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AlexH 02-10-2003 01:19 AM

I don't think all the hats should be free.
Some should be free like the way some are now.
Some you should have to buy but there is an unlimited stock of those.
Some you have to buy and there is a limited stock (there you have your trading for markets).
And finally some you must win in events. (there you have even more for markets :))

Rax 02-10-2003 01:20 AM

and bomy pets

AlexH 02-10-2003 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Rax
and bomy pets
Old bomy pets.
Those were the best ones.
The ones we could make play ganis and wander the server.
Also they could shout abuse at players when they got too close.
Fun fun fun.

JrTerrorist 02-10-2003 01:32 AM

How will they chose the Kingdom Kings/Emperors?

I wanna be Zormy emp <:X

Googi 02-10-2003 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by JrTerrorist
How will they chose the Kingdom Kings/Emperors?
They'll probably choose some of the former kingdom owners.

Birdbird_0 02-10-2003 01:40 AM

Well I havent thought out hats compleatly yet, has its ups and downs.

Reverting it back to the erliest date, then adding on from there. Pree bomy moon

Yes bomys will exsist, no lame bomy graphics ither, along with some new orignal bomy graphics.

edit:
as for kingdom leaders, I got Ghost for The Pirate Faction, and Kamuii (Duh) for Dustari ;D

Others are still decided, though I have one in mind for Zormite.

As well as having Vermain help, Posible RP/Kingdom admin, to monitor and manage the kingdoms more effectively, Rather then having me do it :>

Googi 02-10-2003 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Yes bomys will exsist, no lame bomy graphics ither, along with some new orignal bomy graphics.
Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
As well as having Vermain help, Posible RP/Kingdom admin, to monitor and manage the kingdoms more effectively, Rather then having me do it :>
Umm...Vermain quit, a long time ago :(

Birdbird_0 02-10-2003 02:06 AM

Doesnt mean he doesn't want to help with my "leet" persuasioun (SP!?@) skills

Brad 02-10-2003 03:27 AM

zoom

lyndzey for samurai
chris for zormite
kamuii for dustari
ghost for pirates
and dont add karakaze unless tht or sisok comes back

this is the first thing in a while which interests me. lemme make levels

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-10-2003 05:35 AM

2k1 was most successful when it people were role-playing there. There was a time when Graal 2001 got at least 100 people daily, and about 60% of those were role-players. When we had about 80 daily, then almost all of them were role-players

Graal 2001 cannot and will not survive without some form of element of role-playing. It never did. I don't want to sound egotistical, but when Dustari died, other kingdoms started to taper, then all of a sudden so did numbers. When all the kingdoms died, there was no one left to play graal 2001.

Personally, assigning elements to kingdoms is stupid, but hey, that's just me. No problem with having one specific element affiliated with a kingdom, but none of this "omg dustari is pure fire and zormite is pure water etc etc"

And I don't see why you are all getting excited. Birdbird, you can't even start this Graal 2001 3D project until Unixmad is done with the Graal 3D, after that it may take a very long time to make a whole new server with it, unless you're making a new Graal 2001 which may be out within a week or two, then I must be mistaken.

Birdbird_0 02-10-2003 05:39 AM

I'd say a little over a month to finish.

Elemental wise, its just to identify the kingdoms locations and place in explinations.

Nothing to do with magic or anything, its like a theam or so.

Brad 02-10-2003 05:41 AM

2k1 better be all around rping ;x

funnylinkwantsbomys 02-10-2003 12:50 PM

ah im good at editing player worlds and finding those nasty "small bugs" or small tile errors

MilkyWay0016 02-10-2003 03:33 PM

God bless you, Sir

Googi 02-10-2003 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
and about 60% of those were role-players.
Correction - 60% of them were in kingdoms.

Jourdan 02-10-2003 07:47 PM

I'm back to 2k1. 2k2 is crap.

Now that I've got that out of my system...

I'd rather have the new bodies over the old ones. The old bodies lag like crazy when you try to PK with them. New bodies are just much faster and more accurate when fighting...

And yes, RPing on 2k1 WAS more fun than on 2k2, just because everything was even.

But I'm back to 2k1... ^.^ Didn't ya miss me?

Neoreno 02-10-2003 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Jourdan
I'd rather have the new bodies over the old ones. The old bodies lag like crazy when you try to PK with them. New bodies are just much faster and more accurate when fighting...

Isn't that the other way round?

Jourdan 02-10-2003 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Neoreno


Isn't that the other way round?

No, new bodies actually hit when they're suppose to, old bodies aren't accurate enough.

MrCharles 02-10-2003 10:24 PM

Its easier to fight with the new bodies, I like them, but you cant customize them.

Id rather stick with the current ones.

Thak2 02-10-2003 10:27 PM

Ok, I went on 2001, and I don't have a sword anymore, just some punching thing.

Where is a sword, anyways? ;[

Also, I don't like how Bomboria is now ugly winter levels.

Brad 02-11-2003 12:27 AM

old bodies >

Qwert616 02-11-2003 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Thak2
Ok, I went on 2001, and I don't have a sword anymore, just some punching thing.

Where is a sword, anyways? ;[

You need 25 monster kills and 20 Crafted Gold to get the sword. You can find it on the opposing shore of the lower left of the Zormite Island(not really sure what the name is) by the only waterfall falling off Mt.Antora.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-11-2003 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Googi


Correction - 60% of them were in kingdoms.

Okay, meaning that there had to be more role-players because of fringe parties such as Karakaze and other RP guilds, so therefore kingdoms on 2k1 is that much more important.

Thak2 02-11-2003 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Qwert616


You need 25 monster kills and 20 Crafted Gold to get the sword. You can find it on the opposing shore of the lower left of the Zormite Island(not really sure what the name is) by the only waterfall falling off Mt.Antora.

Thanks, I'll try to do that stuff sometime.

I'll need to buy some mining equipment though, when I played 2001, I'd just farm for money. I stayed away from the mines for some reason.

Zurkiba 02-11-2003 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Thak2


Thanks, I'll try to do that stuff sometime.

I'll need to buy some mining equipment though, when I played 2001, I'd just farm for money. I stayed away from the mines for some reason.

The monsters drop gold, pearls, and gralats

Tseng 02-11-2003 05:29 PM

I've been trying to get our ORIGINAL dev server back for quite some time.

Loriel had it taken over, and is letting some other people make a playerworld there. Stefan was going to talk to Loriel, but I'm still waiting for this o.O. Loriel agreed to give us a subdirectory on 2k1 dev, but that's not enough for me. I want 2k1 dev back.

I've been trying to get our regular kingdoms back as well as make many improvements on our overworld.

Jeff's blocked me from readding regular kingdoms, instead he's wanting his "Server guilds" idea to pass. I disagree; I think we should have regular kingdoms as well. Jeff, however, thinks that it would be "unfair" to people who pass through his server guild system :-\

Birdbird, Jeff, Loriel, Stefan - You ALL need to contact me about various things.

It's time something is done.

I'm TIRED of nothing happening.

I'm TIRED of the lazy staff never showing up and not doing their work.

I had to fire FIVE people within the past 3 weeks, just for never coming on, or for telling me they have "more important" things to do, and then getting jobs on other servers.

In short, this is disgusting, and something needs to be done.

I like your pro-activeness, Birdbird, and I'd like to talk to you about the specifics of this project.

I'm tired of waiting for Stefan to get Loriel to give us back OUR server. It's "Bomy Development". Not "Loriel+playerworld" development. I understand that Loriel likes having his own dev server (It's a nice thing to have), but it's more important that 2k1 has it.

And Jeff, we just need to talk about where 2k1 is going. I have a LOT to say, and we haven't exactly agreed on some important issues.

And the wheels of fate begin turning...

Jeff 02-11-2003 05:38 PM

I say it'd be prudent to use local guilds with rentable houses instead of kingdoms. I'm wanting to implement those anyway, so why should we give some unbalanced form of affirmitive action to roleplaying guilds?

draygin 02-11-2003 06:09 PM

I'm just waiting for my next project. I was going to work on that quest thing Tseng had mentioned to me but Androk said he finished it and I didnt see anything that looked grossly incomplete. If you ever need work done my forum pm is always working. Although if possibly I would prefer to do whole projects and not pick up projects that other people have started but not finished.

draygin 02-11-2003 06:35 PM

Ok I just read this entire thread and I like the idea. Old heart system and bodies.

I recommend trying to balance the economy so there isnt an over abundance of money. Example money keeps getting made and going into circulation. Money on top of money. But there is nothing on the server that is eating the money at the same time. So people are making more and more money and none of it is going off the server.

I wish Trueheat and Sisok would come back for Karakaze. :( But I dont see it happening.

Jeff 02-11-2003 07:35 PM

I just officially loaned the dev server to loriel and birdo to see what they can do with it :) With my help, if they want it, haha

draygin 02-11-2003 08:11 PM

Also how old of graal2001 are you going with this? Like old tile set or sticking with the current tile set.

Jourdan 02-11-2003 08:41 PM

New bodies > Old bodies
Kingdoms > Local Guilds

How about you guys just make a friggin new overworld and stick it under the classic tab? That would do wonders.

MrCharles 02-11-2003 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tseng
I had to fire FIVE people within the past 3 weeks, just for never coming on, or for telling me they have "more important" things to do, and then getting jobs on other servers.



whod you fire :eek:

Birdbird_0 02-11-2003 10:31 PM

Excuse me Jeff and Tesing?

I was under the impression you both were under the control of the dev server.

When I proposed the reconstruction to Jeff two weeks ago, he said he would talk to Tesing about it, later he told me that Tesing did not want to give up his development positon on the dev server, and rather offered me a lat Positon. Insulted I was.

So I took the more direct method of contruction, asking stefan for the private server "Graal2001" instead of bardging in on what you've done.

You've guys had more then enough time to show something at least, and its to your own consiquence that you've gotten no where, wether its one person or the whole lot.

I don't know any of your talents, but from what I've seen on 2k1, I don't want any of the current staff there to help me withought privatly prooving to me that their work is to the quality I desire.

I'm tired of petty staff squabilings and she said he said he said that she said that its his fualt and not mine. I'm not working with people who don't know how to organize.

Once Stefan puts up the Graal2001 private server, I will be the Development cowardanator and manager.

And Jeff, Why the sudden change of heart? I don't want your help, no offence. You haven't shown me you're capable enough to manage a server. I'm ither in it to totaly control the project's development, then later organize the staff with the best posible people. I don't care about current positions or likes amung the current staff, I want this project to succed and not fall over again because of Staff arguments and strives for power.

Graal Bomy Moon
and
Graal2001 are differnt in my opinyon.
Seperate servers and seprate staff.

This all seems like a power struggle from the current staff to me.


edit:
I have RC acess to the bomy dev server, not too sure how Long I've had it, maybe its new? I have no rights on the rc as it is.

Sorry to sound demanding or very mean.
But the only way I'm going to start the 2k1 reconstruction the right way, is by having a totaly new server with full Control. I'm not a power hungry Avain here now, I just know what the heck I'm doing. Within a month (or like a month and two weeks) I would have the server up, along with the correct staff positions and management in place.

So far, I haven't seen squat done with the current bomy moon, thats why I am so "not liking" their sense of work and acclaimed talents.

No offence to them, I dont hate them, I just don't think they have what it takes. Then again, it takes alot to prove me wrong.

Brad 02-11-2003 10:36 PM

go pige0n man

Neoreno 02-11-2003 10:38 PM

Is this going to be like

Graal Bomy Moon - Graal Adventure
Graal 2001 - Graal 2000?

Birdbird_0 02-11-2003 10:44 PM

More of
Graal Bomy Moon
Current server, not distrubing what they've done or taking over that server, just leaving it alone.

then
Graal2001
My project, seperate servers.

Googi 02-11-2003 11:49 PM

So, basicly, if we just re-uploaded the castles/ships/stuff like that to 2K1, added in some tag-adders and rounded up some kingdom leaders, atleast part of 2K2's playerbase would return to 2K1?

draygin 02-12-2003 12:00 AM

I'm glad I meet Birdbird's quality and approval. :D

The question I wonder most is which way would Googi go.

2k1, or bomy moon. ;) Interesting predicament.


Also I think it should definaly be way back before there was the mazes and what not. :) I also like the idea of the older bomy pets. Also I would prefer to have it either bomy or human not be able to switch back and forth. I never did like that. ;x

My favorite past time was always fishing. :D Although it certainly wasnt balanced with the other jobs profit wise. :( But it was number one in my book. Just need more fishing places. :D Ok I'm rambling now so I'll just shut up.

I think my main point is how far back in time are you going? I like the old tile set or at least older stuff. Right around when zormite was still on antora.

Birdbird_0 02-12-2003 12:23 AM

Well Loriel does control dev now, we both have leet level 4.

Update in a day or two.

Till then, the project is in motion!

edit:
after we set the server perameters folders and options, I'll be contacting the people I've talked to about becomming staff, and other evil thigns .ect


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