All I asked is that you condemn the abuse of bugs as strongly as scamming is condemned. I can guarantee the same on our end, and I don't think that it is too much to ask.

I have always treated you with respect, there is no need for the 'when you are governor' attitude. I am sorry if you mistook my request for a demand, the condemnation of bug abuse is implicit as it is something people get banned for - I just requested that you state it for your members' benefit, since that one fellow had some trouble with that concept.

man u guys are horrible!!! just shut up... ok... a lot of us Pirates... or... u Pirates... since I quit a few weeks ago... RP on tag... we dont RP over "toguild:" fairly ever not that I've seen anyway... cept when we greet and say "farewell dear (so an so)"... and Alan if you havent noticed is an amazingly good leader through thick an thin... I dunno about other kingdoms... but when I was in KJ... our leader was fairly ever active and we never had any actual interesting events... and even now.... KJ's leader is inactive which is most likely why KJ only have less than 50 members now... so dont bring Alan into this or you will bring me into this... and I have a lotta crap to say too!!!

Speaking for myself, I have never brought the overall quality of CP into question, only the actions of one member and asked Alan to express his stance on the abuse of bugs to ensure his members have no doubt in their minds as to what is and is not allowed.

Ya, that would be accurate if Canada was a bunch of Pirates, who are SUPPOSED to pilfer, pillage, and plunder.

Edit: About time Alan that you start acting like a Pirate instead of a diplomat.

I always knew the Canadians would threaten to kill all us poor fishermen some day... which is also why I always have a shotgun handy to shoot down any huge bomb that comes my boats way!!! HAH!!! not like itll help... but... it still makes me feel safe!

CP is only a group of pirates in a roleplaying sense. That does not mean that Alan should act like a pirate out of character in a forums. Given that the member this thread is about was by his own admission not roleplaying and second abusing bugs kills your whole pilfer, pillage, plunder argument.

That would be like a pirate scamming someone and turning around and saying he was just being in character for a pirate.

But hey, then again Dustari is guilty of the same crimes. Only my observations blame Zoe, I dunno about the others.

Zoe abuses bugs to PK people on peaceful tag
Zoe doesn't roleplay
Worst part is, Zoe is a leader.

SO HEY WHAT THE HELL, LETS JUST MAKE GRAAL KINGDOMS INTO 'GRAAL PK GUILDZ LAWLZ', it would save me a headache :(

I have never supported the abuse of bugs, especially to PK or level (i.e. Mirkwyn of Dustari lvl 70+ in 300 hrs). Until now, I have considered the dropping of golems or food the same as setting ship mines - anyone can do it, so there's no unfair advantage. I will have to reconsider based on everyone's comments.

The respect is indeed mutual Padren, and I always enjoy discussions or even arguments with you. The only people that my respect has changed for as a result of this fun discussion is Zurkiba (up) and Raziel (down). Nappa has stayed the same :-)

Try facts someday Zurk, if you can manage. Out of curiosity, was the peaceful person she was PKing by chance a has-been former duke who was in peaceful and harassing Dustarians in the castle and refusing to leave?

Try accepting the facts instead of blinding your own eyes with what you want the facts to be.

I harassed noone. You should investigate the actuality more instead of just randomly posting crap.

I inquired to quite a while back of Mirkwyn when I saw her lvl, she is a dedicated alchemist and its all mental. If she has abused bugs to get there she should be banned, outright, no question.

As for 'ship mines' they are an unfair advantage as we'd never be willing to use them, and I assure you I will never engage in a naval RP battle with anyone else who does. I don't mean to force anything on you, but to me its even worse than casting spells on horse back, and I am stating what we are willing to work with.


Let me know when you've had the chance to reconsider them, if you will ban their use we can continue to engage in RP battles together.

There is a problem with that statement. Your Navy Commander has repeatedly stated he has been complained about but nothing has ever happened to him. Obviously, the leadership in the kingdom is having difficulties punishing its members for incorrect behavior. Complaining to you might be the 22nd complaint about that person and nothing would be done. Do you see why I felt with good reason to open a thread about this person? The persecution of everyone in the role-playing community will put pressure in the administration of the kingdom to severely punish him.

That is an extraordinary imagination you have there.

I love Discharge.

The Corsair spent two days at the reduced rank of Scallywag, and was forced to endure the ruthless torture of RP trainer Emily. He apologized to me and it's over. I would be happy to discuss it further with you in game.

I think we can all agree on one thing: that this post enriched the topic fully.
Buying the five seconds of my life I wasted reading this crap back again, anyone selling?

Technically you wasted five seconds that you could've used to write that post. Soo it's your own fault.

Peaceful is peaceful- I see no rule against being in a Castle IN CHARACTER not harrasing people. Refusing to agnowledge someone's IC exsistance, however abrassive they may or may not be, is a vast breach of RP protocol. Exceptions are when the person does not role play, a la KJ. But as for Zurkiba, who was Roleplaying, who was within his right to be in the castle, who was in peaceful mode which was designed TO PREVENT BEING PKED.

And more over, bug abuse IS bug abuse.

This small, obvious fact often seems to be ignored.

I Agree!!!

^^

I agree.

Zurk wasn't IN CHARACTER in the castle, if he was roleplaying, he would have been surrounded by the many guards, and probably run through the chest.

And should always be punished, no matter what. I hope everyone can agree to that. In the case of Zurk disturbing the RP environment of the castle out of character and refusing to leave, and using peaceful mode to harass people, I cannot blame people who find a way to kill the player dispite being in peaceful.

Now, this thread isn't about the maniacal wailings of Zurkiba, but about CP, use of 'mines' (bugs) and RP conduct of kingdom members.

Then I demand both you and Zoe submit your account names to Bjorn for a ban. Use of a bug to remove a King without Roleplay reasoning, and the fact that she DID kill Zurkiba through bug abuse.

If Zurkiba wasn't, as you claim, in character, then you had no right to interact with him- by your own admonission OOC people are just to be ignored. They don't exsist. Why, then, did Zoe make Zurkiba any different?

Gryffon lets role-play in Val.

::he moves his hand over his mouse::

::he uses his index finger to press down on the left mouse button::

::a clicking sounds is produced::

::he moves his hand back to the keyboard::

::his eyes begin to focus on the monitor::

::he move his hand back to the mouse::

::he clicks the left button using his index finger::

::the click leads him on a different thread::

::he hears the sound of his computer::

::he looks behind him to see his bed sheets are missing::

Anyways, I would like to know how that transition actually happened in detail.

That will not happen - they've already explained that they feel bug abuse is justified against things that they don't approve of.

Right, I was in character.

And if you would understand, AIM CONVERSATIONS AND FORUM CONVERSATIONS ARE OOC. In all actuality a parade would've been thrown for me and I would've been celebrated as the returning Duke who has been travelling the globe for years.

You complain that if I RPed properly then I would not hold a grudge against the Zormites in my character. But wait, you're being a hypocrite again.


Removal of Tseng through GUI Bug
PKing me when I'm in peaceful mode Bug

That's TWO bugs from TWO leaders of a KINGDOM.

I was not disturbing an RP enviroment. I was SITTING in the shipyard. MY shipyard. Noone was even on the Dustari island. And I did leave, about four times. Later to return.

I did not harass anyone - Unless if you consider other people having Dustari.gmap in their location in their profile as harassment. In which you must get harassed a lot!

Good, stop turning the threads into Anti-Zurkiba. I mentioned a valid point stating that Dustari is guilty of the same crimes. But it's always just easier to turn it against me.

Go blow smoke elsewhere else, you're not even trying to be plausable anymore.

Hint: Slow spell.

I praise you for that.
I hear that Emily is good! ;)

You're always just so high and mighty with your words, then when we use your very own words to show faults in yourself. You dismiss it.

You dont believe what you speak, read upwards... others have mentioned the same things I have. But because I said it then it makes it null and void right? Well that's just not how it works.

I know that it doesn't mean that he should act like a pirate on the forums. But he made a decision AS a pirate, in the best interests of the pirates. (And by that, I mean not letting somebody else, especially the King of Dustari tell him how to run things.)

And if you read the quote, you'd see what my post was actually responding to.

Edit: Clarified my meaning.

Yes, far be it from people with even a shred of logic to realize that ticking off the giant country that controls the most powerful army in the known islands would be a BAD thing. If there's any country the Pirates SHOULD be afraid of, it's Dustari.

Actually for RP reasons, I'd let things get very 'bad' between CP and Dustari before a land war would ever be considered. Even with CP having a more organized government than your usual pirate band, by treating them as a bunch of individual threats as piracy under maritime law, Pirates that do raid our waters will be pursued and those whom don't will not be on our legal radar.

I think that people don't find the full ground wars and idea of conquest that much fun, at least in GK's current form, and I want to encourage piracy without fear that it will result in any castles being burned down.

well according to me, u were below westford, which cureently happens to be the boundry from outsiders, therefore, going past that point, you were in a hostile area. And Arius is one of our finest pirates, So dont tell us to remove him jsut because of your ignorance of going past our boundry.
Im not sure if this rule was set out before or after this happened, so i apologize if im wrong


~~Captain Lunus Astrian~~

So now ur moving from arius to Alan huh? its pathetic you have to think of every little detail to try and ruin a kingdom jsut because you dotn like it. Calling someone far more respected then you'll ever be, is the most ignorant thing i have ever seen.




ok we can end this post, ive said what i wanted to say.

~~~Captain Lunus Astrian~~

Well if you would read the post you would understand that the thread isn't about crossing a line. It's about the choice of a KINGDOM MEMBER to not ROLEPLAY.

I surely hope you dont talk in game like you do here. Then the Pirates have no hope of return.

(Sidenote: Astrian, cool surname from Astri)

Wow lets actually see who made the two different posts.
One says Discharge
The Other one says Nappa

Oh my dear lord, there must be some grand conspiracy amist as there are two different people posting on a thread with two different opinions. What is the world coming to?!?!?!?


Right, because we know your proven statements and your clear superiority have made everyone hush hush about the discussion because you clearly 'owned' us in it. WRONG. Your statements didn't show us anything. If it did show us anything it showed us one of two things:
1) You cant read
OR...
2) You cant read

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=57301

And he just got promoted to Captain. Hooray! :rolleyes:

Just read his account name Zurk... X.x
I rest my case.

Laugh out loud.

Arius is not one of your finest pirates. If he was, then your kingdom is a very mediocre role-playing kingdom. Actually, it’s really not a kingdom and it would not be a role-playing organization of any sort. I’m not ignorant on the terms that we have, I told the pirates I was coming in peace. Your Governess is the ignorant pirate who does not know the terms because she landed on Dustari Island and when we went to go speak to her, she fled. Whether I was correct or not for actually entering the Crescent Sea is irrelevant. The fact is, he could of address the situation by role-playing when I entered the Crescent Sea. Instead, he chose to absolutely not role-play and handle the situation incorrectly while on tag. Do you see what I’m saying? As a result, I have created this thread to put pressure on your kingdom by using the Graal role-playing community.

Couple of days ago I got a message from LordMat because of this thread:

You think I’m taking it seriously? Go try playing Valikorlia. Yea I know it’s a game, a role-playing game.

May I ask, please, kind sir, why?

The same ? I guess that means it was already at 0 ?