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HoudiniMan 10-14-2002 10:11 AM

Well, now i feel just a little bit stupid :D

I still think it's a valid point. NEVER DO THAT K?!

Soto 10-14-2002 12:58 PM

when will all this be done?

Kuza 10-14-2002 01:22 PM

this is truly excellent work. kudos to you, Graal2001 Team.

Jeff 10-14-2002 09:29 PM

Events for subscription extension = drawing the 2k2 crowd to newmain in hopes of some slim chance of getting the extension = GOOD!

Googi 10-14-2002 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
Events for subscription extension = drawing the 2k2 crowd to newmain in hopes of some slim chance of getting the extension = GOOD!
Not really, since similar events will probably be added to 2K2 aswell.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 10-14-2002 11:43 PM

Its kind of odd if you ask me.

Konidias wants to turn Graal 2001 into an adventure server. I'm alright with that, except it's not really an adventure server when you go "omg come play counter strike for 30 gralat, and a free hat!" That would be the same old 2k1 we've seen for a while. I'm leaning towards the possibility that there will probably be a reset and a total overworld revamp.

When I think of anadventure server, I think of some form of role-playing (like you can't go around and be some ghetto thug or something silly like that), you'd have to be a Knight or something, and the events that would be held might be real time, such as "three hikers have been caught high up on the Bomy Moon mountain, and are surrounded by the vicious alien bomys. Organize a small party and free them if you can!" type of thing. I would like that a lot, but I still want an element of role-playing involved which konidias does not seem to be in favor of.

konidias 10-15-2002 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Its kind of odd if you ask me.

Konidias wants to turn Graal 2001 into an adventure server. I'm alright with that, except it's not really an adventure server when you go "omg come play counter strike for 30 gralat, and a free hat!" That would be the same old 2k1 we've seen for a while. I'm leaning towards the possibility that there will probably be a reset and a total overworld revamp.

When I think of anadventure server, I think of some form of role-playing (like you can't go around and be some ghetto thug or something silly like that), you'd have to be a Knight or something, and the events that would be held might be real time, such as "three hikers have been caught high up on the Bomy Moon mountain, and are surrounded by the vicious alien bomys. Organize a small party and free them if you can!" type of thing. I would like that a lot, but I still want an element of role-playing involved which konidias does not seem to be in favor of.

There won't be a "counterstrike". Most of the events are being changed. (for the better) You have to keep an open mind about this, because you can't make assumptions that certain things will change, and certain things will stay the same.

Aftershock, your definition of roleplaying isn't really accurate. Roleplaying doesn't even have to involve "knights and dragons and kingdoms" stuff. What you described is basically "adventure". There could easily be "adventure events" where a GM makes a miniquest for people to try and finish.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 10-15-2002 01:10 AM

Traditional role-playing is in a fantasy atmosphere, but I said that I was perfectly fine with something new. Maybe in the imperialist age or somrthing.

I am keeping an open mind about this, I'm looking forward to the changes, because if I wasn't, I wouldn't give a damn about what was going on with graal 2001.

Frankie_Shakur 10-15-2002 01:31 AM

When you think Role Playing, you usually think Knights and Dragons and quests.

However, role playing could be some thugs robbing a bank.

CheeToS2 10-15-2002 07:09 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Hmm, I got bored, so I made a gani with those new bodies koni posted ^_^
I'm assuming koni means it would be like this, except.. instead of having all the stuff on one file like i did (just as an example of a certain suit) there would be like.. jacket###.png, coat###.png, shoes###.png, head###.png, shield###.png, body###.png, and belt###.png :o

and instead of showing the exact images, itd use #P(#), blah, I hope you get what I mean, and I hope I get what koni means :P
here :o

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 10-15-2002 08:16 AM

Ah..I haven't read this topic in a while. time to post.

1. The bodies look l33333t.
2. it sounds nice, and more fun..but..

A) the hats should stay, just not become something so important. They should be extras, just like they were originally intended to be. We should all have all-hat npc or something. Hats really do add to character, so they should stay. If you had to pay for hats, I'd say not make them cost very much, hats should not be the main thing going on in the market, just one of the many things.

B) KEEP BOMYS.
Googi's gone over this already, though.

C) I don't like ub3r-fast slashing. It feels like it takes less skill, to me. But then, I've never liked it because I suck with it..oh well, I'll never again win a spar contest :(
but that was a selfish reason.

D) KEEP HATS FOR THE WUB OF GOD (I like hat 24 k k)

E) I still say this should be a whole new server..keep the old 2k1..there WILL be those who prefer old 2k1. If just for the fact that it's more like a themepark than a time taking thing.

--Chris-- 10-15-2002 09:57 AM

i think hats should remain the way they are.....i just want my brown cowboy!

Googi 10-15-2002 10:09 AM

Implement a tail accessory }:-)

AlexH 10-15-2002 10:15 AM

Hats should stay yes.
But everyone should be able to get them all or they have to be made and anyone can make any hat they want with the proper materials.
We don't want them limited.
That's what kills the econemy.

Googi 10-15-2002 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlexH
Hats should stay yes.
But everyone should be able to get them all or they have to be made and anyone can make any hat they want with the proper materials.
We don't want them limited.
That's what kills the econemy.

No, the economy was in perfect condition last year (When, like, 131 people would log on for a hat restock), and hats were limited.

Keeping hats limited is GOOD for the economy.

--Chris-- 10-15-2002 11:07 AM

i agree with googi

Jeff 10-15-2002 09:20 PM

I also agree entirely with Googi.


Hats, not gralats, are the centerpiece of the economy.


Remember how post-WWI Germany tried to help its economy by issuing lots of paper money? Remember how a wheelbarrow of marks could barely buy a loaf of bread?



Same principle holds on Graal. Too many hats, hats become worthless.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 10-16-2002 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
I also agree entirely with Googi.


Hats, not gralats, are the centerpiece of the economy.


Remember how post-WWI Germany tried to help its economy by issuing lots of paper money? Remember how a wheelbarrow of marks could barely buy a loaf of bread?



Same principle holds on Graal. Too many hats, hats become worthless.

WEIMAR GERMANY
It was cheaper to burn money for your stove then to buy wood for it

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 10-16-2002 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi


No, the economy was in perfect condition last year (When, like, 131 people would log on for a hat restock), and hats were limited.

Keeping hats limited is GOOD for the economy.

Ok, a limited number of hats, but I hats shouldn't be the main thing in the economy. Also, ALL hats should still stay. The more types of hats, the better, while the MORE hats may not be so.


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