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mhermher 07-19-2003 01:31 PM

Fence:
I told you Donald, it will change, i saw a fence like that in a stupid ranch, what do you want from me? -_-

Roof:
That are the only way, to make them fit, i don't want to make 25 tiles for 1 roof, so i made it fit, how else could i do it?

Kinatt:
hell no, buddy.. Kinatt is a good friend, he were helping me with the bodies, next day he said, get me a job on GK, so i tryed, and stefan hired him.. what's wrong with that?

Just because you didn't get to keep him, doesn't make me bad for having it.

Mark: On this board, i can tell you: I didn't lie to you, contact me on AIM for full story please.

Donald: I don't know what your problem is, on AIM you're a nice guy, on here to accouse me of theft without proof?

WarLord2004 07-19-2003 03:04 PM

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Hmmm.......

First of i don't want to get on anyone bad side since i hardly know any of you. But from what i seen here is total ****. How can you bash at one guy for making a fence simular to a playerworld project that i have not seen up yet on the server list and yet others are editing graal kingdoms stuff and walking around freely? So since others are allowed to do soo why can't the normal people do it? We need to be friends with a special team before we can edit stuff and no one would bash at us? This is very un-fair soo guess graal is just about power and not helping each other. So it's clear now since other playerworlds can do it so can the rest so don't come to my server and bash me for stuff you see is simular -ktnxbye

mhermher 07-19-2003 03:19 PM

By the way Mark, don't say as it was my fault that i remade GK stuff, you sent me GK templates and said "Here edit this ones and send me it" about making them bad: Never worked with terrain, and about my hamster, why do you think it's a lie, when infact it's 100% true?

MarkB 07-19-2003 09:15 PM

To Warlord:

You dont know how to let **** lay do you? I talked with Tfia, k? Dont even start about Archaic, DD doesnt even have a set theme. So keep your **** to yourself k?

konidias 07-19-2003 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by WarLord2004
Hmmm.......

First of i don't want to get on anyone bad side since i hardly know any of you. But from what i seen here is total ****. How can you bash at one guy for making a fence simular to a playerworld project that i have not seen up yet on the server list and yet others are editing graal kingdoms stuff and walking around freely? So since others are allowed to do soo why can't the normal people do it? We need to be friends with a special team before we can edit stuff and no one would bash at us? This is very un-fair soo guess graal is just about power and not helping each other. So it's clear now since other playerworlds can do it so can the rest so don't come to my server and bash me for stuff you see is simular -ktnxbye

You're not really using logic here. Say you have server B who is copying server A, and server D who is copying server C.

Server A gets angry at server B for copying their stuff, and they argue about it. Server C doesn't care if server D copies the stuff, and everything is fine. It's not a matter of whether or not it's "legal" to copy someone elses work. It's apparent Stefan doesn't mind if someone makes something similar to GK, but I mind that people are doing it to my stuff. There is a difference.


Tyrial
"Kinatt:
hell no, buddy.. Kinatt is a good friend, he were helping me with the bodies, next day he said, get me a job on GK, so i tryed, and stefan hired him.. what's wrong with that?

Just because you didn't get to keep him, doesn't make me bad for having it. "


Uh, right... Kinatt talked with me on aim and said it really sucked that he HAD to make those bodies for you, and that he got stuck because he said he would make them if you got him a job on GK. He even told me "I didn't really think he'd be able to get me a job" or something along those lines. So you basically suckered him into working for you. He left Oasis a while before he even worked with you. He left for Era because Angel said she was going to pay him. Then you threw him that deal, he accepted, and now he is stuck with you.

Another reason he probably left Oasis, like some of the "staff" I have there, is because I didn't allow him to access Oasis, didn't give him RC, nothing. He made graphics and that was it. I guess he didn't like that setup much, so he left to get something other than satisfaction out of working. Basically he left because he got greedy. He wanted money/power. I would never take him back. He acts like a total jerk on the forums, and then he goes and pulls stupid crap like leaving because of greed.

mhermher 07-19-2003 10:26 PM

Konidias, that's a lie, i asked if he would help with my bodies, he said maybe.

Next day, he said get me debug RC, so i did..
And he helped me, i have told him, he don't have to make them if he don't want to, but he said "i'll do it but not right now".


Why should i care if you don't like people who steal your work? I'm not among those people.

Soul-Blade 07-19-2003 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by mhermher

Why should i care if you don't like people who steal your work? I'm not among those people.

Keep telling yourself that :rolleyes:

tlf288 07-19-2003 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade


Keep telling yourself that :rolleyes:

I think he has told himself that so many times that he is begining to believe it, or already is.

I remember when I was younger I kept telling myself and others that my doctor said I was going to hit a big growth spurt and grow like 2 feet within a year, even though it was a lie and I knew it. I actually forgot that it was a lie and started to believe it. I sure was disspointed :( .

Anyways, now it isn't exactly Tyrial's fault anymore. We just kept forcing him to lie so now he actually believes it :grin: .

G_yoshi 07-19-2003 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288


I think he has told himself that so many times that he is begining to believe it, or already is.

I remember when I was younger I kept telling myself and others that my doctor said I was going to hit a big growth spurt and grow like 2 feet within a year, even though it was a lie and I knew it. I actually forgot that it was a lie and started to believe it. I sure was disspointed :( .

Anyways, now it isn't exactly Tyrial's fault anymore. We just kept forcing him to lie so now he actually believes it :grin: .

How is it not his fault? He can decide to be honest or dishonest. No one can actually force him to do it one way or the other.

tlf288 07-19-2003 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


How is it not his fault? He can decide to be honest or dishonest. No one can actually force him to do it one way or the other.

I was being sarcastic... See the ':grin:'?

Soul-Blade 07-19-2003 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


How is it not his fault? He can decide to be honest or dishonest. No one can actually force him to do it one way or the other.

He is saying that Tyrial has told himself he made those graphics so many times, that Tyrial has begun to actually think he really made them without copying, thus, Tyrial cannot be blamed, as with his puny mind he believes he really did make those tiles.

Personally, I would let Tyrial keep them then allow his player world to get crushed by super powers in the player world business =P.

G_yoshi 07-19-2003 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade


He is saying that Tyrial has told himself he made those graphics so many times, that Tyrial has begun to actually think he really made them without copying, thus, Tyrial cannot be blamed, as with his puny mind he believes he really did make those tiles.

Personally, I would let Tyrial keep them then allow his player world to get crushed by super powers in the player world business =P.

Hmm, I guess I wasn't paying attention. But it was still a valid comment :] Anyway, I'm not sure I can agree or disagree. Yes, it would be nice to let him get burned on his own, but then doing so kind of condones the theft of other playerworlds' work.

davidpsy 07-19-2003 11:24 PM

Well Tyrial you say you dident steal it but it looks so similer I just cant accept that its not stolen. You seem like a nice guy too but show us some proof that you made this stuff before Oasis :(.

mhermher 07-20-2003 12:14 AM

No, i'm not gonna proove anything, you guys accouse me, so the proof is up to you..

"He can decide to be honest or dishonest."

How do you know that i'm honest or not?

If you don't like Adiarde, don't play, simple as that.. but noo, you idiots have to come and ruin every thread i make, don't you?

tlf288 07-20-2003 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by mhermher

How do you know that i'm honest or not?

It is kind of obvious...


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If you don't like Adiarde, don't play, simple as that.. but noo, you idiots have to come and ruin every thread i make, don't you?

I wouldn't play even if you didn't steal graphics. I just don't want to see you get credit for something you stole.

mhermher 07-20-2003 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


It is kind of obvious...


And why is it obivious that I stole it and not Konidias from me?
Theres no proof.


I wouldn't play even if you didn't steal graphics. I just don't want to see you get credit for something you stole. [/B][/QUOTE]

I didn't steal it you jackass.

tlf288 07-20-2003 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by mhermher

And why is it obivious that I stole it and not Konidias from me?
Theres no proof.

Other than the fact that they have the same colors and look the same, I guess you right :rolleyes: .

mhermher 07-20-2003 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


Other than the fact that they have the same colors and look the same, I guess you right :rolleyes: .

That's no fact, since they don't have the same color, and they look the same, because that is the ONLY way to do them fit 1 tile.

tlf288 07-20-2003 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by mhermher


That's no fact, since they don't have the same color, and they look the same, because that is the ONLY way to do them fit 1 tile.

I was saying the _whole_ house looks to much alike :\ .

Soul-Blade 07-20-2003 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by mhermher


That's no fact, since they don't have the same color, and they look the same, because that is the ONLY way to do them fit 1 tile.

Only way? You know so little of image editing, which is another reason why I know you did not make those.

Konidias has shown me things over AIM which I can only describe as amazing...yet, the only thing you have shown are the exact things Konidias has shown to the public. The evidence here is obvious - Konidias has made amazing graphics other then his tiles, while you have just made tiles which looks like Konidias', and everything else is bad.

That is the reason he needs other graphics makers. Because konidias has given him nothing else to copy lately!

protagonist 07-20-2003 01:27 AM

Alright guys, you can stop the bashing now. The thread has run it's course. If you don't want to play his server then don't, if he wants to hire his graphics team then let him.

tlf288 07-20-2003 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist
If you don't want to play his server then don't
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Originally posted by tlf288

I wouldn't play even if you didn't steal graphics. I just don't want to see you get credit for something you stole.

Just replace 'you' with 'Tyrial'.

protagonist 07-20-2003 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288




Just replace 'you' with 'Tyrial'.

Whether Tyrial stole or not is not my concern. This repetitive bashing of an individual, which carries over from thread to thread, is what concerns me. It's against the rules and is wrong, as well as annoying.

tlf288 07-20-2003 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist


Whether Tyrial stole or not is not my concern. This repetitive bashing of an individual, which carries over from thread to thread, is what concerns me. It's against the rules and is wrong, as well as annoying.

I'm sure if he admitted to his wrong doing then people would leave him alone :grin: .

protagonist 07-20-2003 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


I'm sure if he admitted to his wrong doing then people would leave him alone :grin: .

Let's assume he did steal it. Why would he admit he did?

tlf288 07-20-2003 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist


Let's assume he did steal it. Why would he admit he did?

It would be a first step into gaining his trust back with the GraalOnline community.

G_yoshi 07-20-2003 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by mhermher
No, i'm not gonna proove anything, you guys accouse me, so the proof is up to you..

"He can decide to be honest or dishonest."

How do you know that i'm honest or not?

If you don't like Adiarde, don't play, simple as that.. but noo, you idiots have to come and ruin every thread i make, don't you?

Obviously if you don't come up with something you're just going to continue getting "attacked". You're making it worse by not providing concrete evidence that what you say is 100% true. Your one little AIM conversation with Helmut does not appear to be very convincing. But the choice is entirely yours. If you really want them to stop either admit as they request or find solid proof. If you want them to keep bothering you do neither.

Dude6252000 07-20-2003 03:04 AM

I'd like to take the time to interupt this flame war to point out something I find funny.

Look at Tyrial's profile. His biography is "A nice guy".
Now look at his arguing posts. He constantly is called people names. How nice.

G_yoshi 07-20-2003 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
I'd like to take the time to interupt this flame war to point out something I find funny.

Look at Tyrial's profile. His biography is "A nice guy".
Now look at his arguing posts. He constantly is called people names. How nice.

The man with the oopmas is right :]

protagonist 07-20-2003 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
I'd like to take the time to interupt this flame war to point out something I find funny.

Look at Tyrial's profile. His biography is "A nice guy".
Now look at his arguing posts. He constantly is called people names. How nice.

Considering he is always under attack by those people, I don't blame him.

MrCharles 07-20-2003 04:38 AM

Umm... I just wanted to say one thing about him stealing that fence.. a lot of fences look like that, my neighbor has one like it, and if i decided to make a fence i might make it look like that. .glgdghgfj he shouldnt really have to change it.

WarLord2004 07-20-2003 07:45 AM

I knew this would get outta hand.:\ First of all anu i have no problem with your server am just trying to show a point. How can you be the only one to copy GK style and if anyone else does get's in trouble? Doesn't it seems unfair that others pays for graal as well not your the only person who spends alot of money behind graal so stefan may like you to use his stuff. I really hope that is not the case. But in other words now since stefan doesn't mind a PW (not gold server) a regualr classic playerworld to copy ideas i belive the rest should be allowed to copy also.


Konidas: Ok i agree you have a point. But what can we do? He payed for the server i don't belive unix has a refund system to give back money.

Anu: Chill out i have no problem with your server just certain people on that server i don't like ans she damm wel know who she is. But i wasn't using yout server to bash at it am trying to show a point. Cause others have came and bash saying we using GK style and yet no oen complains about yours.

superb 07-20-2003 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by WarLord2004
I knew this would get outta hand.:\ First of all anu i have no problem with your server am just trying to show a point. How can you be the only one to copy GK style and if anyone else does get's in trouble? Doesn't it seems unfair that others pays for graal as well not your the only person who spends alot of money behind graal so stefan may like you to use his stuff. I really hope that is not the case. But in other words now since stefan doesn't mind a PW (not gold server) a regualr classic playerworld to copy ideas i belive the rest should be allowed to copy also.


Konidas: Ok i agree you have a point. But what can we do? He payed for the server i don't belive unix has a refund system to give back money.

Anu: Chill out i have no problem with your server just certain people on that server i don't like ans she damm wel know who she is. But i wasn't using yout server to bash at it am trying to show a point. Cause others have came and bash saying we using GK style and yet no oen complains about yours.

think this is the wrong thread buddy...unless I missed something.

mhermher 07-20-2003 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


The man with the oopmas is right :]

Thanks Farin, Proto and warlord guy for your support...


GYoshi.. i don't have to proove anything, you are accousing me, the proof is up to you..

It's the same if you sue someone for stealing your wallet, and say "Proove that you didn't steal it"
The judge will say "You accouse him, you proove it." but in a better term.

protagonist 07-20-2003 03:03 PM

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Thanks Farin, Proto and warlord guy for your support...


GYoshi.. i don't have to proove anything, you are accousing me, the proof is up to you..

It's the same if you sue someone for stealing your wallet, and say "Proove that you didn't steal it"
The judge will say "You accouse him, you proove it." but in a better term.


*tries to summon Kaimetsu*

Hopefully he will use skill 4.

Soul-Blade 07-20-2003 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by mhermher


Thanks Farin, Proto and warlord guy for your support...


GYoshi.. i don't have to proove anything, you are accousing me, the proof is up to you..

It's the same if you sue someone for stealing your wallet, and say "Proove that you didn't steal it"
The judge will say "You accouse him, you proove it." but in a better term.

You idiot, I already provided proof. YOU are not a pixel artist, so YOU cannot make a house like the one you did. Quote by LordHelmut says it best "he usually steals everything, unless it looks retarded".

Go right now and make a original tree from scratch. Unless you do, you WILL CONTINUE TO BE ATTACKED. WE do not have our reputation at stake here, YOU on the other hand do. I don't care if we prove it or not, because we already KNOW you stole them, and will not have any respect for you. If you want us to treat you good, then make something new.

I don't care if YOU DID MAKE THOSE HOUSE TILES, they look just like konidias', make something new. I am a pixeler, and I could make a house like that in about 10 minutes literally. 10 MINUTES! My world is going to have more then 10 hours per tileset! Quit whining and make something new!

protagonist 07-20-2003 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade


You idiot, I already provided proof. YOU are not a pixel artist, so YOU cannot make a house like the one you did. Quote by LordHelmut says it best "he usually steals everything, unless it looks retarded".

Go right now and make a original tree from scratch. Unless you do, you WILL CONTINUE TO BE ATTACKED. WE do not have our reputation at stake here, YOU on the other hand do. I don't care if we prove it or not, because we already KNOW you stole them, and will not have any respect for you. If you want us to treat you good, then make something new.

I don't care if YOU DID MAKE THOSE HOUSE TILES, they look just like konidias', make something new. I am a pixeler, and I could make a house like that in about 10 minutes literally. 10 MINUTES! My world is going to have more then 10 hours per tileset! Quit whining and make something new!

Just shut up. :\

MadWolf 07-20-2003 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist


Just shut up. :\

Tyrial cannot make graphics like that, and houses like that ARE easy to make. Here's what I just did easy.
http://www.deviousgaming.com/ronin/HARVEST/house.PNG
Wow, that was hard. No. I would like to see Tyrial post something that is in "his" style he used to make his house, a tree would do fine.:)

protagonist 07-20-2003 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

Tyrial cannot make graphics like that, and houses like that ARE easy to make. Here's what I just did easy.
http://www.deviousgaming.com/ronin/HARVEST/house.PNG
Wow, that was hard. No. I would like to see Tyrial post something that is in "his" style he used to make his house, a tree would do fine.:)


I don't care if he steals or not. I'm sick of this negative idiot banter that's always focused around Tyrial. People have made their opinions known time and time again, it's time to just stop.

MadWolf 07-20-2003 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist



I don't care if he steals or not. I'm sick of this negative idiot banter that's always focused around Tyrial. People have made their opinions known time and time again, it's time to just stop.

You may note care because you dont understand the time koni could have taken to do this stuff. You may not care because you have not made any decent graphics, to find out people were ripping them. You may not care because it's not your stuff being ripped.
If you dont like it, dont read it. Besides, then the forums would be boring.:\


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