The players really dont about about the quality they care about the quanity of the servers and evetually stick with that server example Unholy Nation.

Who are you to dictate that? I'd rather have one really good server that 100 pieces of crap.

So would I.
Dont get mad at me for speaking the truth im not dictating nothing im just saying the truth.



Look at Graal2001 its a good pw but the players dont play there when the playercount goes down the players want a community not a one player server.

You ARE dictating it, you said "The players really dont about about the quality " (Im assuming one of those "about"'s was meant to be "care"). You didn't state it as an opinion, you stated it as fact. Which it's not. I am a player. I care about quality.

And how are more servers (higher quantity) going to help to form a community? Either the players are all spread out around all of the playerworlds, or you have alot of playerworld of which nobody plays, waste of space, and possibly money.

Finally; of course nobody plays Graal2001. It's far too challenging... Seeing as how it's CLOSED and all...

You are 1 player out of thoasands that play I dont need to explain myself just go on the PW and look at the playerworlds look at UN and Babylon they always have high playercounts but they dont have the quality as Graal2001 has.


:edit: Oh cmon nobody was playing it in the first place that's why you closed it dont give me that excuse.

I am still a player. One of which you addressed en-mass. I don't like being spoken for, especially when what's being said for me isn't true.

I never said how "you" feel I said how the majority of the players feel.

No, no you didn't... Here... Let's see what you said.

No, nope... I don't see anything remotely resembling the word majority, or anything synonymous with it for that matter.

Regardless,

The bottom line here is established: there is a difference between antagonizing buyers through popular server trends and "setting standards," which has already been done quite adequately by Spark. I remain right on this, whether people want to verbally express that or not. I care little about buddy-buddy defense tradeoffs in an attempt to win back dignity: it gets you nowhere and simply augments my presentation. I've corrected the appropriate people. Deep down, everyone knows I'm right.

I could say, "HEY, YOU'RE A HOMOSEXUAL HAHA!" and that would be true because I said it! -- Please. I've pretty much counteracted every ignorant proposal to weed out the less popular playerworlds, remained on-topic, and left whoever came up with that playerworld hieracrhy idea kicking for the surface.

POP-CHALLENGE: Come up with actual, REAL points to support such a pathetic system, or simply post to support me because you know how right I am. For an added difficulty factor, try doing it without attempting to challenge me, seeing I'm immune to desperate, myopic retorts from no-names and petty sarcasm.

Otherwise, swallow your pride and realize how right I am.

I'm not going to argue with you in a forum if you thinks its nessacery to talk about it PM me.

Hey, if you don't want to admit that you made a mistake that's fine by me... I don't feel the need to try a persuade you into doing so through private messages.

What mistake did I make because I didn't say "majority of the players" I thought it was obvious to you when I said the players.

anyways again I will say I dont have to argue about this look at the Playercount and see what PW is at the top.

Yes, that's what I am talking about. And no it wasn't that obvious. I'm not some gypsy mind-reader here.

another 2 cents
 

@Proteus_XP
1) What are people doing to antagonize PW purchasers?

2) How does any statistical rating system effect any given PW unfairly?


@The reason for this thread:

The basis of why there are so many pw with 0 users is that the people who started them got some ideas together, enough to start a world, but not enough to continue on, yet.

Basically, I suspect many of these worlds are developed more deeply in thought or on paper, and are hopeful they will get time/staff/help/players etc down the road, and are on hold more or less.

I think a lot of PW would be hesitant to join up for the simple reason that they have different hopes goals and degrees of confidence in their own vision vs the vision and dedication of others.

Anyone who starts their own server probably wants things done their way, but a cross development initiative would be a cool thing.


Now, as for ranking PW based on statistics:

The only thing that 'ranks' a PW is if it gets on the list or needs to be typed in to be found. Sure, it makes it harder to find a PW if its new, but it isn't like anyone who starts a PW should be suprised by that, they know how it works.

I don't really touch PWs, is there any resources for them?
I mean, instead of going through forums, a single place to see what ones have been updated would help playercounts.

Maybe quick world stats too, like, player count, average PC for the month, average player playtime (to see if it is just getting checked out for 5 min each or if oldbies play 20 hrs a week).
Last 10 staff update msgs, so you can see the dates and see if it is new.



Last thought: People explore lvls and quests and things a lot faster than they can be made by most PWs. So, naturally people burn out when they have trouble keeping a community, and they get a 0 playercount because they are in perpetual regrouping.

To make a sustaining community, you need to build things that have longevity that outlasts simple exploration. They paid for a PW so they have the right to try all they want to figure out what that is, or put it on hold I guess.

Proteus:

The simple fact is that your debating skills do not exist. Neither does your intelligence, and neither do your unwavering supporters. Give it up. Refer to:

http://ultimagamers.com/demotivators..._stupidity.jpg

It's crystal clear that you have no idea of even what you, yourself, are speaking of. You persist in inserting more advanced-sounding words in an effort to seem more intelligent, yet reading your posts yields pure laughter at the unintended word combinations you have strung together. Words have meanings - merely looking them up is not sufficient to understand how to use them.

With regards to your original, pitiful excuse for a point: Representatives of graalonline will review servers to decide if said servers are fit to represent graalonline themselves. I'll note that one of these "kids" reviewing servers is ~48 years old. But you're always right! HOW CAN THAT BE?!

Mommy Daddy stop fighting ]:!

All I've got to say is that there are many playerworlds and not enough players for most of them.

I miss small servers like xone and sanstrata. The player count was always around 30-40 and it stayed like that. Those were REAL communities. Either a server has A LOT of people or a LOW playercount these days. A lot of the reasons why people create playerworlds is for fame, power, and popularity (mixes with fame). I wish I had a time machine..

Continued support.

Piss on all the haters who've been put in their place.

I hate to get personal in forums and list names, because most people aren't worth talking about directly. So to the twit who CONTINUES to think he's performing himself and other people a justice by so desperately attempting to put down how precise I am in every way just because I and my (right now lazy) verbosity is something beyond their understanding...

All BOYS need to grow pubic hair and a pair before they can screw with people, including you. No one's FORCING you to read my absolutely correct posts, and I'm not shoving any "big fancy words" down your throat. You've met someone you cannot comprehend and you're threatened by it. You may of thought you were something before, Mr. Dominos, but Papa Johns is here to kick your ass; and frankly, you deserve it because you persistently provoke me. Reason: you're intimidated. Why would you otherwise randomly "INSERT" yourself into something you didn't even discuss. You're so busy trying to keep your other-smart-people-slaying abilities honed, you're becoming ignorant and demoralized.

Oh... and... your ******* pictures are overused and stale - I didn't even click on it because I saw the same link posted months, probably even a year ago. Using images to blindly support your need to feel validated and statured to superb people such as myself is either misplaced testosterone or one incredibly sad self-pathology. It exposes your need to be the superlative to everyone through some half-calculated batter-the-brainy routine. Don't condemn your betters because you yourself are incapable of distinguishing irony and ambiguity apart from one another.

Recapping what we've learned: people who want to randomly start arguments to prove themselves to THEMSELF or other people need to meet a shiny capsulated companion called sertraline HCI.

Look that up in the dictionary.

Hmm, wait. I think I'm misunderstanding something here... You're saying that no matter what you say.. It's correct?...

Dude, don't think you'll gain any respect or fame by begin a smartass... Leave the guy alone, he did not harm you so stop playing as he did.


With quantity he meant players, not servers.. You correct him on every misstake he did, so i felt that i had to teach you a lesson by doing the same to you.

Be a nice guy, if you want others to be as nice to you.

Be a smartass, and others will be a smartass to you.

He has to be specific. He didn't say he meant quantity of players. I assumed he meant quantity of playerworlds. If he doesn't specify things like this, people are going to make assumptions. It's human nature.

First of all, thank you for not quoting everything I said only to have me scroll down four pages of bold text.

I'm right all the time, yes.

BEFORE you decide to respond to that, you have to look at the rationale here, well, actually, you don't. Let's just put it like his: if you disagree with me being right all the time and have an open-mind, continue to read, because I don't like to waste time with people that have premeditations about me from their friends or other biased nonsense like that.

...

I use a semi-realistic, one-or-the-other system here: I'm always right until I'm proved wrong with my exact same logic. It doesn't make sense because not everyone uses the same logic, right? Well, that's why I make the statement. It's my rationale on how I perceive any set of circumstances or analyze and issue. It's self-preservation. What defeats the double contradiction is saying that my statement is opinionated, because it technically is. It's a motivation I create for myself an it's valid. I'll tell you why, if you're still with me.

...

Unless you can prove that your statement is completely absolute, it is always subjective: this is fact, and it's also extraneous because it modifies fact and fiction itself. So if I were to say that I'm always right about everything I say, as long as it's not mathetmical or already proven, which I always ensure to cover my tracks anyway, I'm right.

If YOU were to say you're right about everything when dealing with non-absolute subjects, you are also right. Many people don't understand how to deal with complex depths of logic like that, which is why they antagonize me. It's a way of rationalizing something remote an unattainable -- and that is pure fact in the presence of subjectivity.

Philosophize.

You remind me of something I heard on the television. The creator of Dilbert was being interviewed and he said something along the lines of:

If you go on the internet and look for papers about scientific subjects, you can find ones that have information and theroies widly accepted in the scientific world, and one's that some crack pot wrote... When you read them both, you can't tell the difference between the crack-pot and the accepted genious...


Now, I'm not saying you're the genious, I'm not saying your the crack pot either... That interview just came to mind when I read your post for some reason. Perhaps it's because there are bits I don't fully understand, or maybe I was watching Dilbert subconsciously or something... @_@;

Hey now.

Don't underestimate the crackhead, crack-pot... or ...whatever it was. Rarely, when someone gets intoxicated enough, their brain kind of "loops" back to some astronomical wavelength of thought. This was observed in several psychological experiments -- though it only worked with select combinations of substances.

Still interesting though. Maybe I'll get high tonight.

I'll believe it when I see the test results... Maybe... ;P

Then I'll invest in one of those tin-foil hats that the guy sitting in outside of the mall is selling...

This discussion is very interesting to say the least, but lets post with alot less insults please

If you are the adult you appear to be then it is also safe to assume you know better than to come off as strong as you are in your post. Although I do find this very humorous and stimulating from most of the blah dull post that are normally posted here, it is advisable to "tone down" your post a notch. I would be bitterly disappointed to see you banned for excessive insults. Besides to point out abstract logic to those who cannot understand relative logic is like talking to an audience of pigs, pretty much a waste of time unless you happen to like the smell of a pigpen.

Ohh yea I am the "48 year old kid " who is on the Playerworld Administration Team who is involved in inspections and rule making standards of the PlayerWorlds. Boasting you are always right by use of abstract reasoning to justify your statement "I am always right" is humorous but also subjective to the reader's comprehension of subjective thought. Making a statement like that is about as useful as debating the old " If a tree falls in the woods and yet no one is around to hear it fall; did it really make a sound?" That could go on for years and never leave ground zero with the debate. On a side note since your always right, how about telling me the Lotto numbers for this weekend, I could always use the extra bucks. :grin: :p

I believe the saying is:

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? :rolleyes:

Your version made no sense.

Your right it didn't , Sorry it seems I had a brain fart...:P

Been a long day at work...;)

I'm well aware of who you are, Moon God -- if that is your Graal name. I ocassionally visited N-Pulse while you and Moon Goddess managed it. I harassed her alot when I was there but she doesn't remember me because of identity coverups and all that jazz. You were too busy to answer my hilarious PMs about how to play Graal and what a hookshot was, so...

Anyway, to be honest, I'm surprised the moderators of the forums didn't ban me and/or delete all of my posts by now. Usually by my third post I get banned from forums because I either speak the truth about things that no one wants to hear even though they know it's true because I said it, or because I'm too 'real' and in-your-face, like some outdated hippie. I truely cannot figure out why I'm not banned here yet, though it wasn't my intentions to get banned at all -- it's just in my character to stay erected (CONTEXT) at all times.

When people constantly prod and tug at my nerves as if initiating some primal challenge, they just end up unleashing something unpleasant and that's when I get banned. I don't deal with people who start arguments with me because they suck. I realize how strong I come off, and it's a healthy bravado. I sit here constantly reading people quoting each other's posts monotonously and never finding resolve in their petty arguments. I'm like OMG... just admit that so and so is better than what's his name and be done with it. Usually, the underlying opinion that's never spoken is suppressed simply because it's right; and that's just some maniacal device people use to perpetuate meaningless conflicts. I just spotted a thread I found particularly interesting and decided to spend a pence on it. What gets on my nerves is when people cacophonously ridicule my polished perspective by using that same quote-and-jab tactic: contradicting every sentence in a post with nonsense, telling people what they meant by their own statements, and, most obnoxiously, pointing out the ocassional grammatical or spelling error I inadvertently make once in every 4 trillion posts to prove that they're the true comma splicing masters of the english language. Level up, retard.

Now, concerning you in particular, if you very, very carefully read my posts, ignoring the... stuff ...from other responses to my posts, you will not see what you thought you saw concerning you and the PWA. In fact, you will see the opposite, I'll speculate. Like I said, I almost seamlessly cover my tracks with the things I say about generic groups, even when it's misplaced and extreme. That's all I'm going to say about that, as I like to let people discover for themselves my meaning most often. Keep in mind that I'm not some ranting lunatic completely ignorant of the staff and persons around me.

Moderators who don't ban me have open minds.

If i say i'm gonna buy a car, will you go and yell that i'm buying a blue car? No, you can't just make assumptions like that.

Genesis isn't the best english writer.. He may be from USA but that doesn't mean he is the perfect writer.

If you would of taken the time needed, you would of understood his context.

Lance/Tseng stole the words from my mouth.
Your arguments are weak and you have a poor excuse for debating skills; 2/3 of what you say is flaming and boasting of things that aren't even significantly relevant. I'm not surprised you weren't banned but usually a warning would be issued for that sort of behavior. Would be really dandy if you'd roll yourself into a box in an alley or so with your self proclaimed greatness before the sanitary engineers show up.

Boo hoo, you've been crushed, get over it. Don't relay your humiliation to other people who have been submitted likewise. It crosses the line from cheap to pathetic and only makes the golden bells of my glorious victory resonate even more. If this were a debate, you'd be wandering your own self-concept in ignorance, searching for a new identity by now.

Bump systems suck. Everything I like is great. Period.

You know what'll be great?

When your world comes crashing down around you.

I made this thread and I have no idea what you guys are talking about. lol

I sense a hornet's nest in here....:]

*pokes*

Anyway, its the person's money. Let them do with it as they wish. Its just like buying an account :p If a person wants to spend the $40 for full Gold then let them. Its not going to hurt you in anyway unless you happen to have some grudge against GO, which is not something I can quite grasp why (see also: anti-graal group).

On a side note, proteus_xp, for whatever reason, reminds me of Fawful from Mario&Luigi: Superstar Saga. Don't know why, but that's just something I sense :x Perhaps someone has found a way to extract such things from the realm of the imaginary to this world?



*edit*
-=Shameless Plug Alert=-
Perhaps I could find someone to assist me with my playerworld, hmm? Especially in the area of scripting, yes?

Kinda reminds me of T3ck or Toran... :P

I know very little about T3ck other than he is a public nusiance and is not to be trusted. As for Torankusu I don't know him all that well. :x

Though your spirited analogies of antiquated games and 2D Graalians are amusing, I am very, VERY real. Now resume doing whatever it is you... do on this game besides reviving lost causes in hopes that I won't retaliate and spitefully cursing my reality from your ego-shattered wraths. This isn't some ficticious 16x16 sprite infested fantasy world; it's a reality check. Get used to it.

I've won, dry your tears. Move on.

Sadly, you completely lost me :/ Don't know really what you're trying to get at. I wasn't attacking....maybe trying to provoke as I enjoy a good show (I need to remind myself to get more popcorn for these).

And besides, 16x16 sprites are too small to work with :p

This thread makes me want to invent a device that checks one's intelligence, that way ,we could have 2 Internet Communities, 1 would be full of idiots and another would have me in it.

Now look at idiots saying something along the lines of "Where will the smart people go? LOLOLOLOLOL"