Point is it is illegal to do on these Forums no matter why it is done. It didn't need saying , Tifa is a big Girl and can take care of herself. Arguing with Ex-Staff that was fired won't do a bit of good and they will always slam the Manager amd PW they were fired from. It is very obvious that is what it is and most intelligent people will just ignore the comments of those that make them, and take it for what they are, fustration and anger, plain and simple.

omfg, G_yoshi, that map is a-w-e-s-o-m-e

Clearly Rob Getashu is the the best Manager, AND you must be blind to know about Hamtaro and think that is hamtaro. That looks nothing like it OR a cartoon. (just messing btw ;p)

Holy Holy...
I made one post and it set Tifa off again...

Anywho, not to stoop to flaming like this and making false accusations (gralat changers...? etc) I'd like to point out that i didn't know squat about the npc server then and i'll freely admit it. you'll also see where i mention "countless pleas to teach me" or something along those lines... it's not like i wasn't trying. When i was talking about the "damn npc server" i was not referring to my incomprehension of it, but to Tifa's hypocracy...
She had told me and Rogue Shadow (the only NATs when they got the npcserver) that "if you can make it then you can use it"

I made a guild name changer to organize spar tourneys and she sent me a smoking private message in all caps saying she was going to fire me... *shrugs*

Frankly, i'm very happy where i am at now and i never intended this arguement to take place. (i haven't checked up on the thread in a while due to vacation)

My earlier point was simply: this guest RC thing is BS
and you didn't have just kishara either you lying little girl >=\
I can remember at least 5 flooding the rc chat.

Oh yeah, i did finally learn npcserver scripting so you can all stop thinking i'm stupid now :)

Note to Mods:
 

I'd appriciate it if any further replies to this that are off the topic are deleted, i'd ask that the thread be closed but it (sorta) had a point besides this pointless show of Tifas vengeful side

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I'd actually like to request that all posts relating to this off topic issue are deleted, thank you
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Um, Houdini, I believe your posts arent even allowed, this should be taken care of elsewhere not here, so you arent one to ask for posts to be deleted...this wasnt started to flame managers, it was just started to see who people liked, not who they disliked, hence the name of the thread, and it certainly wasnt started so people could complain about being fired and so on........

I think you should realize this isn't having to do with my being fired, it's in the past.

This was never intended to be a flame praytell. She is the worst manager, but there aren't any bad managers... It's like claiming out of 2000 people, that being called #10 in the top 10 is a flame... she escalated it and i think i should have chosen my words better... However, this was not intended to be a flame and you all argued without any input from me.

Please, consider that there isn't always a bad guy moon goddess.

err, it was you that started the post saying tifa was the worst manager, was it not? Believe so...none of it was called for, nor is it what this thread was about

Well i see you kept your word and deleted your thread HoudiniMan, as i said you give me no choice but to defend
myself.
This thread was about who people thought was the best Player world Manager, and you flamed me for being the worst, and expected me to say nothing in my defence?
Sorry i didnt come to the same agreement.
You brought up you were fired, so i told why you were fired.
I even showed proof of our NAT Chief saying he didnt trust you.
Dont start what you cant finish i say.

As for my part i think the best Manager is by far nobody.
Every Manager tries their best, continous to work to better themselves, their staff and their server.

Oh of course im sure you will say i dont, call me a liar like you did, but then again, i will defend myself and we can go on and on, back and forth as long as you like.

I have all the time in the world.
Or would you like to call it quits.
In which case stop slamming me.

Is it really worth it to dwell over this topic? Apparently, if the manager is still reigning over his/her playerworld, then they're doing good enough.

I couldnt agree more, but you see there will be another thread, another flame or slam aimed at me, like the one he just posted.

He likes using terms like that, he used it once before, like the second time i fired him:

*HoudiniMan: you all want to get in her pants is more like it ¬_¬
*HoudiniMan: you're attracted to a friggin cartoon
Omega Cryptorchid_Dev: What the hell is the idea that everyone has where if you are friends with a girl you are trying to have ***** with her
Unholy Paladin: O.o ur really fawked in the head houdini
Omega Cryptorchid_Dev: well, no ones is standing between you and the
Omega Cryptorchid_Dev: *door
Unholy Paladin: anyway, flirting is different then 'getting into someones pants'
*HoudiniMan: you keep kissing her ass and your face will stick that way
TifaKhan loaded the local ban info of HoudiniMan
TifaKhan has set local ban info of player HoudiniMan
TifaKhan disconnects HoudiniMan

Every manager has his or her own flaws. I haven't played at a great many servers, but of the 3-4 I have played, I would say that the top 2 managers I've seen are Tifa of Doomsday and Tornado of Gaia. They both care about their server as well as about their staff, and it's that caring that sets their servers apart from the rest. They also do their best to follow the global rules. I can say I've had fun playing at both servers. However, in this respect, I think Tifa would win, because her server is public and Gaia is in development privately right now.

As for working at playerworlds, I'd say Tornado was the superior of the two. Some of the rules at Doomsday are simply too restricting, such as the one that says people can't work in more than one field at once (e.g. be a GP and do NPC work). It's in the interests of "fairness", but it restricts the server from utilizing all of its potential talent. At Gaia, people are given jobs/rights based on their abilities, and if someone wants to work in more than one field, then all the more power to them.

So, you post these logs without including all the parts prior where you're insulting me... "and you expect me not to defend myself?"...

Well i'm not. k?

I don't really care about this at all and while it does piss me off that you're posting partial conversations and basically ruining my reputation to everybody who reads this, there's nothing i can do if you want to hurt me like that.

Frankly, i'm done. I was done when i asked for this to be deleted. I never even inteded for it to start in the first place.

Leave me alone :(

exactly.

i said: she's the worst manager

i mean by that: out of the top 10 graal players she is number 10 cause she did something stupid

Oh ok, if you like i'll post the whole thing starting from where you called me a *****.

I was simply showing how you like to use those terms to flame me like you did on the Doomsday section of the forums, right after you said you would delete your post about me being the worse Manager on a thread that was for people to say who in their opinion was the best Manager.

You started it, not me, i simply defended myself.
Simply reply yes if you would like me to post the whole thing.
Im happy to comply.
Or how about sorry for turning a nice thread into a slam against me?

I dunno where the mods are, but someone needs to close this :(
Not delete it, just close it

Tifa- I lost my trust on her.
Tornado- I think hes doing good, havnt seen any problem.
Valkoria-X_x whos manager lol
Atlantis- zwr, im not german so i dont now.
Galethia- Sebman, no hes manager on Galethia and Developer on Maloria, common´, deside wich server u want to work on.
Renegade- SSrogebeta, works on to many server. IF you are a manager you only work on that server.
UN-long time ago i played, but isnt Manta the manager? oh well, hes doing a great job in development and hes a good leader.
Classic- Hardest server to get a staff job on, they only get real good staff, wich results a good server.
Providence-Dead
Era-Angel is always active.
Npulse: im banned there so.... i never realy met her.
graal2001: will not comment mr.kamuii
graal2002:Stefan=scripter
Doragon Koden: G_Yoshi, is in my eyes the best manager right now
Cynical:B00j B00j are leet

Sadly, such things can’t be avoided; but you or any other playerworld manager can dodge the slings and arrows of this community if he/she knows that they are honestly doing an ample enough job, which it is obvious that you are.

Im sorry, your 100% right, i let my desire to prove my innocence get the better of me.Thank you for your kind words.

Moon Goddess i apologize.

I just hope HoudiniMan can let it lie too, because im willing if he is.

I'm not going to close this just yet. Arguments and some valid points have risen, yes, but they seem to be cooling down now, and hopefully the problem can be resolved publicly.

No need to apologize to me Tifa, I just felt like this thread was going to get really ugly, and needed to be closed, but it appears maybe it might calm down now.
I agree with Cynicism

omi, please all calm down, whew, heh....
well anyway, i still go with Moon God and Goddess as best manager(s)

but G_yoshi runs a close second

I thought i was pretty clear on the wanting to calm down part...:\

Yes you did then you reposted:
Apparently the stupid thing i can gather is my having guest RC's.
Can we clear this issue up to while we are at it ?

When i became Manager i used to ask Moon Goddess for advice and i even added her as a guest RC to help me out.
I also added Kisharha Manager of Babylon and Nemesis when he didnt have his global RC.

At present i still have Kisharha and one other Valcrist who is helping out with the kingdoms, i simply put some things in our totransfer folder, he removes them and leaves.Kish comes on maybe once a week to say hello, see how im going, then leaves.

When HoudiniMan questioned my having guest RC's i approached Nemesis about it BECAUSE he told me to go to him for advice. He knew i was a new Manager.

Nemesis said it was not illegal as long as i gave them no rights.
And yes admittedly i have added some along my time as Manager, other Managers in particular like Sky.

I dont use RC for an AOL chat room, i actually work very hard.
And for someone to accuse me of doing that, especially you HoudiniMan is hypocrisy because you used RC to slam me when talking to Tangy, behind my back i might add.

So lets settle this issue of this *stupid thing* i did once and for all, then im done.

And for my part i vote you worse staff member, fair enough?

You're continuing this argument by saying that.
However i don't mind as long as you mean worst of the top ten.

Even if you don't, *I* won't act like you just shot my cat and take it to heart.

You're done now. I've been done for several days.

No you didnt answer your original flame about my *stupid thing*

Why not?

at least no one said anything BAD about me...

Why not have guest RCs who are just your friends chatting to you? RC is not a chat room.

My arguement is seemingly weakened by the fact that if i listed any of your "friends" you could say they are staff, because you of course hired them all. So don't ask.



P.S. Warcaptin sux! <3 lol j/k

You used RC for a chat room when you flamed me behind my back with Tangy didnt you, so dont be such a hypocrite.

OMG GAWD LMAO ROFL, DIDNT YOU READED WHAT HE SAID``????



ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE DUMB ARGUGING WHEN YOU DONT NOW WHAT YOUR SAYING STOP K? KTHANXBAI!:grrr:

You just proved your own point. :\

I must say I totally agree with you on that point...:\ :p

shh.




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