That is his entire point. >.>

That's just it though. They're similarities. They aren't the same thing. There is no solid evidence that shows what Konidias has was taken from those games.

But in contrast, Tyrial's roof tiles are so similar to Konidias's that they are almost indistinguishable.

Ugh I'm tired of these depressing hateful argement threads. I'm going to watch a movie about some kids adventures in the east brb.

ty, your logic is the worst I've ever seen, he didn't steal the SoM inventory system, he was inspired by it and thought it would be good for his server, and by your logic, we should sue EVERY SINGLE GAME that was released after the first game that involved random encounters, BECAUSE THEY STOLE THE IDEA, RIGHT!?!?!

Jagen has a point, I mean think of how many Graalian NPCs use circle menus. Hats, for one.

Whoa guys.. calm down.

I think we should lay of Tyrial (sorry I spelled it wrong) and end the hate about picture stealing and everything.

Unless you have factual proof that someone stole graphics, stole ideas or concepts from other games, playerworlds, Don't make threads like this.

I'm sorry Tyrial, maybe you're expecting way too much attention than we are giving you.

I think this thread is thilly.

They took it a little far. :(

Okay I told myself I wouldn't reply because it would be a waste of my time, but I will anyway, since I'm bored.

The inventory menu... okay, it's in a ring, lots of games use the ring deal. I don't see how I'm blatantly stealing such a primitive idea. It's like saying a tire company is copying the idea of the stone wheel that cavemen made.

The grass. I learned to make that grass from a tutorial online, if you want, I will find it, because the grass I made looks more similar to the tutorial grass, than SoM2 or 3 or whatever grass.

The tree trunk is a fluke. Mine also isn't exactly the same. Less roots in the ground, straighter, no leaves growing over the trunk, etc.

The amulet. How many ways can you draw a 32x32 pixel amulet? It's just a gold locket with a chain...

The carpet. I think it's the carpet? Hey buddy, I made pretty much all the carpets on GK, including that one. :p OMG I STOLE MY OWN WORK.

The outdoor light. It's a glass tube, with a candle in it, a base, and a top. There isn't many other ways to make a wall light from the medieval period. I can't have freestanding candles on outside walls now can I?

The crates. You have to be kidding. They look nothing alike.

The bottles. Oh no, I made bottles that look like bottles! Actually if you want to get technical, I made those bottles before GK revamped their bottle graphics. So you'd have to say they stole the graphics from me. :p

The small jar. I've never even seen the jar at the right. How can you possibly make a jar any different with 16 square pixels? It's not even the same shape, remarkably... I wouldn't be surprised if it was though, as it's a tiny jar.

The post. Actually, I only did the outline of this post, which I used the graal post as a base from. Birdbird did the rest, from what I told him I wanted it to look like. :p

You have a really pathetic way of getting revenge. I really shouldn't even be trying to defend myself. But I guess I can't make you look any stupider than you already are.

Grass tutorial!
http://www.indie-rpg.net/pixel-zone/...ni-grass.shtml

Re: You can play Oasis earlier than you tought!
 

The first one: It's a damned square. You're trying to tell us that a SQUARE has been COPYRIGHTED?

The second one: The grass doesn't even look remotely similar.

Third: GOOD GOD IT'S A TREE. SOMEONE INFORM ME WHO HAS COPYRIGHTED A TREE.

Fourth: It's a gold medalion. What's your point? They both have the actual medalion and the chain. That's the only way they're similar.

Fifth: Repeating pattern. They don't even look similar.

Sixth: It's a lantern. I still don't see your point.

Seventh: The crates look nothing alike. The planks go an opposite direction. There's no diagonal plank on the top. Jesus. Are you blind?

Eigth: Those are the four standard shapes for bottles. You can't tell me Linux Cyberjoueurs has a copyright on shapes.

Ninth: Nothing alike.

Tenth: Not even remotely alike.

Dumb little message at the bottom: I can't believe you call this revenge. You made yourself look even more *****ic than you used to.

......Does everyone hate Tyrial?
He just got mad at Koni for saying he copied graphics :\
And i love Oasis and Adiarde both :\ So why can't you all just get along.

I don't work well with *****s. :( Sorry.

I don't hate Tyrial. He is a pretty cool guy, actually, try talking to h im on AIM.

I dont hate him either :O. this thread was dumb though.

i do feel bad that everyone is always mocking him about everything though. :(

he asked for it

For what it's worth, I have (to my recollection) never scandalized anything he has created. This thread was just sheer imbecility of this thread that set me off.

I don't hate him, though I'd assume I had that air about my last post. It is just the utter ignorance and stupidity to even fathom that those graphics were stolen that really irks me. Unless Tyrial was trying to be funny, he certainly didn't come across as that.

I understand why Tyrial is mad,you wouldn't be happy if anyone accuse you,let's leave him alone and forget this.

Doesn't give him the right to be stupid and post an idiotic thread such as this.

You never had the thought that koni might have played those game while he was a child, and as karsh said some where, might have got inspired to draw like it? The fun is, that all these games are 8-bit, which the Zelda game graal was made from also is :rolleyes:

These threads are getting stupid. Frankly, I don't care if Tyrial stole from Konidias, or if Konidias stole from other games. The comparisons weren't really good enough to convince me that he's stealing (although the tree trunk roots look very similar in shape and color). About Tyrial: he could have stolen it from Konidias, or maybe he was inspired by it, or something. The sheer fact is, one of you guys are going to have to change their style. Oasis and Adiarde are too similar, just look at the screen shots. I think you guys should decide what your going to do about this before you keep on making more graphics that similar style.

They look the same, but it's not like he copied, possibly looked at there gfx and got inspiration :) Nice thread tho, he deserves it:p

Because humans can't love every one, and in tiny communities like this, some of the members get hated by all the other members. So, your bron to be hated, sorry :|

Yeah, kinda noiticed.. -_-

There's a tendency among internet users. If somebody disagrees with a person in a conflict, it's automatically attributed to some sycophantical predisposition towards the opponent. It can happen to any of us if we lose our cool, but it's something that should always be avoided.

In this case, Tyrial thinks that people are agreeing with Konidias because they like him or want him to like them, but that piece of reasoning only works if both combatants have equal arguments. In actuality, Konidias' argument is a great deal stronger, on two separate fronts:

1) Konidias' evidence is more compelling. Tyrials comparisons are horribly weak; none of those graphics look similar at all.
2) Konidias has a reputation as a creative person, one who is perfectly capable of making his own graphics and would never resort to theft.

I don't know if Tyrial stole graphics. I don't know if Konidias stole graphics. But for various reasons - including those listed above - I'm more inclined to believe that Tyrial did than Konidias. Does that make me a sycophant? Not at all. I don't doubt that some people are agreeing with him for poor reasons, but that's no reason to accuse all of his supporters.

So, Tyrial's reasoning is flawed. In my opinion it was a bad idea to make this thread, and it's been closed to stop the fighting. That means that the topic ends here. You've all said your pieces, you've all made your points, let's move on. Any harrassment in other threads will be harshly received.

At Tyrial's request, I announce that all those wishing to discuss this matter can contact him by AIM (screenname: 'tyrialadiarde').