If they can't afford to pay any other staff to help manage things, how can you complain?

I know nothing of their "staff" (as far as I know, the only people that work for money are Stefan and Unixmad), nor do I know anything about how much they make. By this lack of knowledge, I refuse to comment at this time about that. Enlighten me with facts, then we talk.

Well.. see G3k, wanted to have a newspaper system and wanted to save old newspapers. Like if you had a newspaper that was the first issue, you can save it. Also, it could save hudge files, like davidpsy said (sorry I dont know your Graal name :( )
Also, if illigal files are uploaded, its all connected to a site, and not through Graal, so if they have anything illigal the site would be in trouble, witch Graal cant get in trouble for.

You completely missed Houdini's point. GServer (and the client, to some extent), not NPCServer, handles the file distribution.

Ooooh, I see now. Sorry I got the two terms mixed up.. my bad :(

Ok it's been said i know bodies from graal2001 is a trademark of that server... But before i start i can do graphics but sprites seems difficult to me. I have tried many times to make a perfect character walking but always end up stopping. But since i seen Archaic have edited graal kingdoms bodies are other server allowed to edit graal2001 bodies as well? I just need a simple body with a walking sprite just like graal2001 as a tamplate i don't wish to edit it without anyone permission. I can use a simple body and create it like the character you see in my signature. But i just need a tamplate of walking sprites

As long as the gfx and ganis are notably different, there's not _too_ much of a problem. I'd personally rather you didn't, though.

ETD Geo had Npulse for maybe a year or a year and a half , we have had Npulse 2x as long as Geo did . You really need to get your times straight if you intend to post about Npulse.

I said that Geo had n-pulse for 'several years' because i was not sure of how long.. i know that i played n-pulse for 1/2 a year before you took it over, and from what i could tell, Geo had n-pulse up for over a year before that, which would be 1.5 years... (i will ask NightFall exactly how long later)
and you have had n-pulse for 2.5 years (as i said) because you took over late winter of 2001, and this is late summer of 2003...

I think my times were just fine, and it still withstood the whole point of the example, which was that both of you were manager for a long time, and which person would be asked, if there was to be a recreation? (assuming n-pulse was a dead server)

and my question was answered, i don't see why you posted this, other than to start some kind of argument
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It was just a correction, nothing more ETD...please dont make more of it then it is, no more arguing needs to be done :(

but was there even a need to correct me? i mean, my point was understood, and the question was answered... then way after the fact MG comes on, to be picky about how long Geo owned n-pulse, when i didn't even state an exact amount of time?
I don't want to argue either, but I see no point in his post other than to start an argument
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Please dont argue in this thread. Dont reply about who started it, or that you didnt do anything, just stop.

You could simply name the images with a system of numbers and script it to display the picture matching the requested number. IE: newspaper-12.png or newspaper12-4-03.png or newspaper_current.png etc...

Just save each one in the graphics folder and have the script call the file names.
You could also easily script it to show only the papers the player has obtained or whatever you'd like.

Why not just script the display of a newspaper, instead of wasting precious HD space/time making graphics for it?

And you call yourself a scripter.

It was July of 2001 ETD , I know exactly when we took over.One thing I have always done is I keep logs and documents on everything concerning Npulse. You may be surprised on what I have stored on Npulse, the Staff and players of Npulse, records are the thing I do have the most of on Npulse. You are assumimg too much when it comes to Npulse because I will pay for it to stay up regardless of the player count , even if it is only 5 people but then again this is none of your business and I would appreciate you keeping your nose out of where it is not wanted or belongs. Try taking care of your own server and less what goes on Npulse. If you spent half as much time talking about EOA as you do Npulse your player count (which means more to you than me because player counts don't concern me one way or another) might be higher.

I have said all I have to say Spark...

I miss Geo.

ok, so then you have managed n-pulse for a little over 2 years? what is your point? i said that you managed it for 2.5, which was LONGER than you have actually done so...
good for you? :confused:
ok, so you'll pay for it... so? i never said you wouldn't, i don't see how this has ANYTHING to do with anything that has been stated in this thread at all... :confused:
I spend 2 times as much time working on my server, than you spend on your server, so why don't you mind your own buisness, just like you're trying to tell me to do, k?
Also, why would i care about player count? My PW isn't even done yet, and is still UC... there is only 1 level open to the public... i don't expect to get players till we open, and when we do open, THEN i will worry about player count... (again, what does this have to do with the topic?)
Spark, i would rather see both my, and his messages deleted
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but if you leave his message, then i see it only fair to leave my reply as well. I have started no new arguments in this post, i have only responded to the attacks made by Moon God (that's really all i've done so far)

MG's post has nothing to do with the topic, and is only serving as an outlet for his personal hatred for me :\ I wish for it, and this post, to be deleted, and if he continues to start fights like this, i'd like him warned

Because then to save them you'd need a new npc or a rediculously large one. But im sure you'd think of some inane DB NPC to store it all in right?...

Graphics are easy to make templates for and much easier to fiddle with than scripts... "Precious HD space" has any world run out yet?... I haven't heard of any...

Bandwhith(sp?) (sorry, i'm tired, and can't spell)

I don't think it'd be hard to make a newspaper NPC.

Nah it's not hard, Tseng just likes to nit-pick and split hairs when i post, wonder if he's following me o_O

A DB-NPC could work. So could some client.strings. So could internal this.strings within the newspaper weapon. There are, as usual, several ways to go about this.

Why waste space when you don't have to? Of course, with your same argument, pollution is not a problem because the world has not run out of air yet. ;)

Another flawed analogy du Tseng.

Flawed how?

Damn, you beat me to it. :)

And you both beat me. :)

I look forward to seeing someone explain it to him :)!

Pollution can't be deleted and reorganized... If you can do it by all means go ahead, you'd probably be able to make some money.

It can be ejected from the planet or - in some cases - chemically altered into a harmless state.

It can be dumped in insignificant locations (deep underground etc).



Sure, all of these take time and effort, but that applies equally to drive cleanups.

It is comparitively much more of a hastle to do that to pollution that a file on a hard drive. It's just as easy to make a graphic as it is to store 1400 variables :rolleyes:

Do NPC servers have space limitations? I assume they're stored somewhere as txt files but never have looked in to it besides classes

With all due respect (very little), you don't know what you're talking about. Very few variables would be needed, and they wouldn't consume much space. And if you want to talk about ease of use then how about the hassle that would be necessary to fix a typo, if the newspapers were stored in image format. We're scripters, dude. This is what we do. Stick to... whatever it is that you do.

As for the pollution analogy, I think it's been demonstrated that the analogy fits. You might argue about scales, but in doing so you're missing the point of metaphors, and clearly just evading the real issues.

NPC Servers are not text files. The scripts they use are stored as text files somewhere, but they're usually comparatively small (even 10KB is nothing) and there's no real limit.

He thinks he's a scripter. :(

Any bets that he doesn't comprehend "stored in memory" either?

I vote this thread be closed
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it hasn't been on topic in a long while, and you guys can continue your conversation in another place if it is needed.
Anyone second this?

There's no rule against off-topic posting.

you guys are just arguing about scripting.... can't you make a thread in the scripting section about it or something?
and what are the rules regarding requesting a thread to be closed?

That's what i was asking, i knew it'd be a small file anyway, just wondering for personal curiosity. I didn't think it was one text file.

Despite what some people seem to have decided, the 'two requests guarantees an unconditional close' thing is a fallacy. If the moderators feel it should be closed, it will be closed. Requests are irrelevant.

So if us players argue about something equally important (or un-important) as this, our topic(s) won't be locked..?

I believe Kai already answered this when he said
So I gather from this it is up to the Mod.

Each situation is evaluated separately, and 'importance' isn't the only factor.

This thread was closed. Some thing were removed, and I re-opened it, in the hope the slight pause would stop the negative comments towards each other.

I once closed a thread because two people asked me to and I agreed. Two requests is enough to get my attention; if it's a good thread I'm not gonna close it, just if it's a flamewar or something that people are crying for me to close.

Incidentally, Angel and I were asked to revive the PW Rules and (when she gets the access) publish 'em officially. I'm trimming it down a bit because this is a lot more of a help guide than a rules set, but still.