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unixmad 02-07-2004 11:19 AM

That's not very hard for the server to calculate your "server" speed and compare with "client" speed, in this doesn't match you are cheating.

Also banning is not a solution but loosing lot of experience make you learn to not use trainers and still continue playing.



Quote:

Originally posted by Splke


How exactly could you detect a client-side program that doesnt even run directly, or even mean to effect Graal...

Wont people simply get banned if their caught using it?


Splke 02-07-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
That's not very hard for the server to calculate your "server" speed and compare with "client" speed, in this doesn't match you are cheating.

Also banning is not a solution but loosing lot of experience make you learn to not use trainers and still continue playing.




It doesnt effect your speed itself, it effects the games framerate. Your speed on the client isnt changed, or effected. Simply the client itself.

True.

Quote:

Origianlly posted by WanDaMan
Thats a lie, I saw you use it o_o...

Whats a lie? And I dont use it, I'm plenty strong enough to not have to use it too win.

Satrek2000 02-07-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splke
It doesnt effect your speed itself, it effects the games framerate. Your speed on the client isnt changed, or effected. Simply the client itself.
Have the server tell the client "Now", and 10 seconds later ask the client how much time passed since the "now" - now compare them.

xManiamaNx 02-16-2004 04:03 PM

...and I thought .875 was fast. I seriously need some items to increase my speed though, I can hardly carry anything without have a speed of like .375 or something close to that.

WanDaMan 02-16-2004 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xManiamaNx
...and I thought .875 was fast. I seriously need some items to increase my speed though, I can hardly carry anything without have a speed of like .375 or something close to that.
Buy some ROT's?!

MarkB 02-16-2004 08:31 PM

There is a trainer detection that Stefan is working on right now.

Admins 02-16-2004 08:37 PM

Yes since Sunday it is detecting speed hacks, will ban some accounts soon.

KyJe27 02-16-2004 08:51 PM

Rofl... there gose half of the Bomboria trading population... *Welcome to Graal Kingdoms* *Graal seems smarter now.*:)

WanDaMan 02-16-2004 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splke


It doesnt effect your speed itself, it effects the games framerate. Your speed on the client isnt changed, or effected. Simply the client itself.

True.



Whats a lie? And I dont use it, I'm plenty strong enough to not have to use it too win.

Aint seen you on graal for a while. Thanks stefan. <3

syltburk 02-16-2004 09:58 PM

I think i readed a message where they had realesed a brand new trainer with more features then ever.

Never checked out site though, but he got banned =P

Satrek2000 02-16-2004 10:39 PM

I just hope people don't get banned for lagging ;)

Matman58 02-17-2004 07:45 AM

My personal solution to the problem is.....I don't play Kingdoms.

Nidonemo 02-17-2004 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
Solution: Give more active staff more rights :)
YES! OH YES! Like maybe "Cleansing" rights?
Maybe hiring more staff would help, but this is just what I think. It's not like I'm asking to BE staff...
:whatever:

WanDaMan 02-17-2004 12:28 PM

What's the speed limit now?
I have about 4.9-5 speed... so like will I get banned?!

Satrek2000 02-17-2004 03:53 PM

I believe it doesn't depend on your speed, but on your client's perception of time. The way I get it, this hack pretends that the system-time runs faster, and so the client will do/allow more actions in less time - from the server's point of view. I heard lag can cause it to trigger, though...

WanDaMan 02-17-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satrek2000
I believe it doesn't depend on your speed, but on your client's perception of time. The way I get it, this hack pretends that the system-time runs faster, and so the client will do/allow more actions in less time - from the server's point of view. I heard lag can cause it to trigger, though...
Good I don't want to be banned because i'm friggen fast:p

TB3 02-17-2004 07:26 PM

On the subject of speed hacks I had designed an npc once that determined distance travled clientside and actual possible distance you could move server side in that ammount of time, and if you travled to far to fast for a long period of time it would send a message to rc saying that you may be using a speed hack.
Maybe, if your server is having alot of trouble like that implement something similar into the system npc?
Just an idea
*Edit by fast i mean extremely fast like you just transversed 3 levels in a few seconds or ran around in a circle 8 times in 2 seconds lolz*

UNPTWOPWINNER 02-17-2004 09:47 PM

What's the speed hack detection suppose to do? I'm sitting here watching somebody zip around in the bomboria trade area.
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WanDaMan 02-17-2004 09:56 PM

Well I don't think stefan would hire corrupt people who play graal suck folks as 'Argo' or whatever, she should give some 1 rights to get the NPC server back though, like Zoe/Wren who are not corupt..

[Edit]
I run at around 4.6-5 speed without my hammer..I get this without using my mith it slows me down alot so i dont wear it unlesses needed. I normally unware it to, So would that effect what the npc server says every 10 seconds or so, and may look like i speed hack? -_-
[/Edit]

Matman58 02-18-2004 02:23 AM

Doesn't the Speed Hack just overclock your computer or something that way it does everything faster..

WanDaMan 02-18-2004 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matman58
Doesn't the Speed Hack just overclock your computer or something that way it does everything faster..
Speeds the whole client up for you, like clientsided hack...

tc_topcat 02-18-2004 07:52 PM

account name monkeyjump was using a speed hack in main traade...he was moving and you'd see him at one end of teh room he;d pratically vanish and appear at the other end seconds later

Satrek2000 02-18-2004 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tc_topcat
account name monkeyjump was using a speed hack in main traade...he was moving and you'd see him at one end of teh room he;d pratically vanish and appear at the other end seconds later
This "jumping" could also be due to lag on either side... which is the main problem with determining a speedhack...

tc_topcat 02-18-2004 10:59 PM

but he was moving about very very fast

meishanli 02-18-2004 11:14 PM

Yeah I heard about this account "monkeyjump".
He was using speedhack then ran into the wall where Ghettochild stuff was and picked up all his items. Row/ros, mith, HSoD....

skyler87 02-19-2004 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by meishanli
Yeah I heard about this account "monkeyjump".
He was using speedhack then ran into the wall where Ghettochild stuff was and picked up all his items. Row/ros, mith, HSoD....

monkeyjump was probably just Demous or w/e the hell his nick is on another account. That, or that dirtyoldman/unwantedpolice/shadyvision/enjoi123 person on yet another account.


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