya at the summit.

Editing quoted posts...wow you've seriously hit a low.

GryffonDurime 07-14-2005 05:41 PM

Etien, thank you for falsifying quotes. It lets us know how truly grand your dellusions are.

Draenin 07-14-2005 06:11 PM

Shhh! Quiet! You might wake him up from his adventures in Etein land. You know how he sometimes talks during his daydreams.

csod123 07-14-2005 06:15 PM

since he can change the entire point of the thread with one post so can I. o wait, i ain't special. anyways let get back to the REAL topic. i want to go to the meeting but i can't, so if someone could please post what happens on here it would be very helpful.

Draenin 07-14-2005 06:24 PM

I will make sure to document as much as possible. Also, thank you, bosh, for wanting to hold it at a reasonable time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
Sorry I had to steal the attention from ya bosh. See ya at the summit.

No, you won't, unless you are invited by Bosh. Do I make myself clear?

Zurkiba 07-14-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
Thats my dads game. LoL. You probably cant hang since its all text no gfx.

As far as me going anywhere, I have 2 years of gold left. Im here to stay.

So go there, they probably wont hate you there. Or is that why you moved to Graal?

And just so you know, a text based RPG was the first game I played online. So just in your eye Mr. I know everything but I really dont.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin
No, you won't, unless you are invited by Bosh. Do I make myself clear?

I still dont see how Bosh would be able to invite a dead guy to the summit. I mean, if his RPs on Forest aren't happening then how would Bosh even know about him?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaglio
I would like to thank you pointing out that I make things happen.
I am a dedicated GK player, and enjoy the adventures thus far, and those to come.

Sorry I had to steal the attention from ya bosh. See ya at the summit.

Just so you know... Graal Kingdoms would be more active without you. But wait! You are the God of all that is Graal right? So when you was gone for that week or so I guess no one was on the server huh? Actually I think more people came on.

But hey, entertain my thoughts. How are YOU keeping 2002 active? There are people like myself, Bosh, and Alan who are keeping Graal Kingdoms active with events and streaming storylines. You're just running around going
'LAWLZ I CONKERED FOERST'.

Draenin 07-14-2005 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurkiba
I mean, if his RPs on Forest aren't happening then how would Bosh even know about him?

Because Debbie's voice apparently is loud enough to come from beyond the grave.

csod123 07-14-2005 06:36 PM

he is not here anymore, why are you all still talking about him, we should move on to more important things

Draenin 07-15-2005 01:42 PM

I re-read over Bosh's post about who may officially attend, and it seems that Deb will fit that category, so long as Bel'la elects him to go. But regardless, Deb, if you stir up trouble there, I will make sure it is stifled. If things get chaotic, and you are the instigator, then things may go awry for you until the forum is concluded.

Zurkiba 07-15-2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin
I re-read over Bosh's post about who may officially attend, and it seems that Deb will fit that category, so long as Bel'la elects him to go. But regardless, Deb, if you stir up trouble there, I will make sure it is stifled. If things get chaotic, and you are the instigator, then things may go awry for you until the forum is concluded.

And I keep saying that Bella cant attend.

Will they just magically know to go? Because this is how it will work out -

Samurai sends ambassadors to the Zormite island
Samurai gives invitation to Zormites
Samurai wishes to give invitation to Drows, but Zormites wont let them in the
castle
Samurai ambassador frowns and walks off.

No communication enters the castle, no communication leaves the castle. Even if Kefkin is not in the castle, the Samurai would send the envoy there and it would be intercepted =x.

lordbosh 07-15-2005 10:16 PM

I do have spies in every corner of the world, you know? I can get information to and from through hostile territory if needed. I will, of course, go for the direct friendly approach. If my ambassidor is turned away, I might decide to arrive personally, to see what the problem is.

!!Update

The embassy is still under work. It is about 30% done id say. If need be the summit can be extended to the next week for development reasons. (I do not know how long it could take to upload the files to 2k2 from debug) But I do plan on posting all of the rules and such probably on Saturday, so every nation can prepare their important issue to be debated on. (we will do 1 issue per nation, perhaps more, depending on if leaders can stay long enough)

Draenin 07-15-2005 10:41 PM

I still say the court should be used, and the embassy should just be updated anyway to be more useful.

lordbosh 07-17-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin
I still say the court should be used, and the embassy should just be updated anyway to be more useful.

Court = waaaay to small to hold the amount of people that will possibly attend. We would be packed out the door. The building being designed specifically to serve its intended origional purpose will be the way im going.


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