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Golbez 07-30-2003 09:40 AM

Thats just messed up. I think they should be taken down for many reasons. I would even ban the owners from Graal so they cant try making anther server like that :/
Val was good back when it started but now it sucks.... Its like Providence they were good at first then they went down hill...

Tseng 07-30-2003 09:58 AM

I question the requirement to have "OOC" in your name, when there are dozens, perhaps hundreds, of nicknames you could use to clearly indicate you are not RPing.

For example, if you refer to "RPing" with your name, you are obviously not "in character," because your character would have no knowledge of what RPing is, or also if you have a name related to any current political events, becuase obviously your character would not know that it is believed that Sadaam's sons have been eliminated.

When asked why OOC is in the name, I've been told "so people know you're not RPing" - why, then, should no other name which clearly indicates you are not RPing, be disallowed? I see no reason that I should not be able to connect to that server with the nickname "*Tseng" or even "Tseng {Leet RPer}" - both of those nicknames rather indicate that I am not at the moment RPing (although the second one would tend to indicate that I am interested in doing so in the near future).

Chris1Polly 07-30-2003 02:10 PM

heh....
 
Valikorlia hah.. I dont know what you were expecting when you logged on but if it was "val" you went to the wrong place. (Val being the old valikorlia where there was at least -some- fun) Im ashamed to say I USED to be staff there, but that was before most of this new crap. When I left things were nowhere near completion and estimated release date was late august or something. Anyways.. back on tack. This new Valikorlia is a product of corruption and theft, Ive noticed alot of it myself - random snes rpg gfx, ripped sounds ect.- While I was there I tried to get rid of most of it. Heh wanna know whats funny? I was run off the server, vicious things were said/done to me just so I would stop trying to end their corruption/theft. Its sad really, but for someone who loved the server to hate it so much, there must have been a really big change.. for the worse. I agree with everyone else who has said so "the server should not be allowed to be up". As for the system.. its scripted really well, I can say Im impressed, but it was done by Entrancer, very little was actually done by the one taking credit for it (Clash). Its overcomplicated for players to use. With the serious stuff aside Im posting my song about valikorlia! :p (to the tune of "12 days of christmas")

TWELVE VISITS TO VALIKORLIA - BY AEGLOS LIRINEN
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On my first visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, an island filled with newbies!

On my second visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, two pimp'n hats and an island filled with newbies!

On my third visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my fourth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my fifth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, FIVE OOOOOLDBIEES four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my sixth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my seventh visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, seven buggy monsters, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my eighth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, eight boats a floatin', seven buggy monsters, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my ninth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, nine corrupt staff members, eight boats a floatin', seven buggy monsters, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my tenth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, ten pimps a boating, nine corrupt staff members, eight boats a floatin', seven buggy monsters, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my eleventh visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, eleven ripped graphics, ten pimps a boating, nine corrupt staff members, eight boats a floatin', seven buggy monsters, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!

On my twelveth visit to valikorlia the staffers gave to me, tweleve globals screaming, eleven ripped graphics, ten pimps a boating, nine corrupt staff members, eight boats a floatin', seven buggy monsters, six laggy systems, FIVE OOOLDBIEES, four *****s, three tile errors, two pimp'n hats, and an island filled with newbies!
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"12 globals screaming" refers back to an old val experience where globals were called almost every day to do something. All other statements refer to the current valikorlia (I mean if you can legally obtain a pimp hat yet be banned for using an aterisk in your name theres something wrong)

ONE LAST THING ^_^ I PROMISe hehe this nice little screenshot of their "RPing" (censored a naughty word being used by the gloriously uncorrupt staff ):rolleyes:

Chris1Polly 07-30-2003 02:24 PM

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Neoreno 07-30-2003 02:31 PM

Those GPs must've been hired by the first come, first serve method.

DarkHero 07-30-2003 04:35 PM

your prolly right neo. I mean i have never seen this kind of management and staff before. The only person i saw that was decent was Malinko ^_^.

davidpsy 07-30-2003 04:50 PM

Re: heh....
 
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Originally posted by Chris1Polly
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***** lololol, btw yes corrupt staff can ruin a wonderful server thats why I make sure all the staff on sans today are not corrupt and people I can trust.

konidias 07-30-2003 06:21 PM

I don't understand... what are you supposed to roleplay as exactly? A medieval pimp that fights goblins and rabbits, and cruises around on his purple pimpin' boat, looking for new islands and new ho's?

davidpsy 07-30-2003 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by konidias
I don't understand... what are you supposed to roleplay as exactly? A medieval pimp that fights goblins and rabbits, and cruises around on his purple pimpin' boat, looking for new islands and new ho's?
If I had the sig space I would so quote that *****.

Tseng 07-30-2003 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by konidias
I don't understand... what are you supposed to roleplay as exactly? A medieval pimp that fights goblins and rabbits, and cruises around on his purple pimpin' boat, looking for new islands and new ho's?
Ah, but what if another pimp arrives? Then the serious roleplaying begins!

Crono 07-30-2003 06:33 PM

1) The whole pimp boat was made by the idiot Clash. (Yes the one who was blacklisted then hired, and takes credit for most of the things on val)

2) I love the Valikorlian song

3) Like I said, before you yell at us for having "illegal" graphics, go yell at servers like babylon who are using harvest moon graphics and (what we're getting yelled at for) providence graphics. (the windows)

Tseng 07-30-2003 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
3) Like I said, before you yell at us for having "illegal" graphics, go yell at servers like babylon who are using harvest moon graphics and (what we're getting yelled at for) providence graphics. (the windows)
How about we "yell at" anyone and everyone who is using graphics they are not allowed to? That sounds fair to me.

Demon 07-30-2003 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
1) The whole pimp boat was made by the idiot Clash. (Yes the one who was blacklisted then hired, and takes credit for most of the things on val)

All I hear is bad things why not fire him?

Neonight 07-30-2003 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
1) The whole pimp boat was made by the idiot Clash. (Yes the one who was blacklisted then hired, and takes credit for most of the things on val)

2) I love the Valikorlian song

3) Like I said, before you yell at us for having "illegal" graphics, go yell at servers like babylon who are using harvest moon graphics and (what we're getting yelled at for) providence graphics. (the windows)

What about the Lute music/graphics? I'm sure if you wanted, Giltwist could very easily re-create the same wavs on his synthesizer. Valikorlia should get yelled at first. It has more *****s on it.

Crono 07-30-2003 06:57 PM

I doubt we stole your "lute" but if we did, give me the gfx name/sounds and I'll get someone to do something about it. As for stolen graphics and such, just list all the stolen stuff and I'll get them deleted.

TribulationStaff 07-30-2003 08:12 PM

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I doubt we stole your "lute" but if we did, give me the gfx name/sounds and I'll get someone to do something about it. As for stolen graphics and such, just list all the stolen stuff and I'll get them deleted.
Look in the Aeglos Inn, as I posted previously

And while I have no screenshots from prov, I can tell you the names of everything, show you my script, even tell you some of the musical combinations I used as magic on prov

I just wish I had thought to sneak in a watermark or something.

fife.gif (which does seem to be missing from your server)
fifehand.gif
P_luteplay1.gif
P_luteplay2.gif

g_lute#.gani
p_luteidle.gani
fife#.gani
fifeidle#.gani

and while I can't tell without hearing, you may even have p_luteplay.gani

Of course, nothing keeps you folks from renaming the files. The only proof I have is everyone who ever enjoyed playing providence. Prov oldbies can probably remember the period before I fixed Tyne's lute and you could warp all over the place by playing on the edge of a level. Think back to my instruments on Providence, then look at what goes on in the Aeglos Inn.

I'd look at the ganis themselves, if the sounds haven't been removed, the lute will use g_lute#.wav. Depending on when the fife wavs were acquired it will either use the 2k1 flute wavs or fife#.wav

TribulationStaff 07-30-2003 08:19 PM

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Upon closer inspection, the lute is definitely prov's. However I do notie a small difference in the hands, leading me to think you did not have all the graphics for the gani or wanted to sideline the chance of being called on it. The motions are the same, the lute graphic, at least, is the same.

Spark910 07-30-2003 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by TribulationStaff
Upon closer inspection, the lute is definitely prov's. However I do notie a small difference in the hands, leading me to think you did not have all the graphics for the gani or wanted to sideline the chance of being called on it. The motions are the same, the lute graphic, at least, is the same.
I'll go do that now.
About the music: It should be gone, if not let me know.

davidpsy 07-31-2003 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Gerami

3) Like I said, before you yell at us for having "illegal" graphics, go yell at servers like babylon who are using harvest moon graphics and (what we're getting yelled at for) providence graphics. (the windows)

2 wrongs dont make a right.

Crono 07-31-2003 12:54 PM

Actually..what would be very good is if a global staff member who sees anything illegal comes on and demands it deleted. Alot of the valikorlian staff dont have gold accounts so they dont read the forums. (And you think they listen to me? x_x)

Once again, sorry for the lute. *coughs* even though AEGLOS was the one who uploaded them ages ago *coughs* o_O

superb 07-31-2003 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
Actually..what would be very good is if a global staff member who sees anything illegal comes on and demands it deleted. Alot of the valikorlian staff dont have gold accounts so they dont read the forums. (And you think they listen to me? x_x)

Once again, sorry for the lute. *coughs* even though AEGLOS was the one who uploaded them ages ago *coughs* o_O

If you guys would keep track of it yourselves a global wouldn't have to waste their time doing that while they could be doing something more important.

Tseng 07-31-2003 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
Actually..what would be very good is if a global staff member who sees anything illegal comes on and demands it deleted. Alot of the valikorlian staff dont have gold accounts so they dont read the forums. (And you think they listen to me? x_x)

Once again, sorry for the lute. *coughs* even though AEGLOS was the one who uploaded them ages ago *coughs* o_O

Yes, that's a great idea! Completely shirk your responsibility as server staff by saying it's a global staff's fault for not finding it!

CasanovaCanavi 07-31-2003 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
Actually..what would be very good is if a global staff member who sees anything illegal comes on and demands it deleted. Alot of the valikorlian staff dont have gold accounts so they dont read the forums. (And you think they listen to me? x_x)

Once again, sorry for the lute. *coughs* even though AEGLOS was the one who uploaded them ages ago *coughs* o_O

That just makes me laugh.. :p

Demon 07-31-2003 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tseng


Yes, that's a great idea! Completely shirk your responsibility as server staff by saying it's a global staff's fault for not finding it!

Actually Tseng, it's not a bad idea..

CasanovaCanavi 07-31-2003 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Demon


Actually Tseng, it's not a bad idea..

rofl.. Ok, tell us why it isn't a bad idea.. I could use another laugh. :p

draygin 07-31-2003 09:29 PM

I dont see how you guys are getting banned for this stuff. I've been trying for at least a year (since virtue was manager) to get banned and with no success.. I've run around with my name Madmartigan or Madmartigan FIGHT TEH SYSTEM! and many other forms. I've gone staff hunting and pked them a bunch before growing bored with that. I've even argued with staff like the Guild Admin. One time Brad and I where RPing orcs and the admin was like you guys have like 10 seconds to take Banthar's Horde out of your name because its not a real guild. Of course I couldnt resist belittling the Guild Admin at the time and I've had LAT's tell me I'm banned when I've messaged them ridiculing how bad the levels where. Or when I've pmed staff demanding that they shut up with the arguing in mass messages because I had my mass messages turned off and didnt want to hear their dribble. But I can still log on. :D Not that I normally do except to see what's been stolen in the past month. (always a fun way to spend an hour) the lag is to annoying its like running through water.

On a seperate note the fife ganis and what not are still in the level as of last night. Please remove them from the actual level.

Crono 08-01-2003 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Tseng


Yes, that's a great idea! Completely shirk your responsibility as server staff by saying it's a global staff's fault for not finding it!

Of course it's our responsibility but the problem is, I dont have rights, the rest of the staff dont read this forum, and if I tell them to do ANYTHING they NEVER listen. The people that have the rights that are on all day are people like Clash. (Yes thats a bad thing because nothing gets deleted o_o;;)


And Draygin, what "fife"?

draygin 08-01-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
And Draygin, what "fife"?
The same fife that has been mentioned several times in this thread. That's in the Bar level and outside it. I think its the dragon something inn. The one with that green bubble guy that looks really good and stolen too. ;x But I'm just saying that because it looks so good.

Crono 08-01-2003 08:02 PM

You mean the little guitar (spelling) like thing? Or the flute looking thing?

draygin 08-01-2003 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Gerami
You mean the little guitar (spelling) like thing? Or the flute looking thing?
lol the guitar looking thing is a lute and the flute looking thing is a fife. Although both are from Providence the one giltwist made is the Fife. The other was Tyne I believe.


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