I'll be able to help a lot more once I get my DSL so I won't have to keep connecting to AOL 100 times to get my IP range right. I can't help out with any P2P problems like people expect me to do. I can't just give you an account when you say "i lost my password and I forgot the email I used to sign up for it, give it back to me now or I am reporting you to unixmad!"

Good idea. Very good idea. Only downside is there will be more players posting more problems.

how's that a downside? That just means people will get more help...The only downside is that there will be more idiots spamming for count like kamoo..

Because I'm one of the few people with experience in this area...
Talent only makes up the development side. It's what hooks the players that matters. Not the staff.

Your staff review -
Loriel - has deemed himself very lazy. Great choice.
Birdbird - loses motivation very easily. (as seen a kajillion times in the past.)
Falados - woop-de-doo. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the only one to stay.

Uh, not constructive? So, basically, you're saying that my views of the administration declining waaaaaaaay too much aren't sufficient enough? It's a reason, and a very valid one at that.
The administration handles both the gold servers and the way the game is ran. The gold servers aren't worth reupgrading for, and the administration treats other members poorly, or doesn't know what the hell is going on.

Quote:

By the way, Stefan doesn't manage Graal really, he is an administrator but I do believe that Unixmad covers the business side, while Stefan does the development and programming.

And... Stefan is like Unixmad's right hand man. Unixmad's right hand man told me that graal wasn't being ran as a business, and that there were no plans for it.

I agree with Torankusu. I don't think playerworlds are good anymore. Granted, none of them were ever GREAT, but they were fun to play on. I don't care if you have Stefan and Unixmad working on Oasis, it does not mean it will be the greatest server ever.

Graal Administration has come down. Before you tell me what you told Torankusu, allow me to explain. What has happened to Lyndzey? Let's review the facts. Her RC has been removed and allowed several times. She needs her RC, and to keep it. Taking it away and giving it back every month or so really isn't all too promising for Graal's staff in general. That's not a huge point, however. Tyhm is getting none of the respect he deserves. He's been with us for God knows how long and has managed Classic for a long time. Why is he just still Classic owner? Don't give me the crap that it's because he's leaving in December. If he were to change his mind, I'd bet every damned person playing Graal $5 US that he wouldn't get a higher position. Why? He doesn't suck up to unixmad and Stefan all the time. As we can see, he doesn't like ass-kissing.

Konidias, can you tell me when Stefan told unixmad:

"Hey Stèphane. You can fire all of the staff and hire new ones. You can do anything you want to Graal now. Have fun!"

Can you tell me when he said that?

Another note:

Pay-to-Play. Granted, Stefan and unixmad need money, but you cannot seriously tell me that they both did not have any free time before Graal went P2P. Since Graal went p2p, the number of players has went down, the number of arguments has greatly heightened, and the overall of Graal's fun factor has went to a low. No longer is it about playing servers and PKing on Classic. Now it's about re-upgrading. How can you have fun when you know your account is going to run out sometime in the near future? It's like being told you have a year or so to live. Will you have a lot of fun? Probably not. Buying upgrades is buying Graalian life. You don't get to have any fun.

Not to mention, players under the age of 18 are more likely to be non-existant on Graal if we have to re-upgrade every 3 months or every 6 months, etc. "I'm not going to upgrade that account again. You've been spending too much time on Graal." Before you give me any excuses, think about it, Konidias. I'm one step ahead of you.

Well said.

Many of us are several steps ahead of him. However, that is not what worries him. Our presence, and the fact that we don't agree with every lasty detail of his choices, defeats him.

Have a nice day.

No.
because I live in Brazil,so:

1 Dolar=3 Reais (Brazil)

a p2p for 12 months is $39,00
then..I will pay R$117,00 here..:(

No.

Paying to have this account reupgraded in August was a huge mistake that I won't ever make again. Graal has an all time low of players and all of the servers are extremely boring. I see no point why I should keep feeding Unixmad money for this crap he calls an online RPG.

As for these supposed godlike upcoming playerworlds, they will probably be crap. Like every other new playerworld that looks awesome before released, it turns to crap.

That does not mean it is more expensive for you than it is for other people.

I very much agree on the forum access discussion...In my opinion, anyone who has upgraded, whether it be for gold or not, should have access to these forums, Trial people should have access to at least a very small section somewhere, maybe one made especially for them, so that they can know all these rules (like the account sharing rule).
The most important reason has been said already, so that people have a way to get in touch with administration when they need to

hahhahaha fool

39 dollars is 390 swedish money but its still the same
:p haha

39 dolars here,is same to R$117,00 Reais (Brazilian coin)! :\
And i will not pay that price..

It's the exact same price.
Now is anyone from Turkey?
They must be paying thousands for Graal.

Graal - 5000 Yen

Neonight your argument if very very good, graal since it went p2p should have increased in quality... when you pay for something you dont expect things to get worse...

one thing that may be causing problems...

graal is made by the players... the playerbase is at a lower age... 10-14 year olds are who make up the "older players" of course there are alot more people of many different ages... but the majority of the players are around that age...

The reason no one is really wanting to take time and make somethin really fun is, they arent getting paid! when it was free everyone would contribute, now that it is not free... people are more reluctant to help the "administration" get more money.

Paying/Hiring people that are good at what they do, not based on popularity or on what the players think, would be a good step into the direction of making graal "fun" again. People that arent paid usually dont care if things are done or not, they arent getting paid.. if the service isnt free then why make stuff for it.

Graal needs to pay attention to the users instead of just thinking what is more convenient, graal is a paid service... IT NEEDS BETTER QUALITY!

I'll reupgrade, in 33 days, because I like 2k2, and I want to be here to see how it turns out...
/edit Also, after nearly a year and a half, I'm finally getting noticed... (oddly, the same time I signed up for a forum account...)

That simply means your economy is more inflated, should be in proportion; minimum earnings at a job should be proportionally higher when compared with the US earnings.

Who ever said they cant get help... They can just use the help center thingy!?

I voted yes but it depends really.
With 141 days left
and being Manager of Doomsday, i will stay as long as i am wanted there.
Should i lose my position or feel the need to retire, before my days ran out, i dont think id bother re upgrading.
Bye Bye bomy, bye bye 5k
oh well, easy come easy go.

Thats same but i will not pay R$117,00..=/
my dad doesnt get it working..=/

Kinda stinks tho, expensive. You only get to play 2 servers...and one of them is 2k1..what ever happened to 2k1? It used to have like 60 people around the clock and most of the time more than that. People running around the market. All that was fun, has everyone given up on it and is focusing on other things? Well thats cool but you have a perfectly good server dying. So i voted Maybe. That and I like the forums!:D

i mean

i have alot of days left


about a year

The only thing that wouldnt make me pay again

Would be if Oasis wasnt up and New Graal2001 wouldnt be done.


Graal2230 i realy have no idea about howz it going, sense i never seen anything of it.