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HoudiniMan 05-18-2005 10:34 AM

Hmm, what about host name or something? When you get banned on mIRC it usually seems fairly unavoidable? Would that be more reliable than IP for dialup users?

Rick 05-18-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan
Hmm, what about host name or something? When you get banned on mIRC it usually seems fairly unavoidable? Would that be more reliable than IP for dialup users?

More than likely no.

Polo 05-18-2005 04:33 PM

jaillevels= in the server options disables all pm'ing and massing except to staff (for the listed levels - ie: jail ones) and its not too difficult to build a system which prevent a user from escaping from jail (unless they hack the server, like, properly). With those stopping them harass the players, just ban them for a few days if they start to harass the staff. Its always worked for me...

TheJames 05-18-2005 04:43 PM

Yea, lol. I remember when some staff globally banned everyone in Ohio, who used adelphia. We couldn't play Graal for two weeks, It was hillarious.

SoSolid66 05-18-2005 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris
Then you'd never see my pretty face on Era. :frown:

Amen.

Chris 05-18-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick
I was joking. :eek:

I know. :cool:

Brad 05-18-2005 08:39 PM

I would have stopped playing a long time before I did if there was no such thing as jail. Jail is fun as hell. I consider myself a badass when I'm in jail.

Gambet 05-18-2005 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad
I would have stopped playing a long time before I did if there was no such thing as jail. Jail is fun as hell. I consider myself a badass when I'm in jail.


Oh noes, Brad is in jail, run! :rolleyes:

Okilian 05-18-2005 09:47 PM

I think it's a good idea and something that should be looked into.

Brad 05-19-2005 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
Oh noes, Brad is in jail, run! :rolleyes:


Oh my god you had a high bounty on Zone and got a job by constantly posting BS which no one needed. Thanks man! +13 sweet-cool-phat points.

Projectshifter 05-20-2005 02:45 AM

Yeah, but the only problem is then if you have a corrupt staff member or an unfair jail/ban then they really don't have any way to contact normally. I suppose if there was a way to contact staff members (like a list of admins on all servers with contacts somewhere) then it might not be a bad idea. I'm all for stopping the *****s though, no worries there.

Velox Cruentus 05-20-2005 02:47 AM

Emails... And... Playerworld Forums... And... Forum PM...

Other ways to contact staff members? Noo... There's NONE of that.

You won't have to contact them if you're banned anyhow. The time would run out, and you'd be automatically freed.

HoudiniMan 05-20-2005 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Projectshifter
Yeah, but the only problem is then if you have a corrupt staff member or an unfair jail/ban then they really don't have any way to contact normally. I suppose if there was a way to contact staff members (like a list of admins on all servers with contacts somewhere) then it might not be a bad idea. I'm all for stopping the *****s though, no worries there.

Well now PWA have rights to look into that!

Plus this isn't a new right, the staff who are going to abuse it will just ban anyway. I'd say we're already pretty equipped to handle it.

Rufus 05-20-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Velox Cruentus
Emails...

If you know the staff email addresses, yes.

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Originally Posted by Velox Cruentus
And... Playerworld Forums...

If you have a forum account, yes.

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Originally Posted by Velox Cruentus
And... Forum PM...

If you have a vip/gold account, then yes again.

Velox Cruentus 05-20-2005 07:11 PM

Playerworld Forum => They are usually accessible to everyone. You could easily get a forum account. If you aren't going to even do a slight step to be unbanned, then you probably aren't all that interested in the server regardless.

Smutastic 05-20-2005 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Projectshifter
Yeah, but the only problem is then if you have a corrupt staff member or an unfair jail/ban then they really don't have any way to contact normally. I suppose if there was a way to contact staff members (like a list of admins on all servers with contacts somewhere) then it might not be a bad idea. I'm all for stopping the *****s though, no worries there.

Being Staff makes you corrupt. Players are innocent most of the time. Bull****.
Most of the time the players are just... stupid, immature and power hungry. Looking for new glitches they could abuse, insulting people, playing a witty outlaw who is too "kewl" for rules, etc.
Most of them deserve to get punished, because otherwise they would never stop being a jackass.

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Velox Cruentus 05-20-2005 07:49 PM

Oh course -- Human is an egocentric, lazy race. Slaves were used in 'real' life to faciliate profits and life standards (of a few people) to the extent of punishing others (large sums). This applies to servers with glitches/power. The higher up in the triangle, the more "corrupt" you can be. It's natural for human to abuse anything that comes in their possession. If players find glitches/bugs, then they'll abuse it at the cost of the large populace. Sometimes this ends up in global resetting of the server.

Now, for a person who was banned never to be rebanned is practically banning them for actively searching for techniques which every human secretely seek. And I believe that it isn't right to ban them permenently unless it possess such an imbalance, and an actual bug/glitch that you aren't in position to fix.

Best way to fix this is limiting staff, managing them strictly. But then again, if you're the owner, and corrupt yourself, then I don't suppose the server will go very far.

HoudiniMan 05-21-2005 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus
If you know the staff email addresses, yes.



If you have a forum account, yes.



If you have a vip/gold account, then yes again.

We already have this problem with bans. This won't be any different than the normal system except that now instead of timed jail it's timed ban.


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