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HoudiniMan 05-01-2003 11:02 PM

Don't be so quick to label Stefan a sell out, he doesn't really handle the money. If it was happening at all it would be Unixmad's doing and i still wouldn't be so fast to condem him either.

Knuckles 05-02-2003 02:13 AM

Did I ever mention anything about how this server's idea's sounds like a COMPLETE rip-off of Era?

Dude6252000 05-02-2003 02:21 AM

Quick check. How old is this guy again?

HoudiniMan 05-02-2003 03:27 AM

Old enough to own a business, i think.

Qwert616 05-02-2003 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Knuckles
Did I ever mention anything about how this server's idea's sounds like a COMPLETE rip-off of Era?
Why? Because it has streets and is not set in a semi-Medieval setting?

Waltz5 05-02-2003 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
Quick check. How old is this guy again?
He's 30. Which makes sense, since most people can't master the fine art of spelling by that age.

Azrael528 05-02-2003 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Knuckles
Did I ever mention anything about how this server's idea's sounds like a COMPLETE rip-off of Era?
yea only era is cool

brock128 05-02-2003 11:20 PM

Well, knowing how much of a tight grip Unix and Stefan have on advertising around here (NO MMORPGS NO ANYTHING,) they had to have SOME insentive for this PW to go up. And I haven't heard anything on it either.

nTENSE 05-03-2003 06:31 PM

This guy just wants to make money, and who doesn't? He spams every Graal server, which is against the rules, and is never banned. He must be something special. :\

Darlene159 05-03-2003 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nTENSE
This guy just wants to make money, and who doesn't? He spams every Graal server, which is against the rules, and is never banned. He must be something special. :\
he was banned on npulse a long time ago because all he does is advertise his toys, and wouldnt stop

shockertoyz 05-04-2003 12:48 AM

As I have said before
Silence Moon Goddess!!!!
Your server is full of lying delinquints!
And I was not advertising my toys you ninny!
I was advertising my Guild it was gonna be the first anime and toy guild.
Anyways oh well Must go work on the ultimite cool server that will destroy all the others MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Fraggo Proof Of Life

Darlene159 05-04-2003 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shockertoyz
As I have said before
Silence Moon Goddess!!!!
Your server is full of lying delinquints!
And I was not advertising my toys you ninny!
I was advertising my Guild it was gonna be the first anime and toy guild.
Anyways oh well Must go work on the ultimite cool server that will destroy all the others MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Fraggo Proof Of Life

uh, no...you were advertising your toys when you first started playing, then when you couldnt get by with that, you tried to make a guild all about your toys, you know that you making a server on graal is only so you can promote your business in any way you can. I have had alot of dealings with you, and I know how you work...Graal is a game directed at kids, what better place to promote your business?
Npulse is not the only server that has said these things about you, I have been told that your so called guild was thrown off more than 1, or not even allowed, and I was also told that you got in trouble more than once for promoting your business.
Are you going to say that this PW you are making has nothing to do with your toys?
I am sure that I can go back and look at history which I save, and find exactly what you were doing and saying while you were on npulse, so dont call me a liar

Waltz5 05-04-2003 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159

uh, no...you were advertising your toys when you first started playing, then when you couldnt get by with that, you tried to make a guild all about your toys, you know that you making a server on graal is only so you can promote your business in any way you can. I have had alot of dealings with you, and I know how you work...Graal is a game directed at kids, what better place to promote your business?
Npulse is not the only server that has said these things about you, I have been told that your so called guild was thrown off more than 1, or not even allowed, and I was also told that you got in trouble more than once for promoting your business.
Are you going to say that this PW you are making has nothing to do with your toys?
I am sure that I can go back and look at history which I save, and find exactly what you were doing and saying while you were on npulse, so dont call me a liar

As much as I hate him advertising, I really don't think it will matter honestly. The toys are absolutely terrible (paintjob, concept, etc.)

I still don't understand why Unix would do this but I have no problem with it if he would just stop advertising his toys.

Cynicism 05-04-2003 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shockertoyz
As I have said before
Silence Moon Goddess!!!!
Your server is full of lying delinquints!
And I was not advertising my toys you ninny!
I was advertising my Guild it was gonna be the first anime and toy guild.
Anyways oh well Must go work on the ultimite cool server that will destroy all the others MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Fraggo Proof Of Life

You're a loon. I would say something like "Go do us all a favor and bob for apples in a vat of acid!" but I won't go that far. But with that aside, I really begin to question the quality, as well as the longevity of your server with the attitude and lack of seriousness that you seem to promote.

Kaimetsu 05-04-2003 02:17 AM

Re: Fraggo still looking for staff and here to stay!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by shockertoyz
And As far as all else Fraggo has a loyal staff of about 45 people and its growing.
45? Are you insane? Don't you realise that you're only as strong as your weakest link? And 'loyal'? I've visited your forums, and seen you hire anybody who asks! With that kind of attitude to management, your server doesn't stand a chance :\

PrinceDark 05-04-2003 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shockertoyz
As I have said before
Silence Moon Goddess!!!!
Your server is full of lying delinquints!
And I was not advertising my toys you ninny!
I was advertising my Guild it was gonna be the first anime and toy guild.
Anyways oh well Must go work on the ultimite cool server that will destroy all the others MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Fraggo Proof Of Life

All lies. You were advertising your website and pming people one by one to go there and join your guild. Eventually people got mad and started arguing with you in mass messages. It kept going until Moonie had to find out what was going on. From that point on i don't know what happened, but I do remember you dissapearing and Moonie saying you won't ever be back.

Cynicism 05-04-2003 03:01 AM

Re: Re: Fraggo still looking for staff and here to stay!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


45? Are you insane? Don't you realise that you're only as strong as your weakest link? And 'loyal'? I've visited your forums, and seen you hire anybody who asks! With that kind of attitude to management, your server doesn't stand a chance :\

It's true his server dosen't stand a chance with the cards he's dealt onto the table, but I think it will be fun to watch him fail so that he can be humbled in the process.

Milkdude99 05-04-2003 04:09 AM

We all have seen it before people boasting they will take over all Graal with their new PW.:rolleyes: And we have also seen what happens when they do go up.:p Seems to me the ones that have the most impact are the "silent ones" who don't boast and are very conservative of what they post on the Forums about their PW, they are the ones who get up and kick butt. Maybe because their Staff are more mature and level headed? :megaeek:


BTW Shocker as a gesture of good faith post a list of Staff on here , many of us are interested in who are your top Staff members are.

Knuckles 05-04-2003 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by Qwert616


Why? Because it has streets and is not set in a semi-Medieval setting?

Yes, and the weapon idea's, and economy. Everything.

brock128 05-04-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Knuckles


Yes, and the weapon idea's, and economy. Everything.

Oh no, they use guns and dollars! IT'S A CONSPIRICY!$@#%#@^

Spark910 05-04-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brock128

Oh no, they use guns and dollars! IT'S A CONSPIRICY!$@#%#@^

Yes exactly. I suppose we could say PWs are copying as they have a dirt path! My only compliant now is that the levels need to be nicer and the tileset improved quite a bit.

brock128 05-04-2003 02:59 PM

Haha. The site has a .zip with the entire playerworld in it.

It has 90 levels.

If it's going private may 1st in that state, then you MUST be paying Stefan and Unix

Dude6252000 05-04-2003 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brock128
Haha. The site has a .zip with the entire playerworld in it.

It has 90 levels.

If it's going private may 1st in that state, then you MUST be paying Stefan and Unix

He posted all of his levels. On his website. Wow, this guy's SMART! :D

Milkdude99 05-04-2003 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brock128
Haha. The site has a .zip with the entire playerworld in it.

It has 90 levels.

If it's going private may 1st in that state, then you MUST be paying Stefan and Unix

Considering the required amount of levels to be accepted is 200 I believe it's a little short. :\ He said it's going private we have no confirmation of that and the date today is May4th and its not up.

brock128 05-04-2003 05:21 PM

Oh yea, I forgot it's may 4th. Okay, well, It's not going up anytime soon.

Deek2 05-04-2003 06:07 PM

Somehow I think that this is all just a big joke :\

ETD 05-04-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
Considering the required amount of levels to be accepted is 200 I believe it's a little short. :\
you should know that that doesn't matter
=0
how many levels did Era, Shifting Ages, or Oasis have, before they were put up privatly?

anyways, i think it could be possible, if he convinced them that the PW will have a lot of improvments, and he's paying them a lot of cash
:P

Darlene159 05-05-2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deek2
Somehow I think that this is all just a big joke :\
I love your sig!
Sorry for going off-topic

Deek2 05-05-2003 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darlene159

I love your sig!
Sorry for going off-topic

Did people just now notice my sig?o_O

ZanderX 05-05-2003 01:49 AM

This guy is a wonderful gimmick. Someone give him a lifetime account.

melissa1988 05-05-2003 06:06 AM

Yeah..put him on display in a cage in Graal Kingdoms

HoudiniMan 05-05-2003 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deek2

Did people just now notice my sig?o_O

I just did today... Nifty.

Still waiting on that staff list...

unixmad 05-05-2003 10:50 AM

I never add any agreement with this guy and will never have since he is pushing me to have some with false rumours.

Thread will be closed tomorrow and this guy banned for advertising on forums for his business.

syltburk 05-05-2003 11:06 AM

and there the story ends

old boys i wanna tell you a story

once uppon a time there was a guy who wanted to start a server based on a toy, in awhile he sees that he totally suck and have to get out fale rumors to atleast "try" to get the server up.

Unimaxed gets on forums and see this, he steals the ban hammer from kon and


BOOM, hes banned the server that was based on a toy ends.

Some people laught, some people advertise.


What you just readed now was a story made by Jaffer & CO

Darlene159 05-05-2003 03:11 PM

Somehow I knew none of that was true.

draygin 05-05-2003 04:10 PM

What I dont get is how you can ban some one for a rule that isnt posted any where. Yes common sense might advise against it but not every one has common sense. It would be nice if it was added to the rule list to specifically say that.

Soul-Blade 05-05-2003 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ETD

you should know that that doesn't matter
=0
how many levels did Era, Shifting Ages, or Oasis have, before they were put up privatly?

anyways, i think it could be possible, if he convinced them that the PW will have a lot of improvments, and he's paying them a lot of cash
:P

225 over here.

unixmad 05-05-2003 05:25 PM

The rules perhaps need to be modified to make it more clear that advertising of products or services is not allowed but the actual rules of Conducts say:

"Discussion through onscreen chat, GraalOnline chat, and discussion forums is a part of the game. GraalOnline must not be used, however, to promote competing products or services. Individuals who actively promote other competing products or services within GraalOnline, may be locked out. "

In the case of Shocker Toys it is direct competitor since Graalonline already sell Branded Products including toys on the shop, so we are in our full right to ban this guy.

Spark910 05-05-2003 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
The rules perhaps need to be modified to make it more clear that advertising of products or services is not allowed but the actual rules of Conducts say:

"Discussion through onscreen chat, GraalOnline chat, and discussion forums is a part of the game. GraalOnline must not be used, however, to promote competing products or services. Individuals who actively promote other competing products or services within GraalOnline, may be locked out. "

In the case of Shocker Toys it is direct competitor since Graalonline already sell Branded Products including toys on the shop, so we are in our full right to ban this guy.

Yay! I knew I was right. Told you dragin that it was written somewhere public. Maybe I specifically said I was the rules, but I knew it was somewhere. Oh well im happy.

*claps unix*

melissa1988 05-05-2003 05:33 PM

Where do you get the toys? I haven't checked the online shop in a while, but I never saw toys there before...just mugs, mouse pads, and shirts mainly. Again, I haven't been there in a few months... :)

Spark, it's all open to interpretation man. Like I said, I don't think many people were aware of Graalonline selling toys. Draygin was perfectly within his right because this knowledge was not known to him Before Unix said anything. So basically, if Graal didn't sell toys, then the rule would not apply because Fraggo Online would not be a competitor. Why anyone would buy a "shoulder action figure" is beyond me anyway. lol...The whole concept is just idiotic.


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